Oil Consumption in '12 R-Spec

[Mark_888]

I have 2012 Hyundai Genesis R-Spec that I really love. Bought the car brand new with 12 miles on it. At about 5K miles I checked oil and it was low about 1 quart. I took it in to the dealer at 7K miles for first oil change and explained it had been low. I thought maybe it was low when I originally purchased. They made sure before I left that it was exactly at the fill line. 1K miles later I was low a quart again and took it back and started the oil consumption test. They marked the dipstick and said come back in 1K miles exactly. Came back and it was only a hair low and they noted and topped off. I then ran another 1K and came back, it was now 1.2 quarts low. They contacted Hyundai and they said to have the oil changed at the dealership and run 10W-30 instead of 5W-30 for the next 1K. Did that today! Dealer has been great and so far Hyundai is being very cooperative. Dealer told me I have a serious engine problem and would not be surprised if Hyundai replaced the engine, but we have to go through all the documenting. I hope Hyundai backs up their product. Like I said the car is awesome and I love it, but cars should not burn oil. Oil is not a consumable. I don't care who says it is ok to burn a quart here or there, they should not burn any oil, especially new model cars.

Based on what others in this thread have reported, it is quite common for the 5.0 to "use" a significant amount of oil (at least for a modern engine), and I doubt seriously that Hyundai will replace your engine. They will just say "it is normal."

 

[Philth]

If anybody who is experiencing oil consumption can send in a sample of their oil for analysis, that would be great. It may indicate the issue, if any, that is going on inside.

 

[Genny4me]

Based on what others in this thread have reported, it is quite common for the 5.0 to "use" a significant amount of oil (at least for a modern engine), and I doubt seriously that Hyundai will replace your engine. They will just say "it is normal."

One of my service rep's is familiar with this issue. He has spoken to one of the engineers from Hyundai, and as you said according to them this falls under the "normal" range. They told me to bring it in when it's gets low and they would document it as well as top it off.

I will share with them the suggestion of using a heavier oil.

 

[427435]

There is little viscosity difference (if any) between 5w-30 and 10w-30 oil at operating temps.

 

[Crusty Old Shellback]

I mentioned to my service provider at the dealer about the oil consumption when I took my R Spec in for a oil change and he too said to bring it back after 1K miles so they could check and document it. We'll see what happens.

 

[Philth]

One of my service rep's is familiar with this issue. He has spoken to one of the engineers from Hyundai, and as you said according to them this falls under the "normal" range. They told me to bring it in when it's gets low and they would document it as well as top it off.

I will share with them the suggestion of using a heavier oil.

"Normal" range, to them is no more than 1 quart in 1K miles. This is absurb, though it generally the accepted practice across the industry.

 

[DRS]

4k on Kendall Best Synthetic... 6.8k miles total on car. Oil level identical as when put in. No PCV or other oil loss to date. Fingers crossed. TAU 5.0.

Still will put in catch can here soon.

 

[bkleebauer]

4k on Kendall Best Synthetic... 6.8k miles total on car. Oil level identical as when put in. No PCV or other oil loss to date. Fingers crossed. TAU 5.0.

Still will put in catch can here soon.

I had the same problem, but after reading this forum, and taking in the information supplied by all of you, I came to realize one thing, and I 100% agree with this poster.

Since I bought my Genesis R-Spec Sedan in Oct 2011, and I bought it from a dealer in Bel Air Md called Jones Hyundai, and they offer FREE Oil changes for the life of your car. When I took it for oil changes, they would put standard 5w-20 oil in it, or use a synthetic blend. My Genny ate that oil like it was candy. Since I switched to Full Synthetic 5w-30, it hasn't used a drop. What Hyundai needs to do is put out a bulletin that requires at minimum, 5w-30 Full Synthetic motor oil. 20 weight motor oil is just way too thin to use, especially in warm/hot weather.

My 2 cents worth.

 

[DRS]

I had the same problem, but after reading this forum, and taking in the information supplied by all of you, I came to realize one thing, and I 100% agree with this poster.

Since I bought my Genesis R-Spec Sedan in Oct 2011, and I bought it from a dealer in Bel Air Md called Jones Hyundai, and they offer FREE Oil changes for the life of your car. When I took it for oil changes, they would put standard 5w-20 oil in it, or use a synthetic blend. My Genny ate that oil like it was candy. Since I switched to Full Synthetic 5w-30, it hasn't used a drop. What Hyundai needs to do is put out a bulletin that requires at minimum, 5w-30 Full Synthetic motor oil. 20 weight motor oil is just way too thin to use, especially in warm/hot weather.

