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Will you buy the new 2015 or wait??

The "trick" for Hyundai and the Genesis is to provide a really good car at a really good price point. While the latest doo-dad is nice, there are other things that come first. They include ride, handling, interior comfort, reliability, and a price point well under a comparable Mercedes/BMW. And don't forget about the "little lady" in the passenger seat.

The biggest tech improvement that I would actually use in my 2013 Genny is the HUD. And a good passenger seat comes before that. I would gladly give up the LDWS for those two things!!!
Absolutely, the most important aspect of being in a car is to be comfortable, and have an ergonomic cabin for the driver to operate in. Also most folks want to have reliability with performance (if performance is important to you), as well as being priced lower than the competition.

If you are not comfortable in the car, the other components are essentially useless. Comfort is paramount. If comfortable, then you can enjoy the other features of the car, and enjoy the performance if that is important to you. I have a great car (2013 Genesis Rspec) in my garage, but I am not comfortable in the car, therefore it is a very nice car, but it is just that, a means of transportation. Give me a car where I can get securely comfortable in it, and it then becomes a sanctuary for me to enjoy the car no matter what i use it for.

This is why I am waiting on the 2015 Genesis with the new much needed redesigned lower profile (lower H point) seat with power adjustable side bolsters. I sure hope the new seat is up to the competition. Regards, Dan
 
I agree with you on the k900...really looking forward to seeing/driving it and anticipate some great introductory lease deals because I think it will take some time, if ever, for this car to succeed...how much demand is there for a non status, status car that is not already being filled by the Geneisi and Equus?

Recently saw a list of the slowest selling vehicles in the US and the Cadenza was one of them...so it appears buyers are slow to accept upscale offerings from Kia, at least at this time.

One of the things that attracted me originally to the Genesis/Equus was the fun of having a car few people recognized which should also be the case with the K900.

Of course, hard to draw any conclusions until we actually see them in person.
I'm very interested in the K900 myself (if it has the 5.0L and power side bolsters), but isn't the K900 going to be priced higher than the 2015 Genesis 5.0L? I agree that the Credenza does look very nice. Also, thanks for the advice regarding potential new car leasing promotions. Regards
 
The 2015 is literally 0.2 inches longer than our cars.

I think the change is in the wheelbase. Its 3 inches longer than the current Genesis. The overall length is much the same. This should give it a more luxurious ride, plus the improved suspension. I dont mind the size as I do prefer larger cars. Its just the lack of 'refined' finishes on the the outside. Inside looks good. I have few complaints there. The outside is just plain. That rearend just looks unfinished. There needs to be more trim on it. IMO :rolleyes:
 
Will wait a year for them to work out the bugs then YES I will be getting one. :D
 
I also will wait and see......I like the styling of the current Genny. I do not like the license plate stuck in the middle of the grill. I also think it looks like this years Chrysler 200 from the front. Back end not very impressive.
 
I am going all in on the 2015 Genesis. I don't like to buy first year model makes but then l pulled the plug on my 2002 Honda Civic SI 12 years ago and it is still running strong at 140k+ miles.

I like all the new bells & whistles coming with this MY. My car doesn't have any. I have to use a FM transmitter to hook my cell phone to play music through the stereo.

When we picked up my wife's new car in 2012, we test drove a Genesis and fell in love with the car. We couldn't work out the deal but that car has stuck in my head ever since.

This car has to be even better than that model year 2012 we test drove. I must admit since joining this forum I have read a lot of bad things you all are having with your Gennys.

When I heard that Hyundai spent 4 years developing this new version and talking to the consumer during the process on improvements we the consumer want, that sold me.

I will be getting one and because of this forum, I will buy some protection with the extended warranty. On another note, I am looking forward to the seeing the new commercial during the Superbowl. I am hoping they have a RSPEC under wraps :D
 
I am going all in on the 2015 Genesis. I don't like to buy first year model makes but then l pulled the plug on my 2002 Honda Civic SI 12 years ago and it is still running strong at 140k+ miles.

