Mobile 1 Extended Performance (Oil Preference?)

[OBCT]

Are you guys strictly using KIA/Hyundai OEM oil filters or are you using other brands? I have a body shop right next door to me so I'd like to purchase my oil and have him install it. I would also like to provide the filter for piece of mind but don't want to buy one from my dealer because it is far away.

Any suggestions? Also, where did you buy your Amsoil?

BJ's Wholesale Club has Mobile 1 for $35 and Shell Synthetic for $25...

Sorry for the slow reply. Been outta town.

Yes, I'm using Kia/Hyundai OEM oil filters. I know that oil filters can make some difference (often slight) in fuel economy, oil wear, etc, but I haven't found anything aftermarket that's worth the difference in cost to me. I trust that the OEM filter will suffice for 5k-7k miles.

I bought a replacement oil filter online somewhere for slightly cheaper than it would cost at the dealer (I threw it into a larger purchase of something else and got free shipping IIRC). I'm sure you could find it available if you look.


As for the Amsoil oil, I bought it online. They also have some dealers across the country... see here.

In purchasing my oil, I also signed up for the 6-month preferred customer trial offer* (add it to your cart and it will automatically apply discounts immediately), which incurs discounts on (almost) every product they carry, including all the oil. They also have a super-handy Product Look-up Guide to determine which products are right for your vehicle.

One way to save some dough on shipping costs is to purchase 12+ quarts of oil at a time (or an approximately equivalent shipping weight to that). I bought just enough oil for each of my vehicles' next oil changes, and some P.I. and an oil filter for the other car (not Genesis), since it's no longer new. The shipping charges were very reasonable, and I came away pleased with the value of the product. Experiment and you'll be surprised to see the shipping costs increase more slowly the more you add (relatively).


In the end, a lot of this boils down to personal preference -- especially for cars as new as our Genesises are. Under regular operating conditions, oil is pretty much oil is pretty much oil these days.

Life doesn't always grant you regular operating conditions.



*If you don't like receiving "propoganda" attempting to sway you to become an independent distributor of Amsoil, then I don't recommend signing up for the 6-month preferred member trial period. They don't force you to do anything, and discounts may be worth it to you (they were/are to me), but the literature they send is significant. It's kind of about a tiered marketing system that they've been using for some time to distribute their product, and your opportunity to get involved... plus catalogs of products and technical information. It's nothing dangerous, but I know some folks aren't comfortable with it. Me? I ignore it.

 

[Mark_888]

the traditional spin-on.

The service schedule specifies Mobil 1 and there is no specific mileage interval requirement....instead a dashboard display lights up and indicates when the oil should be changed based on the cars's particular driving pattern as measured by engine sensors....calculating temperature, rpm's, etc. My wife's driving pattern is mostly in-town, start-stop short hops. As such, the display has been calling for oil changes at about 4800 miles, which seems right to me based on her punishing usage.

Also interesting that Acura, requiring Mobil 1 synthetic, guarantees the drive train for 6years/70,000 miles while Hyundai, using regular oil, stands up for 100,000/10 years.

The Acura RDX requires a synthetic oil because it is has a turbo-charged engine (which runs hotter than a normal engine). I do not believe that the regular Acura engines require a synthetic.

Automatic transmissions are also a part of the drive train warranty, and at least the Genesis has some very reliable transmissions (not sure how reliable Hyundai-made transmissions are).

A 10-year warranty does not necessarily mean that a car is more reliable than another car with only a 5 or 6-year warranty. Hyundai started the 10-year warranty prgram after very serious reliability problems with their cars, and the 10-year warranty was the only way they could sell them in the US market. The reliability of Hyundai's have improved since then, but it did not start out that way.

A warranty cost is a marketing expense (literally) and marketing people can offer any warranty they think is necessary to sell the cars so long as they put aside sufficient reserves to cover the expected costs in future years for providing the warranty.

GM has recently started offering 10-year drive-train warranties, and it is not because GM cars are suddenly more reliable than before, or more reliable than Honda or Toyota.

 

[Mark_888]

Based on prior cars no

Honda Ody - Tranny replaced (Wife's car) at 27k

Dodge Ram - Tranny replaced (weekend truck) at 13k

About 4-5 years ago Honda had serious and wide-spread AT problems (which has reportedly been fixed). So that was not an isolated incident.

I would agree that 10-year warranty on the transmission is more than a "nice to have" although I guess it depends on which transmission one has. I drove a Toyota for 11 years (but only 75K miles) and the AT had no problems whatsoever.