Would you buy it again?

[Cut-Throat]

Obviously, no one likes problems with a car. However, I think it is completely wrong to criticize an automaker simply based on the number of recalls. A voluntary recall (not forced on them by the government safety boards) is an admission that a problem may exist (even if usually very unlikely) and is a proactive action on their part to resolve it ahead of time to make sure owners are not adversely affected. The biggest problem and most dangerous situation is when a defect becomes known, but the automaker does not want to do a recall because it is too expensive and/or too embarrassing. So in effect, I am turning the world upside-down and saying that the more the number of voluntary recalls, the more I trust the automaker.

Ha!......If the recalls were the biggest problem, I would not even have posted this!......The rattles drive me nuts.

 

[jpfx]

I've bought an accent, sonata, tiburon, sante fe and a 2011 genesis from hyundai over the last decade or so for me and the missus. By far the biggest irritation has been the people that I've had to deal with. There's been the odd standout character but too many have been lowlife.
I'm very inclined to scale back and lease something cheap and inconspicuous in dec when my lease on the genesis runs out.
it's been the best I've had though...

 

[Ruissimo]

The answer to the OP's question can be found here:

http://www.genesisowners.com/hyundai-genesis-forum/showpost.php?p=113783&postcount=61

 

[SterlingDave]

You bet I would! In fact I did. Upgraded my 2009 to a 2012 and if possible, I like it even more (except for the color, my wife liked the Sterling Blue). I'll probably upgrade again in 2015/6.

 

[jimmy buoy]

Apparently yes... I just traded my 2009 3.8 Tech for a 2012 5.0 R-Spec demonstrator. I'm even more impressed with it than the 2009.

I've had some issues like others with parking sensors, backup camera, stereo head unit, and seat heaters, but the dealer is usually responsive enough and the warranty is great.

I was able to buy the 2012 for $6000 less than what I paid for the 2009 since the dealer's owner drove it for 6 months and put 10000 km on it. I'm ok with that!

 

[427435]

After 4 months and 3100 miles-------------you bet!

 

[DRS]

I would buy one based on my experience to date. That might change once I see how they deal with the seat issue. I have a 5.0.

I read through all the posts above. Hammering the Germans (justified in my view), and Lexus (justified).

My Genny is the first non domestic for me since 1989 (300E). I know I may get knocked here... I have owned Ford L/M cars and trucks much of my life and exclusive since 89 (except for a SLP Firehawk). If looking for sedan, I would check out the SHO, or MKS (with AWD and twin turbo like the SHO). I also would look at the V6 MKZ. They are way underestimated (like the Genny). And I have had great reliability with FMC products. I buy them for my guys at my company, and personal. I have enough volume to have a decent idea of quality as it relates to failures and defects. Many of my FMC cars and trucks have never seen a dealer for warranty or after warranty repair. Solid, nice features and easy to operate. The early Sync systems are better than the Genny current DIS product from a reliability (based on forums here) and ease of use (IMO).

I am also impressed with Government Motors Caddy ATS V6, CTS. I have friends who like them. Although there trips to the dealers while lower than reported here in this forum, are more than I would like.

I also have business associates who love their Chrysler 300. Either V6, V8, or SRT. No dealer visits, and good quality and ease of use. And good mileage if driven normally.

There are good deals out there for the domestics (not much on the ATS, it is selling more then supply from what I hear). The quality is better than any European and most oriental, on many of the domestic models, especially the sedans I mentioned.

I have Crown Vic's who have had business mileage over 250, and going strong with NO major repair and no defects. Same for various work F250-350SD. Yes, even the diesel. My personal favorites are the 2008 F350SD and 2008 Fusion Sport with a manual tranny. Yes, a rare manual (and used by me. And for the kiddos to learn a stick).

I have owned a gaggle of Mustang V8s over the years. All reliable, never dealer queens.

Please check out domestics. There are many good ones today, if you decide to look past a Genny. They have good paint, do not rust, fun, good mileage, low defects and repair (I have recorded and experienced in my business and personal fleet). Certainly you would not be full of vanity if interested in a Genny instead of the over inflated Germans. So, take the time to compare domestics. Time to lose any potential domestic auto racism.

For the moment, the Genny I have is one of the best cars I have ever owned. Based on how it fits me, how solid it feels, value, and overall performance.