I like all the new bells & whistles coming with this MY. My car doesn't have any. I have to use a FM transmitter to hook my cell phone to play music through the stereo.

When we picked up my wife's new car in 2012, we test drove a Genesis and fell in love with the car. We couldn't work out the deal but that car has stuck in my head ever since.

This car has to be even better than that model year 2012 we test drove. I must admit since joining this forum I have read a lot of bad things you all are having with your Gennys.

When I heard that Hyundai spent 4 years developing this new version and talking to the consumer during the process on improvements we the consumer want, that sold me.

I will be getting one and because of this forum, I will buy some protection with the extended warranty. On another note, I am looking forward to the seeing the new commercial during the Superbowl. I am hoping they have a RSPEC under wraps :D
Most people come to forums because they have problems that they need information on... Once they get their problem fixed they tend to stick around and contribute. I wouldn't worry about first generation Hyundai cars. I only say that based off my experience and their warranty.
 
by the time i'm ready to sell my 2013 gen, i'll be looking at third generation models (2020?) so i'll likely be skipping this new design run altogether; not because of dislike rather i just dont replace my car all that often.

+1 :)
 
I am going to wait and see it in person - pictures rarely do justice to many cars and it is only a few weeks until the major auto shows. I am also tempted by the fire sale prices on the outgoing model, but do not see making a decision before at least seeing one in the flesh (or metal).

Bingo!
 
What features are late to the party or need to be matched?

The tech features appear current state of the art and ahead of the target vehicles - BMW for sure. The new suspension should come closer to a true road car and the interior looks more in the league of $50K+ cars. It may not be a home run, but on paper, it is not lacking and if the value component holds, it will do well.

Think Tank Genesis Media Launch
Being invited to attend the New 2015 Genesis Media Launch in Scottsdale, Arizona as a guest of Hyundai was an unexpected pleasure for me. As the owner of two Genesis, so far, the chance to be amongst the first to experience the all new 2015 Genesis was a welcome treat. I arrived at the Sanctuary Resort on Friday afternoon and was treated to a late lunch and then dinner with the Camelback Mountain in Scottsdale as our backdrop. It’s a beautiful place and it was a late evening of food and drinks with the journalists who were invited. Then it was off to bed with an 8 AM start of Saturday morning.

A little bleary eyed and ready for my first time behind the wheel of the Next Genesis I went for a nice breakfast and orientation on our event. After an hour presentation by Brandon Ramirez the Senior Group Manager for Product Planning we were asked to partner up with a drive buddy and were ushered to the cars. They sat in a gleaming row in every available color and configuration for us to select from. We chose a Parisian Gray 3.8 liter V6 with rear wheel drive with all the available options and sticker priced at $49,950.00

When I order mine, this will be exactly the same as the one I buy. After a few moments becoming familiar with the features of the car it was time to hit the road. We were given a pre-determined course that was more than 200 miles of just about every type of driving experience you will encounter and it was off to our first stop and lunch at Roosevelt Lake northeast of the Phoenix area.

The first part of the drive was freeway and the first thing that struck me was the silence we heard. At 75 MPH there was barely a whisper of road and wind noise allowing for serene, easy conversation. The new seating in the Genesis offers more support than the previous version with what seems to be a double layer of padding, the first layer being very soft but supported by a more firm structure that never tires you even after the full day of 200 miles plus. It was superior even to the seating in my wifes Audi or frankly any other car I’ve owned or ridden in. There are power side bolsters that you can adjust to your liking as well as a power extension for the drivers seat. Since I have long legs this was a nice added feature. If you can’t get comfortable in this car, you can’t get comfortable in any out there.