My 2 cents worth.

I agree with your .02. And I still use the 5-20 per the factory recommendation. But only the Kendall Full Synthetic, Pennzoil Ultimate (if you can find it), or M1 Extended. May go to 5-30 in July or Aug?

For those already with oil consumption and Hyundai will do nothing... Try the Kendall. If no better, I have a suggestion. Tufoil. Check it out. Used it in every vehicle for over 20 years. Including direct injected turbo truck diesels. I have not used it in the 5.0 at this time. Amazon and other places have tons of testimonials. The mileage, zero oil consumption for hundred of thousands of miles, the reduced friction and amazing cold weather starts.

http://www.tufoil.com/

There is some talk about using 5-30w because of the DI system which relies on oil to power. That the engine has to have specific weight oil or it messes up. I do not believe that regarding the flow stats for Level 3 or 4 Synthetic. I think you are making a good choice.

Also, Tufoil never bothered DI diesel trucks. Always added its benefits and no downside.

 

[427435]

I have mentioned this before, but 5w-30 oil is also a factory approved oil for the 5.0.

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[427435]

I hadn't heard of Tufoil before. I checked the site. Just another scam advertising the use of PTSE (Teflon).


http://www.1expired.com/ptfe-car-protection.html


By the way, I have driven a lot of cars to 175,000 to 230,000 miles without any oil additives and without any engine problems.

 

[homeofstone]

I hadn't heard of Tufoil before. I checked the site. Just another scam advertising the use of PTSE (Teflon).


http://www.1expired.com/ptfe-car-protection.html


By the way, I have driven a lot of cars to 175,000 to 230,000 miles without any oil additives and without any engine problems.

+1 and
+1 on driving cars 230k

 

[Mark_888]

I hadn't heard of Tufoil before. I checked the site. Just another scam advertising the use of PTSE (Teflon).


http://www.1expired.com/ptfe-car-protection.html


By the way, I have driven a lot of cars to 175,000 to 230,000 miles without any oil additives and without any engine problems.

Not to mention that if Hyundai found out about it during warranty claim, they would void the warranty.

 

[DRS]

I hadn't heard of Tufoil before. I checked the site. Just another scam advertising the use of PTSE (Teflon).


http://www.1expired.com/ptfe-car-protection.html


By the way, I have driven a lot of cars to 175,000 to 230,000 miles without any oil additives and without any engine problems.

Wrong. Here is the web site of the company that makes the product.

http://www.fluoramics.com/

No scam... Ignorance is bliss.

 

[DRS]

Not to mention that if Hyundai found out about it during warranty claim, they would void the warranty.

Wrong. They would have to prove that this product directly damaged any part.

 

[DRS]

It is amazing. Some people zero in on only one part of a post (in this case my post) to flex their chest out in an attempt to look good. Geez...

 

[DRS]

I have mentioned this before, but 5w-30 oil is also a factory approved oil for the 5.0.

Yea, saw that. Thanks. The dealer is insistent on saying 5-20. Which appears to be wrong on their part.

 

[Mark_888]

Wrong. They would have to prove that this product directly damaged any part.

If there is internal damage to the engine where engine oil/additives could have caused the problem, and you used oil/fluids out of spec, they don't have to prove that. But if something goes wrong with the engine that is not affected by the oil/fluids, then you would be OK.

Keep in mind that I change my own oil and have no fears doing so, but if you put something in your engine that manufacturer tells you not to, then you are asking for trouble if you anticipate a warranty claim. Of course they would have to find out about it. But if you engine failed they might do an oil analysis.

 

[Mark_888]

Yea, saw that. Thanks. The dealer is insistent on saying 5-20. Which appears to be wrong on their part.

According the owners manual, any Genesis sedan can use 5W-30 if the ambient weather conditions are appropriate. My dealer uses 5W-30 for my 2009 Genesis V6 (the one time I let them do an oil change).

 

[427435]

Wrong. Here is the web site of the company that makes the product.

http://www.fluoramics.com/

No scam... Ignorance is bliss.

Spotting a scam:

Hint 1.........it claims increased mpg.

Anything that would actually help mpg would be quickly adopted and used by the car manufacturers to help with their CAFE tests (why do you think 5w-20 oil is so often "recommended").

Hint 2..............it uses Teflon (PTFE) in motor oil.

The originator of PTFE (Dupont) said, years ago, that Teflon was not a good thing to use in motor oils as a result of Slick 50's advertising claims.


As far as ignorance goes, I've been a member of SAE for almost 50 years, and spent many years doing engineering work with engines.