 

[DRS]

Typo in first sentence.. I would "buy" one based on... Using iPhone app. Couple of auto fill in word mistakes.

 

[Vince2]

Jimmy compare the rides of your vehicles. How do they compare as far as firmness, body sway and handling of rough surfaces. This question has been asked before but I 've never seen an answer from someone in your unique position...you've had the very first Genesis and the latest.

 

[427435]

Typo in first sentence.. I would "buy" one based on... Using iPhone app. Couple of auto fill in word mistakes.

You might want to just use the "Edit" button on your first post. Less confusing.

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[jimmy buoy]

Jimmy compare the rides of your vehicles. How do they compare as far as firmness, body sway and handling of rough surfaces. This question has been asked before but I 've never seen an answer from someone in your unique position...you've had the very first Genesis and the latest.

Good question. I had been quite happy with my 09, but was considering upgrading to a 2012 since there were some attractive incentives on remaining models and the engine had been substantially improved. While visiting my sons in Alberta I needed to rent a car and they provided a 2012 3.8 Genesis. Even though it wasn't a Tech model, there was a definite improvement in noise level (didn't think that was possible), engine sound, suspension, steering, and braking. It had enough of a WOW factor that I decided to start shopping for a 2012 3.8 Tech when I got home to Ontario. Too late. All the cars I had seen before my trip were sold.

I wanted the same color as my 09 - White - and could fine nothing anywhere within 8 hrs drive! No 3.8's, but there were 2 White R-Spec's within 3.5 hrs. Both were demos and within $2g in price. The one was driven by the GM who apparently does NOT lend his personal vehicle out to anyone.

I have never purchased a car without a test drive, but the deal was too too sweet - bought it over the phone that night!

Started to get nervous about the "harsh ride" in some reviews and wondered if I made a mistake. Wrong! It is not harsh IMHO, but more firm than the 2012 3.8 while still having that "better controlled" feeling than my 09. The transmission is seamless compared to the 09, but feels the same as the 3.8 2012 upon normal acceleration. However, slowing down the R-spec's tranny has more of an intentional downshift that helps slow the car down which the 2012 3.8 did not seem to have. I think the new tranny is an improvement on the already good 09's.

The new car does not have the raspy sound upon start-up like my 09 3.8. Also, the rpm's slow down as it goes into reverse so there isn't a "jerk" like my 09 had - enhancing the "smooth" feeling of this car. It takes expansion joints and sunken man hole covers with a rubbery like jostle while my 09 seemed to have more of a "bang and lunge" feel. The steering is more responsive than the 09 but it still has to be closely monitored on the highway to stay centred.

Apparently in Canada, the 09 3.8 Tech did NOT get the upgraded leather like in the USA. Never noticed it until experiencing the leather in my R-spec! Buttery smooth vs hard and vinyl like. Nice surprise.

Underway, both the 2012's are definitely quieter. Not sure if it's just the quieter engines or if there is more soundproofing, but it is whisper quiet - even when the engine is first started. Friends that have ridden in it cannot get over this (or the power of the engine).

You asked about body sway. Much less with both the 3.8 and R-spec than the 09. The R-spec seems to tighten up with increased speed making clover leaf entries to highways an absolute blast! Never have I felt that the suspension was "punishing" which is impressive considering that our area of the country is plagued with frost heaving and limited road repair budgets.

Sorry for the rather long winded response, but obviously I'm still in the "honeymoon" phase of Genesis assimilation (once again). As the dealer says - "I'm spreading the Gospel of Genesis"!!

 

[Glashub]

No I would not. Great car in many respects. However, underwhelming air conditioning, a nav display that can't be read on sunny afternoons, seats that are made for I don't know what kind of butt, horrible gas mileage in LA, lack of controls for passenger seat, GDI that is already causing problems and the deal breaker -- a ride/handling combo that is just odd and unrefined.

 

[Potty_Pants]

Honestly.....

No.

While it is a great value for the money. The car has a few quirks.... but what car doesnt ?

It will hold up many many years.

However its just to big for me, the car is alittle unnerving/floaty.

The service depts lack the grace of a premium brand.

If hyundai makes the rumored 3 series competitor... i would buy that in a heart beat.
So no for genesis but yes for hyundai

Ppp

 

[Mark_888]

Honestly.....

No.

