Lowering the 2015 Genesis sedan

[exaccord]

I know this has been discussed in a ton of threads. But, without reading through all the build threads, I wanted a place that we can talk about what springs/coil overs are out there and how they compare.

Im lowering mine in a couple weeks, so Im trying to find the right setup.

Can anyone give a definitive answer on: what's currently on the market, how much they each lower the sedan, how the performance has been for users, etc..?

 

[dxtra196]

Another reason why I'm might move away from the Genesis line ∆∆∆

 

[XPO439]

Check out my thread, I reviewed the Ark Performance springs:

http://genesisowners.com/hyundai-genesis-forum/showthread.php?p=215730#post215730

There's also Storm springs from KDM I think? Ark is a more aggressive drop. There might be some coilover in the works, I believe Megan is testing a set with one of our members.

If you have any further questions, let us know. Not sure what the guy above me meant...the Genesis is a great car, despite having a lack of aftermarket upgrades (as of now).

 

[Huddleston]

Each of your questions could be answered by searching the existing threads.

Your best bet is to look at pictures and read the build threads of members with various suspension parts installed.

current offerings:
-Storm springs
-ARK springs
-Ceika coilovers
-Megan is developing some coilovers - who knows when they will come to market.

 

[ksoze]

Another reason why I'm might move away from the Genesis line ∆∆∆

You may move away from the Genesis line because the OP could not find all info on lowering his car in one place

 

[srobak]

Another reason why I'm might move away from the Genesis line ∆∆∆

This post makes no sense. Care to clarify?

I know this has been discussed in a ton of threads. But, without reading through all the build threads, I wanted a place that we can talk about what springs/coil overs are out there and how they compare.

This and "Huddleston's Build Thread" would be the 2 best ones to read regarding your mission. They both go through a painstaking amount of detail, research and documentation. Though I will never lower mine - they are both excellent threads.

Check out my thread, I reviewed the Ark Performance springs:

http://genesisowners.com/hyundai-genesis-forum/showthread.php?p=215730#post215730

 

[Huddleston]

Another reason why I'm might move away from the Genesis line ∆∆∆

you should have known the aftermarket offerings before purchasing the car - if not its simply your fault for not doing your due diligence. It's quite foolish to list the lack of aftermarket support as a reason for you selling a car you recently purchased. Its not as if a week after you purchased the car the aftermarket offerings vanished.

 

[dxtra196]

So post makes no sense. Care to clarify?

I know this has been discussed in a ton of threads. But, without reading through all the build threads, I wanted a place that we can talk about what springs/coil overs are out there and how they compare.

This and "Huddleston's Build Thread" would be the 2 best ones to read regarding your mission. They both go through a painstaking amount of detail, research and documentation. Though I will never lower mine - they are both excellent threads.

Maybe I wasn't clear enough. I hate to spend this amount of money on a car that to my understanding suppose to be a luxury car and see people do things like that to this beautiful car. The brand looses value. The same way I've seen Genesis here in the city as taxi. It looks tacky and one of the reason why I dislike Hondas. Just my 2 cent

 

[srobak]

The brand looses value. The same way I've seen Genesis here in the city as taxi. It looks tacky and one of the reason why I dislike Hondas. Just my 2 cent

That's more ridiculous than the first post. A brand doesn't lose value based upon what people do to one (or more) models of vehicles from the brand an individual model is from once they buy it.

You know that in Europe they use Mercs as cabs? Right?

Due to the limiting amount of after market mods that are available for the car - there are not that many people doing the mods to the G2 anyhow. For the most part - those that have done it also have done so quite tastefully.

Lastly - what OTHER people do with THEIR cars should have absolutely zero influence on what car YOU buy for YOURSELF. There is no assimilation at all.

 

[Huddleston]

So post makes no sense. Care to clarify?

I know this has been discussed in a ton of threads. But, without reading through all the build threads, I wanted a place that we can talk about what springs/coil overs are out there and how they compare.



Maybe I wasn't clear enough. I hate to spend this amount of money on a car that to my understanding suppose to be a luxury car and see people do things like that to this beautiful car. The brand looses value. The same way I've seen Genesis here in the city as taxi. It looks tacky and one of the reason why I dislike Hondas. Just my 2 cent

I suppose you should just commission someone to build a bespoke vehicle just for you if you don't want to own something that other people modify.

Also, please enlighten me on how people modifying their cars causes them to decrease in value. I would absolutely love to hear this.

You dislike Honda's because people buy them and modify them? By that logic you'd have to dislike nearly every brand.

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[XPO439]

That's more ridiculous than the first post. A brand doesn't lose value based upon what people do to one (or more) models of vehicles from the brand an individual model is from once they buy it.

You know that in Europe they use Mercs as cabs? Right?

Due to the limiting amount of after market mods that are available for the car - there are not that many people doing the mods to the G2 anyhow. For the most part - those that have done it also have done so quite tastefully.

Lastly - what OTHER people do with THEIR cars should have absolutely zero influence on what car YOU buy for YOURSELF. There is no assimilation at all.

So post makes no sense. Care to clarify?




I suppose you should just commission someone to build a bespoke vehicle just for you if you don't want to own something that other people modify.

Also, please enlighten me on how people modifying their cars causes them to decrease in value. I would absolutely love to hear this.

You dislike Honda's because people buy them and modify them? By that logic you'd have to dislike nearly every brand.