The initial impression of the handling is confidence inspiring. While the car rides a touch more softly than the German competition it is a nice balance of control versus comfort and goes right where you point it. During this stretch on the freeway is where I got my first chance to try the new Lane Keep Assist feature that will vibrate the steering wheel and self correct your direction to keep you in your lane if you start to wander. It’s an odd sensation to know that you can’t accidentally leave your lane. The feature doesn’t alert you if the turn signal is engaged before you veer off. While I was alert throughout the day I can certainly see where this could be useful when fatigue sets in. This car is so easy to drive and to sit in that it will take a lot more than 200 miles to make that happen.

A really nice feature of the new Genesis is the heads up display. Its great to have the most important information you need staring right back at you through the windshield telling you what the speed limit is, what speed you’re traveling and displaying your navigation directions in color. The Genesis also offers full automatic braking in case your attention is diverted and you are approaching another vehicle or barrier and not taking action to avert a collision on your own. At speeds up to 40 MPH the car will come to a full stop. At higher speeds it will offer brake assist. Frankly I didn’t have the nerve to give it a test.

I did however have the opportunity to try out the new warning of traffic approaching out of the view of your peripheral vision if you are parked between two vehicles where your vision is obscured. This should eliminate those pesky parking lot fender benders that are a costly nuisance. You also have blind spot warnings when you’re changing lanes if a vehicle is in your blind spot or approaching at a rate of speed that might cause a collision. The car darned near seems to drive itself. Fortunately you still get to be in control though because it’s a definite pleasure to motor down the road in the new Genesis.

After the freeway drive we started through the winding roads, ascending and descending some gradual and some steep hills and got a feeling of the handling at high speed on mountain roads. The car never lost it’s composure even when you looked down and surprisingly found yourself going 90 MPH when you felt like you were still within the legal limits. The quiet continued to surprise us even when it got windy. Road noise was almost completely absent at every speed. I always said that my current Genesis could use a bit more isolation from the road and Hyundai has done a masterful job of isolating you from the road and still providing the feedback that you want to pilot your vehicle through tight spots when traffic gets busy.

If I had my choice I might still prefer a touch more twitchiness to the steering, but I would be afraid of messing up that superb balance this generation of the car offers. For all but the hardcore enthusiasts, this Genesis will meet the expectations of any luxury car driver.
After lunch we switched cars and finished up the journey in a 5.0 liter V8 and while it offered a more powerful drive I agreed with all of the attending journalists I spoke with that the 3.8 Liter engine is all you ever really need. I never felt like the 3.8 liter was lacking in power or pulling on the mountain roads and the price and mileage penalty makes it something I would never select.

We passed through a myriad of small towns that seemed lost in time and stopped for some beef jerky at a small stand as we passed through one of them. Quietly passed through one town that looked like it had been all but abandoned and felt out of place in the luxury we found ourselves in the cabin of the Genesis. On one of the stops we had the chance to try out the new Smart Trunk. With key in hand all you need to do is stand about three feet from the rear bumper for three seconds and the trunk magically opens without the need to do a balancing act waving your foot around like a ballet dancer. Very cool indeed.

It was interesting interfacing with the journalists that shared the experience with me and getting their impressions and talking about the other events and vehicles they’ve been exposed to. Everyone has varying opinions of what type of car they like to drive, some sporty, some SUV drivers and some enjoy daily drivers like the Genesis. All of those I spoke with though were favorably impressed and we talked about how the guys at Car and Driver or Road and Track might look at the car differently than we might. But for about 98% of drivers we “all” agreed that this is all the car you would ever need with every possible feature, handling better than most, whisper quiet and a confidence inspiring supple ride with a world class passenger compartment.

