Would you buy it again?

[Gdog]

For the record.....you guys rock IMO from a forum pov.....thanks so much for your thoughts and inputs....the Don Julio 70 is on me....woot!!!
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[peterbhere]

Sure, I'd buy another one. Very happy with the car so far and you sure do get a lot of bang for the buck. I'm gonna wait for the all wheel drive version to be out for a year or two and then pick up a slightly used one.

 

[EXBMWGUY]

My car and service experience have been outstanding. I would own an Italian car if Warren Buffet put me in his will, another S8 if I enjoyed riding in a flat-bed tow truck, or an M5 if the warranty was 100K bumper to bumper.

 

[T I T A N I U M]

I looked at several cars, import and domestic, before purchasing my 2012 3.8. My only quibble is with myself, for not getting the R-Spec.

Of course there are minor issues/annoyances, but every car has SOME features that are bothersome. After doing exhaustive research online, I have concluded that there is no perfect car.

If I were buying domestic, I would get a Cadillac (fully loaded ATS for compact, CTS/CTS-V if I wanted something larger). If buying another import, I would purchase another Genesis, unless I were to inherit an additional $30k or something. At that point I might start looking at something like an Audi S6.

 

[Waki]

As the very satisfied owner of a 2009, ( bought back by Hyundai) and now a superb 2012, I plan on a 2016 UNLESS they price themselves out of the market.

 

[dfd5280]

Not as reliable as they used to be. And they rattle like tin cans filled with marbles. My Genesis has been solid however.

Squeaks and rattles are an absolute deal breaker for me. Planning on buying a new car in 2015. I have a feeling I will consider everything in and above the Genesis price range like I did last time and I bet the Genesis will win out again on value and because of that V8.

I am hoping the new ones will not be bigger in exterior dimensions. As it is right now the car is a little long for me.

 

[dg_moore]

In a New York minute. But I'm thinking this will be my last car: I'm hoping it lasts as long as i do.

 

[nextcar]

if i were in the market right now, i would probably choose the new Audi A6 with the 3.0 V6.
more money, but i think it's worth it for the better styling, and stronger, smoother supercharged V6.

however, when i bought my genny almost 2 years ago, the current generation A6 did not exist.

 

[BrazGenesis]

Definitely YES.
I think I am going to purchase my car at the end of the lease.

 

[Gdog]

if i were in the market right now, i would probably choose the new Audi A6 with the 3.0 V6.
more money, but i think it's worth it for the better styling, and stronger, smoother supercharged V6.

however, when i bought my genny almost 2 years ago, the current generation A6 did not exist.

Love the A5 / A6..... but we are talking apples and oranges
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[Mark_888]

Before the issue with the brake failure (apparently caused by the ABS Brake Module) starting being prevalent among 2009-2010 owners, I would have said yes I will buy again. But now I will say that I will not buy again, because of HMA's pathetic response to the brake failure problem. That applies to any Hyundai vehicle. If anyone asks me about Hyundai, I would feel really guilty not explaining the situation concerning the rampant occurrences of brake failure. Hopefully Hyundai will quickly do something proactive to address this problem and restore my confidence in the brand.

 

[Kaiserseal]

I was cross shopping the Avalon, Camray, Accord and Legacy. My car new was under 28K, the other cars were between 22 and 29K I would pick the Genesis over them still. The 333 hp V6 is suprising satisfying, and so far no mechanical problems. I don't think it realistic to compare this to a car that cost 20K more, so I am answering your question, if I was in the market for a car in the same price range I would buy this one. Since I miss my little convertable, I may go that route next time, hopefully Hyundai will have something to offer when I am ready for that.

 

[Bobcaat]

Consumer reports lists the 2013 Genesis in second place in the luxury mid-size category; one point behind the Audi A6 (93 pts) tied with the Infiniti M Sedan (93 pts) and Genesis (92 pts); but $16K to $20K less in price.

I believe Hyundai already issued a TSB on the brake issue. Yes, I would buy again.

 

[Mark_888]

I believe Hyundai already issued a TSB on the brake issue.

Yes they have issued a TSB. However, Hyundai doesn't notify owners and only applies the fix if the car is brought to the dealer for some other reason (unless owner finds out about the TSB some other way and brings it in for that fix). When I checked the website that has the TSB's for my VIN, I discovered another TSB for the SRS airbag system that needs to be applied and for which I was not notified. I would consider TSB's for critical safety functions like the airbag and brakes to be important enough that HMA should notify owners to bring their cars in ASAP.