While it is a great value for the money. The car has a few quirks.... but what car doesnt ?

I don't mind the quirks that much except for one: The apparent brake issue where it suddenly fails. That is not just a minor quirk. I hope that the fluid change fixes that, but I am skeptical since most people who had it fixed had their ABS control unit replaced.

 

[acoga]

No I would not. Great car in many respects. However, underwhelming air conditioning, a nav display that can't be read on sunny afternoons, seats that are made for I don't know what kind of butt, horrible gas mileage in LA, lack of controls for passenger seat, GDI that is already causing problems and the deal breaker -- a ride/handling combo that is just odd and unrefined.

I feel very similar to you. The car is a great value, no question. But to buy another it would have to substantially improve on the issue you mention, plus the aggravating iPod interface.

I'll definitely consider the new generation Genesis when it's out. But I'll also be looking at potentially moving to a smaller chassis too. So I'm going to look at the ATS V when it's available, the CTS Vsport (not the full "V"; it has a twin turbo 420HP V6), the Audi A4, and BMW 335. I'm not sure I want to stay with a relatively large car; I always enjoyed smaller cars, hence the wide range of options.

I guess you could sum it up this way: I don't regret buying my Genesis, but it's not so awesome that it's generated any sort of emotional brand loyalty from me.

 

[Vince2]

Thanks for the review Jimmy Buoy. It's not "long winded" at all.

 

[Qbedobedoo]

I'm thrilled with my 3.8 Genesis.

If I would buy it again?? I dunno dude, It's hard to predict, especially about the future!!!

If my financial adviser (that'd be the wife) allows it, I'd go for a Nissan GTR.

 

[medhat]

No regrets whatsoever, even in retrospect. But would I pay the mid 40s for a 2013/2014? I guess I wouldn't pay that for anything. Wasn't enamored with the A6, GS, any BMW, Maxima, for really any amount of money. Back in '09 when I purchased it was "take a chance on a new model Hyundai" or "just get a Camry". So obviously, no regrets. But what interests me today, if I had to get something new (and I don't): I'd look seriously at a Ford Fusion hybrid. Yea, no expectation of the same power (heck, or anything) as an R-spec, but I really love what Ford had done lately, and in fact I consider their recent (~ 2 years) progress much akin to what Hyundai started with the introduction of the Genesis, a focus on innovative (some would claim derivative) design and feature offerings (Hyundai - V8 power, Ford - hybrids) that are appealing. I completely acknowledge that Ford took the Aston Martin grill as a going-away present after the sale, but they really put it to good use. But I'm hoping that my Genesis remains as reliable as it has been for the past 3+ years.

 

[10genesis]

Maybe
Don't get me wrong, I love my Genny. It's my second one, traded a 09 (terrible ride) for this 2010. I have had minimal problems with the Genny, great service, great dealer (Coconut Creek Hyundai in S. Florida). During my 51 years of owning cars I have had
Caddy's, Lincolns, MB's, BMW's, Lexus and Jeep Grand Cherokees.
When the domestic cars took a dump in reliabilty in the late 70's I went for the imports. Aside for the high cost of repairs and maintenance the imports were a great alternative. The game has finally changed, GM, Ford and Chrysler have finally woke up! They are building better quality and more reliable cars than ever. I have had 4 Grand Cherokees (need one for Business)
all were pieces of crap except for the 2012 that I currently have, It is one phenomenal truck. I plan to trade my Genny in two years, I may get another but I also want to see what American cars are like ie:the bigger 2014 Caddy CTS, don't laugh, 2014 Chevy Impala LTZ2, Beautiful Car . I really want to buy AMERICAN AGAIN! Thanks for putting up with my rant.

 

[Retry]

Had I been asked the question with 5,000 miles on the clock, I might have answered negatively. I was disappointed with the fuel mileage plus the car drifted all over the road. However, now at 12,000 miles both of those issues have somehow resolved themselves. The fuel mileage is as good or maybe better than expected and the tires must have worn in because the drift is no more. I do have a slight whine in my rear differential and my drivers seat is wrinkled, but other than that I'm very pleased with the car. It remains very tight and quiet; not a single squeak or rattle. So yes, at this point I would consider another Genny. BTW, I've also enjoyed the multitude of positive comments and long stares the car gets. Sort of strokes my ego you know.