I agree... And we can compare a bit.... Does not justify the chaos, but some micro consolation and a warning not to go from the pan to the fire..
The vaunted Audi problems on the forums are giant and never ending. Same for the Mercedes, BMW, Acura, VW, Porsche, Lexus,
Infiniti,
Lincoln, and
Cadillac. I experience more and diverse chaos problems than here.
If I would get cranked off enough to leave this mark, I certainly would not pay even bigger bucks for those other crappy cars above.
Many of us came from great quality, value priced cars before the Genny. Others, not so much. Those like myself who have had two decades of amazing experience with quality products that did not break (as I experienced) are disappointed.
Some days, makes some of is want to go back to a last gen Accord, last gen Fusion, or Toyota, or
Buick, or Ford/GM half ton pickup, many of us have owned without problems.
For those who are too young to remember... The people overwhelmed with emotion to defy all logic that bought Jaguars, Audi, Cadillacs back in the late 70s through the mid 90s. Absolute junk, all of them.
Alloy engines that failed in 10k miles, paint problems and rust that within 2 years the Audi products had rust falling off the cars over bumps, electrical systems that would leave people stranded, dead, or the cars burned to the ground. Total chaos.
And do not forget the cheap ass design rice burner "timing belt" chaos.
For those of us who get sick of the quality problems, the only choice is to go back to base model quality cars. Base model Fusions (no DIS or AlGore "ecoboost") that has timing chain good for 300k, electronics that work, solid chassis and mechanics, decent to drive.... Same analogy for a
Buick, or basic Mid sized Chevy. And if one wants to out up with the cheapie timing belt engines, any Base model Honda. Toyota, and Nissan should be decent. Buy the "SE" Camry built at the Subaru plant in Indiana.. It has the highest quality ratings of any Toyota. These types of cars, odds on, will provide few hundred thousand miles of cheap driving.
And if you can find a Very low mileage Crown Vic Sport (made through 2012), total reliability. As the Mobile one commercial says, they go 500k miles. Electronics and the rest are very solid. Certainly for up to 150k+.
In the end, we all play Russian roulette with our Genny's. I have a feeing the 2014 and beyond Equus will be at the top of the reliability heap. Have nothing to justify that, except driving a Ultimate for 3 days. The dealer let me do this by "slow play" the oil change in the Genny. Tempting me to buy. And tempt they did. Otherwise, back to. Crown Vic, (what I provide for my daughters.. Cheap insurance, safe, never breaks), new semi base Fusion, or a US made Subaru (stupid timing belts though).
Ok, having fun here. Nothing serious. Trying to get a chuckle out of those of us in misery now.
to the forums !!