Also, since the problem has been tracked to ABS Brake Module, it is unclear to me how simply upgrading the brake fluid from DOT-3 to DOT-4 (which is what is done for the TSB) would fix the problem described by others. I would prefer to see some transparency from Hyundai on this.

 

[Aquineas]

Yes they have issued a TSB. However, Hyundai doesn't notify owners and only applies the fix if the car is brought to the dealer for some other reason (unless owner finds out about the TSB some other way and brings it in for that fix). When I checked the website that has the TSB's for my VIN, I discovered another TSB for the SRS airbag system that needs to be applied and for which I was not notified. I would consider TSB's for critical safety functions like the airbag and brakes to be important enough that HMA should notify owners to bring their cars in ASAP.

Also, since the problem has been tracked to ABS Brake Module, it is unclear to me how simply upgrading the brake fluid from DOT-3 to DOT-4 (which is what is done for the TSB) would fix the problem described by others. I would prefer to see some transparency from Hyundai on this.

I gotta agree here. You really don't want to @*!*!# around with something as fundamental as brakes. It's a miracle that no one has lost their lives (that we know of; the Genesis owners who post on this forum are a small percentage of the total number of Genesis owners).

That being said, as I mentioned, I definitely would buy, but my reasons for waiting until the 3rd year of the next gen are:

1. I already have a 2012
2. I want to give them time to work things out

 

[Bobcaat]

On the brake issue I had a different experience. I bought my car from Carmax and under the Carmax 30 day warranty it had to to into the Hyundai shop, under Hyundai warranty, for a problem with the sunroof. The car was fixed and returned to Carmax. Before I picked up the car from Carmax Hyundai called Carmax to inform them of the Brake TSB and asked that the car be brought back in to Hyundai so they make that repair and save me another trip to the service department. They notified us to make this repair.

 

[LA Genesis]

My 2012 has been the most troublesome new car I've ever owned. The electronics are deplorable and Hyundai doesn't bother to address the issues year after year. Having been on several different car forums my impression is that Genesis owners have far more problems with their new cars than most.

That being said the next generation Genesis will likely look great and still remain priced right. I may get sucked in again.

 

[Mark_888]

On the brake issue I had a different experience. I bought my car from Carmax and under the Carmax 30 day warranty it had to to into the Hyundai shop, under Hyundai warranty, for a problem with the sunroof. The car was fixed and returned to Carmax. Before I picked up the car from Carmax Hyundai called Carmax to inform them of the Brake TSB and asked that the car be brought back in to Hyundai so they make that repair and save me another trip to the service department. They notified us to make this repair.

I think there is a reason for that. Hyundai requires dealers to apply the TSB fix to any car brought to their service department after the TSB date (or cars in their inventory). When Carmax brought it in for warranty service, the dealer was required to apply the brake TSB but for some reason did not. Since they did not apply it as required when they had the car in for service (as required by HMA), they must have realized their mistake and they had to contact you to bring it back in. According to the wording in the TSB, dealers only need to apply the TSB fix if the car was brought in for service, and are not required to contact owners otherwise.

 

[Cut-Throat]

My 2012 has been the most troublesome new car I've ever owned. The electronics are deplorable and Hyundai doesn't bother to address the issues year after year. Having been on several different car forums my impression is that Genesis owners have far more problems with their new cars than most.

That being said the next generation Genesis will likely look great and still remain priced right. I may get sucked in again.

My 2011 has been flawless......Most of the folks here seem to have a similar experience. There are the minority that have had some problems.

Unlike my 2007 Lexus GS where almost everyone on the forum has had problems, in addition to about 5 re-calls.

The brake fluid re-call on my Genesis will be the first.

 

[Mark_888]

Unlike my 2007 Lexus GS where almost everyone on the forum has had problems, in addition to about 5 re-calls.

Obviously, no one likes problems with a car. However, I think it is completely wrong to criticize an automaker simply based on the number of recalls. A voluntary recall (not forced on them by the government safety boards) is an admission that a problem may exist (even if usually very unlikely) and is a proactive action on their part to resolve it ahead of time to make sure owners are not adversely affected. The biggest problem and most dangerous situation is when a defect becomes known, but the automaker does not want to do a recall because it is too expensive and/or too embarrassing. So in effect, I am turning the world upside-down and saying that the more the number of voluntary recalls, the more I trust the automaker.