+1,000 to these guys as they hit the nail on the head.

Do you just have a problem with lowered cars? Or just "modified" cars in general?

I'll be honest, I don't like "hellaflush" cars but I respect the owner for taking the approach to distinct their car from the pack. This should in no way shape or form dissuade you from choosing the car you always wanted. Hell, that Liberty Walk GTR is ugly as sh*t, but I still want a GTR nonetheless (no offense to anyone that thinks that GTR is nice).

 

[WHYTE5OH]

I guess people who modify their Lambos and Porsches are diminishing the brands value as well?

 

[dxtra196]

So post makes no sense. Care to clarify?




I suppose you should just commission someone to build a bespoke vehicle just for you if you don't want to own something that other people modify.

Also, please enlighten me on how people modifying their cars causes them to decrease in value. I would absolutely love to hear this.

You dislike Honda's because people buy them and modify them? By that logic you'd have to dislike nearly every brand.

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I'm going to keep this short and simple I m not into the back and forth. Again this is just my opinion obviously you look at things differently. I'm not against simple in good taste modification, but when you start dropping your car to the floor and putting big wing's like back in the 90s it looks tacky and ridiculous. This is not the car for that, buy a coupe or mustang. Again do as you please with your ride is your money. The brand loose perception is all how you see it. Like Hyundai back in the days people thought of them a cheap etc.

 

[srobak]

putting big wing's like back in the 90s it looks tacky and ridiculous.

I wont argue about the wings... they have always looked dumb. However - the G2 already has wings... on the hood, the trunk and on the wheelcaps. Some people think even that is too many and debadge

Long story short - nobody is putting wings on their Gennys.

The brand loose perception is all how you see it. Like Hyundai back in the days people thought of them a cheap etc.

"is all how you see it" is not how you represented the comment in your earlier post. You tried to indicate that the market devalues an entire brand based upon what a few people do with their individual cars of individual modesl of that brand. No matter what brand or model we are talking about here - that is just flatly false.

A HUGE difference of "Hyundai back in the day" and today is that they are no longer thought of as "cheap" in a negative context. A bargain and a value - yes... but not cheap or junk like it was. Hyundai has gone through great lengths to change the perception of their vehicles - and it has nothing to do with aftermarket mods or what people do to their cars. They did it on design, quality and warranty. New car sales have soared over the past decade as a result, as has a much better depreciation rate on the used side.

One thing I can promise you is that no amount of people modding their cars is going to impact that at all. Again - YOUR car... do what YOU want to do it - or whatever YOU don't want to it. Same for everyone else. What you do or don't do with yours will not impact the value of mine by so much as a centavo... nor will it impact the brand rep or the market values. If YOU think YOUR car is worth less because of something that I do with MINE - that is not at all reflective of the market and it's stock goes no farther than within your own head.

Sorry - but you are climbing a tree which does not exist.

 

[Huddleston]

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I'm going to keep this short and simple I m not into the back and forth. Again this is just my opinion obviously you look at things differently. I'm not against simple in good taste modification, but when you start dropping your car to the floor and putting big wing's like back in the 90s it looks tacky and ridiculous. This is not the car for that, buy a coupe or mustang. Again do as you please with your ride is your money. The brand loose perception is all how you see it. Like Hyundai back in the days people thought of them a cheap etc.

So what do you say to someone that has a Hyundai, a Porsche, BMW, and a Shelby GT500 (yes, a lowly mustang) in the garage that are all modified?

Your statement that "this is not the car for that, buy a coupe or a mustang" is so wrought with ignorance is difficult to even know where to begin.

I'd rather discuss cars with someone that modified their car in a way I think is retarded than someone like you who thinks that certain brands or models are somehow above the aftermarket or a need for modification. People with ill founded and completely ignorant opinions about car culture do far more damage to the car community than people that slam their cars or put large wings on them.

 

[dareckibmw]

.... Hell, that Liberty Walk GTR is ugly as sh*t, but I still want a GTR nonetheless (no offense to anyone that thinks that GTR is nice).

Yeah, yeah, looks really bad

DSC_0195 by Darek K., on Flickr

 

[Genentec]

id lower it for sure, but we dont know how it will affect the struts mid to long term.

the struts usually take a beating, and wven with a prooer alignment the tires can still wear out prematurely due to camber caster wear.

its to bad hyundai didnt make them lower to begin with.

 

[Genentec]

bottoming out is also a concern. u wont be able to drive throught rough alley ways without being careful.

 

[XPO439]

Yeah, yeah, looks really bad

DSC_0195 by Darek K., on Flickr

LOL! That one isn't so bad...I was talking about this one:



I'm almost positive this GTR lost all of its performance aspect haha

 

[Jaeger]

I'm not remotely into the whole modding thing and never have been. I take the approach of buying a car that meets my needs stock, and not immediately looking for a 100 different ways to spend money changing the car I just bought.

But clearly others enjoy the process and feel they gain a net benefit from the time and money invested. Since the time and money spent are theirs - not mine - their satisfaction is all that matters.

What I don't understand AT ALL is the claim that individual modifications to specific vehicles somehow hurt the brand overall. I suspect that the reason I don't understand it is because it doesn't make even a little bit of sense.

But even that absurdity looks almost cerebral in comparison to someone saying they are going to sell their car because someone on the internet is modding the same model. Unreal.