Mobile 1 Extended Performance (Oil Preference?)

[TJPark01]

Thanks to advances made in modern lubricants, 10,000 miles between oil changes has proven sufficient**

There is a lot of merit to what you are saying. In fact, Mahle indicates that their average filter will last about 18,500 miles before it needs to be changed.

 

[sandy]

There is a lot of merit to what you are saying. In fact, Mahle indicates that their average filter will last about 18,500 miles before it needs to be changed.

My wife's Acura RDX calls for filter change at every other oil change.

 

[TJPark01]

My wife's Acura RDX calls for filter change at every other oil change.

Does the RDX have a cartridge filter or the more traditional spin-on unit?

 

[wallymn]

Surely you don't think that Hyundai actually thinks that Quaker State is better than other oils. Give me a break.

BTW, Quaker State and Pennzoil are both part of Royal Dutch Shell Group.

sorry dry humor, if you read the owners manual it states "Hyundai recommends QuakerState" with their logo...

I thought I was being funny....

 

[Mark_888]

sorry dry humor, if you read the owners manual it states "Hyundai recommends QuakerState" with their logo...

I thought I was being funny....

I know about the logo in the owners manual. I just wanted to make sure you didn't actually believe that Hyundai thinks QS is better oil than the competition. I guess it is sort of like product placement in movies. I wonder how much Hyundai get paid for that.

 

[TJPark01]

I know about the logo in the owners manual. I just wanted to make sure you didn't actually believe that Hyundai thinks QS is better oil than the competition. I guess it is sort of like product placement in movies. I wonder how much Hyundai get paid for that.

That's a good question. I know on a lot of Bimmers Castrol will be on the oil cap. In some mercedes there will be a sticker near the cap stating that they recommend Mobil 1. It's all pretty comical. Maybe ford has the right idea with Motor Craft. It's like the Austin Powers line: Allow myself to introduce...Myself
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[Richard Ft. Lauderdale]

Since my dealer isn't close by, do you think your average joe mechanic would have this filter or one that would fit? QUOTE]

Twice I have gone to a local car wash/oil change place near by. The first time, ten months or so ago, they told me they had never seen a Genesis so the did not have a fliter. They said they would order them. Six months later I went back and they said they still did not have them but I could get one at an auto supply store a hundred yards away and they would put it in. The store didn't have one either.

Both times I ended up at the dealer where I bought the car and they did the oil and filter change free.

 

[sandy]

Does the RDX have a cartridge filter or the more traditional spin-on unit?

the traditional spin-on.

The service schedule specifies Mobil 1 and there is no specific mileage interval requirement....instead a dashboard display lights up and indicates when the oil should be changed based on the cars's particular driving pattern as measured by engine sensors....calculating temperature, rpm's, etc. My wife's driving pattern is mostly in-town, start-stop short hops. As such, the display has been calling for oil changes at about 4800 miles, which seems right to me based on her punishing usage.

Also interesting that Acura, requiring Mobil 1 synthetic, guarantees the drive train for 6years/70,000 miles while Hyundai, using regular oil, stands up for 100,000/10 years.

 

[TJPark01]

the traditional spin-on.
Also interesting that Acura, requiring Mobil 1 synthetic, guarantees the drive train for 6years/70,000 miles while Hyundai, using regular oil, stands up for 100,000/10 years.

I don't put too much emphasis on the "powertrain" warranty, what does that mean anyway?
Hyundai states:"Engine and Transmission/Transaxle components". Maybe I've been lucky, but I've never owned a car where any of those things broke anywhere near 100k miles. I think the "real" warranty is the bumper to bumper at 5 year 60k, is tremendous.

 

[crhbobby]

The bumper to bumper warranty is a joke. They exclude the navigation and audio from the bumper to bumper...it is only 3 years and 36K miles.

It angers me that all though the buying process I am told the car has a bumper to bumper warranty through 5 years and 60K. Then when it comes to seeing the contract there are what I think are major exclusions. Sorry, I know this thread is about oil changes - but I just want to make sure other owners are aware of the electronics/audio/nav exclusion.

