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Will Genesis ever get it’s own brick and motor?

So, on this subject: I was on the launch team for the Infiniti in the late 80s, which gives me a unique vantage point, having spent over a year designing a customer experience, based on volumes of marketing research,

First, the luxury car segment (MB, BMW, Porsche, etc) customers are not the same as the segment buying and servicing econo-boxes. They will not plunk down wads of cash on the worlds best car, if it is serviced out of the standard building. That was the lesson of Acura: Honda customers willing to step up in price, wanted a higher level experience than what they experienced at the Honda deal. Hence, Lexus and Infiniti are all in stand-alone buildings. It was a dealer requirement. Yes, dealers are independent owner-operators, but franchise agreements can stipulate location and facilities. And, have an exit clause to punch a dealer's ticket should they choose to not abide by the rules.

2nd: starting a new marque is an expensive proposition, especially if there isn't enough service or parts (highest dealer margin) business. Factory's sign up dealers willing to make the long-term commitment to the brand. An MB dealer is not going to stick a Toyota or other commuter car dealership under the MB (or BMW, or Porsche) roof. It would cheapen the cache of the MB brand and lose customers. The offset is used cars, also highly profitable. Yes, the SUV is important a line extension. But, remember, Lexus, Acura and Infiniti brands all started with two models. Acura has lost their way in product design but Lexus is kicking ass, taking no prisoners and customers from MB, Cadillac and all of the other non-upper tier segment (Lambo, Ferrari, etc).

Unless dealers do create (and are required to create) a separate stand-alone building staffed with luxury car personnel, Genesis will be a very nice Hyundai.

Case in point: my deal originally had $2K of garbage stacked on the sticker. That would NEVER happen in a highline luxury dealership, Also, the free car wash after service is ALWAYS brushless, as well as a service area where you are greeted by someone opening your door, someone jumping in with paper foot mats, someone else taking the car off while the service advisor writes up the service and then points you to your loaner. Or, you sit in the modern sitting area by the fire watching TV, drinking coffee, soft drinks or water without kids running around, babies screaming, or sitting in chairs rescued from the local unemployment office.

I like my car, has a lot of technology rival to BMW, but it doesn;t have the same chunk of German manufacture. And I won;t have my first proper dealer experience until March 2020, for my first service appointment.
It’s very simple. You saved a lot of money buying a G70. If you chose your dealer wisely, toured the shop and chatted with the service manager and other savvy customers, you will likely have a good experience. If you didn’t do your homework, take some blame.

By the way, there’s nothing wrong with a very good Hyundai. Last I looked, Lexus and Infinity don’t exist in Japan. The models are called Toyota/Nissan here. Back in the day I owned two 280Z 2+2 cars. They were serviced by....wait for it...Nissan!

Here’s a quick tip. Sometimes when I’m getting my Genesis serviced I stroll across the highway to have coffee at the Lexus dealer. Nice pastries too. Then maybe a Lexus test drive before I pick up my Genesis, or Santa Fe.
 
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It’s very simple. You saved a lot of money buying a G70. If you chose your dealer wisely, toured the shop and chatted with the service manager and other savvy customers, you will likely have a good experience. If you didn’t do your homework, take some blame.

By the way, there’s nothing wrong with a very good Hyundai. Last I looked, Lexus and Infinity don’t exist in Japan. The models are called Toyotas there. Back in the day I owned two 280Z 2+2 cars. They were serviced by....wait for it...Nissan!

Here’s a quick tip. Sometimes when I’m getting my Genesis serviced I stroll across the highway to have coffee at the Lexus dealer. Nice pastries too. Then maybe a Lexus test drive before I pick up my Genesis, or Santa Fe.

I hope you don't get mowed down crossing the highway for a free cup of coffee and an doughnut!
 
I hope you don't get mowed down crossing the highway for a free cup of coffee and an doughnut!
You’re too kind. 👀
 
I live in Minnesota and our Hyundai dealership is turning into a Hyundai AND Genesis dealership. I have had nothing but great customer service from them, but I have read some horror stories on here from other dealerships. I guess I just got lucky and became a customer of one of the best Hyundai dealerships around.
Which Hyundai dealer in MN are you referring to?
 
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