Hyundai went out of their way to make sure that everyone was kept abreast of every facet of the event and I learned that the people who work there really do care about competing with the best of the best and satisfying their customers to a degree that was refreshing. I really enjoyed the driving route laid out for us because of the interesting scenery and the contrast from big city Phoenix to small towns along Apache Trail to the Tonto National Forest. I also appreciated the camaraderie of the journalists who all welcomed me into their circle. While I envy that they get to drive a lot of different vehicles, for me, it was enough to drive what will be my next new car, the 2015 Genesis. Thank you Hyundai. It was fabulous!
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I'm a Hyundai Think Tank member who was recently invited to attend the Media Launch of the New 2015 Genesis. I own a 2013 and had a 2011 prior to that. All I can say is WOW! Driving the 2015 is a whole new beast from the 2013. Everything about the 2015 is more refined, more premium and superior to my 2013. If you want a bargain basement price on a 2013 come get mine because I'm making the move to the new one NOW! Hyundai has finally joined the big leagues with this effort. The Lotus input on the handling, the improved NVH, the amazing interior...all of it adds up to a damned fine car. Even the base unit comes standard with an 8" navigation system and the rest of the car will run with anything the Germans can throw at them. I drove in the car for 200 miles without a hint of fatigue. What a car.


 
The old one and actually it is the Equus platform which is just a stretched genesis. The clue is the 119" wheelbase identical on Equus and K900

I wonder if the KIA K900 is based on the old Genny platform or the new one?
 
It looks longer because of the stretched wheelbase and shorter overhangs. After 200+ miles of driving all I can tell you is my 2013 Genesis is a class or two below the new model. I loved my 2011 and still love my 2013 but this 2015 is a whole new animal.

The 2015 is literally 0.2 inches longer than our cars.
 
Thank You Bill for your detailed report. Did you have a chance to try out the electronics. How does the 17 speaker stereo system sound compared to your 2013 Genesis.

What about the Infotainment system? How is the Nav screen?
 
It looks longer because of the stretched wheelbase and shorter overhangs. After 200+ miles of driving all I can tell you is my 2013 Genesis is a class or two below the new model. I loved my 2011 and still love my 2013 but this 2015 is a whole new animal.

Bill, you are starting to sound like a paid commercial. I guess many of us will have to learn to live with our lower class status. I'm not about to give up a great car that's paid for and with under 20,000 miles on the clock. Okay, one of my wheels has some curb rash....
 
Bill, you are starting to sound like a paid commercial. I guess many of us will have to learn to live with our lower class status. I'm not about to give up a great car that's paid for and with under 20,000 miles on the clock. Okay, one of my wheels has some curb rash....

Unless you're just kidding around, it appears to me you're taking his post very personally. He's only talking about an automobile. He feels the 2015 automobile is a class or two above the 2013 automobile that he currently owns. Nobody needs to learn to live with a lower class status.

:grouphug:
 
The way I read it. It seems just the opposite, PMCErnie had a good sense of humor and I echoed his comment.
And thanks Bill for his review too. Let's hope Hyundai didn't make any more promises or deal with him after the test drive.:)
 
The way I read it. It seems just the opposite, PMCErnie had a good sense of humor and I echoed his comment.

Music to my eyes... :)
 
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Let's remember that this is a site for Genesis enthusiasts of all varieties, not a sales arm of Hyundai. We all appreciate first-hand reports like Bill's fine write-ups, although we didn't read much about any of the '15's shortcomings. Bill, there must have been a few negatives that you observed, or wondered about. For example, did you ask anybody if Hyundai will be handling any '15 radio/Nav unit problems professionally vs their past track record?

We all have different perspectives too about how to enjoy our Genesis addictions. We have a lot of members here who are thrilled to own a used Genesis. I'm happy for anybody like Bill who can afford a new car every two years. However, I take great comfort in the fact that I'm not taking a financial bath to do likewise.
 
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I still remain confused. After I read these reviews of the 2015, I think it might be pretty sweet to own one and think about a test drive. Then, like yesterday, I walk away from my clean and shiny black R-Spec in a parking lot, look at all the other cars nearby (many high-end cars), and say to myself, I'm going to keep it to 99,999 bumper-to-bumper miles.

Which means, I'll avoid the test drive of the 2015 because I know I'll just buy one.
:)
 
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