Bob

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[sandy]

I don't put too much emphasis on the "powertrain" warranty, what does that mean anyway?
Hyundai states:"Engine and Transmission/Transaxle components". Maybe I've been lucky, but I've never owned a car where any of those things broke anywhere near 100k miles. I think the "real" warranty is the bumper to bumper at 5 year 60k, is tremendous.

It doesn't mean anything unless it's your power train component that fails. I'm not disputing it's probably rare. My point was the powertrain warranty relates to issues where oil could be a factor, the subject of this thread.

 

[TJPark01]

It doesn't mean anything unless it's your power train component that fails. I'm not disputing it's probably rare. My point was the powertrain warranty relates to issues where oil could be a factor, the subject of this thread.

Right, so warrantying something that's unlikely to fail is probably more of a marketing gimmick, than anything else. Sure, it's nice to have, but unless you're totally clueless (which if you are on this forum to begin with you aren't). i like the fact that you have to manually check the oil on this car. The last couple cars I leased had the computer do it for you, and although it worked out fine, I felt like I was taken out of the process and i didn't like it.

 

[ASHDUMP]

The bumper to bumper warranty is a joke. They exclude the navigation and audio from the bumper to bumper...it is only 3 years and 36K miles.

It angers me that all though the buying process I am told the car has a bumper to bumper warranty through 5 years and 60K. Then when it comes to seeing the contract there are what I think are major exclusions. Sorry, I know this thread is about oil changes - but I just want to make sure other owners are aware of the electronics/audio/nav exclusion.

Bob

Thats news to me. That blows for sure. I hope this warrenty is valid for me because I bought my car from a private party.

 

[sandy]

Right, so warrantying something that's unlikely to fail is probably more of a marketing gimmick, than anything else. Sure, it's nice to have, but unless you're totally clueless (which if you are on this forum to begin with you aren't). i like the fact that you have to manually check the oil on this car. The last couple cars I leased had the computer do it for you, and although it worked out fine, I felt like I was taken out of the process and i didn't like it.

Would you buy a new car without a power train warranty?

 

[ASHDUMP]

Would you buy a new car without a power train warranty?

Or better yet;

Would you not purchase a Power Train Warranty for a $5,000 credit?

....something to think about.

 

[dataguy]

Given that I probably won't keep this particular vehicle for 10y/100k miles and since there's a good chance that a problem will occur in something other than a covered part, sure, I'd take a $5K discount. But then again, I don't think they allot that much for the powertrain component of warranty budget.

It's all about exclusions on the manufacturer's side and cost/benefit analysis by the owners. I know a couple of people who never changed the oil in their cars or did so at 30K intervals.

 

[wallymn]

Or better yet;

Would you not purchase a Power Train Warranty for a $5,000 credit?

....something to think about.

Based on prior cars no

Honda Ody - Tranny replaced (Wife's car) at 27k

Dodge Ram - Tranny replaced (weekend truck) at 13k

 

[dataguy]

Yeah, I'm thinking of the extended warranty coverage on the PT beyond the BtB (i.e. the 40K miles beyond the BtB), not a credit for no powertrain coverage whatsoever.

 

[crhbobby]

Thats news to me. That blows for sure. I hope this warrenty is valid for me because I bought my car from a private party.

The regular warranty will apply. From what I understand, the power train warranty after 60K, 5 years would be void if you bought this car from a private party. You can either get it by buying the car new or by buying it certified used from Hyundai. Or you could buy the Hyundai extended warranty.

Hyundai must not trust our audio/nav equipment if it only offers a 3 year /36K mile warranty on it.

Bob

 

[TJPark01]

Would you buy a new car without a power train warranty?

No.
Would a car with a 10 year 100k PT warranty sway me to buy a car vs. a 5 years 60k PT ? No. All things being equal it's nice to have, but it's more like the cherry on top, than the sundae.