Saw the 2015 Genesis in person, no camo

[RSPEC429]

To the OP or whoever else has already seen it...did Hyundai keep the rotary knob interface on the infotainment system or did they move to touchscreen?

 

[dillpa]

I'm curious if the back seats had latches hinting to a fold down feature. That combined with AWD and I'm sold.

 

[Ernie3647]

The fold down rear seats has been on a lot of wish lists including my own. I’m looking forward to some (what I consider) important safety features like:
Blind spot monitoring
Rear cross traffic detection
Heads up display
Of course AWD and hopefully collision avoidance.
If those items become a reality I’ll see you at the dealer.

 

[RobertE]

I have been researching about the Genesis and am looking to get a new one this December. What I'm wondering now is, if this new next generation wont be out until 2015, what will be done to the 2014 due out in a few months? Will it pretty much look identical to the 2013? Thanks for any info, this forum is fantastic and my wife and I are really looking forward to getting a new Genesis.

 

[PMCErnie]

I have been researching about the Genesis and am looking to get a new one this December. What I'm wondering now is, if this new next generation wont be out until 2015, what will be done to the 2014 due out in a few months? Will it pretty much look identical to the 2013? Thanks for any info, this forum is fantastic and my wife and I are really looking forward to getting a new Genesis.

I think we can logically assume that the 2014 model will be 98% similar, if not identical, to the 2013 models. If that is the case, then there should be some pretty good deals on those 2013 models and scattered '12 leftovers. Obviously, you will have to wait until the '14's come out before making your decision. If I were in your shoes, I would be waiting for more information about the 2015 models. Who knows, Hyundai might decide to do an early debut.

 

[RSPEC429]

I have been researching about the Genesis and am looking to get a new one this December. What I'm wondering now is, if this new next generation wont be out until 2015, what will be done to the 2014 due out in a few months? Will it pretty much look identical to the 2013? Thanks for any info, this forum is fantastic and my wife and I are really looking forward to getting a new Genesis.

The 2014 model year is a lame duck model year. Hyundai will not spend money on changing it at all. For 2013, they updated the infotainment system and switched up colors and models offered; for 2014, the most I see them doing is maybe changing up the color options again. Nothing major beyond that will happen to the first gen Genesis.

 

[YEH]

I have been researching about the Genesis and am looking to get a new one this December. What I'm wondering now is, if this new next generation wont be out until 2015, what will be done to the 2014 due out in a few months? Will it pretty much look identical to the 2013? Thanks for any info, this forum is fantastic and my wife and I are really looking forward to getting a new Genesis.

The 2G Genesis will be out in 2014 but as a 2015 MY (just as the 1G Genesis was launched in 2008 as a 2009 MY); the question is whether it will be sometime midyear or later than that.

And as already stated, the 2014 MY will be a lame duck w/ probably no real changes and will have a truncated run.

Anyways, thanks for the kind words guys (if people were only able to comment on autos they owned, then the auto message boards would be much less active).

 

[snork]

Did cars.com spill the beans (partially anyway) on the 2015 Genny interior? Article is about Hyundai's BlueLink infographic, but the pic looks like the spy shots of the 2G Genesis dash.

http://blogs.cars.com/kickingtires/2013/07/searching-for-starbucks-hyundai-says-you-are.html

 

[DominicJE]

Did cars.com spill the beans (partially anyway) on the 2015 Genny interior? Article is about Hyundai's BlueLink infographic, but the pic looks like the spy shots of the 2G Genesis dash.

http://blogs.cars.com/kickingtires/2013/07/searching-for-starbucks-hyundai-says-you-are.html

That's the 2014 Hyundai Equus interior

As seen here -

 

[snork]

Ah, ok...that makes more sense. I looked at Hyundai's website and they still show the 2013 Equus, so the pics didn't match.

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[Aquineas]

I am pretty sure that all new Hyundais and Kias will have Google Maps as their navigation software.

This would be a definite improvement.

 

[Aquineas]

The Genesis wing logo looks better than the Equus wing logo, imho.

 

[geneswede]

The Genesis wing logo looks better than the Equus wing logo, imho.

Agreed but neither is "good". All Hyundai's logos are below average or bad in my mind.

 

[SimpsonTide985]

But compared to all of the other "winged" logos, I think they look just fine to me.

 

[SimpsonTide985]

Has it been confirmed that the 2015 Genesis will have AWD or at least a Snow mode?

 

[DavidNJ]

If the LED headlights aren't standard, they will be an option. They are an option on the A6, E-class, and 5-series for 2014, and at least one will probably have them standard for 2015. The Infiniti Q50 and Toyota Corolla (yes, Corolla) have them standard for 2014.

The features to look for are:

1. Adaptive High Beams that read the location of a car in front or oncoming and only dim the lights facing that car with a shutter and rotation. High beams continue on either side of the oncoming car and any dimming is gradual.
   
2. Adaptive Cruise Control with a start-stop feature. On the E-class a tap of the gas reactivates the cruise. On the 5-series, beginning with 11/2013 production, it will continue to move forward and stop automatically with Traffic Jam Assist.
   
3. Some form of Steering Assist. The E-class and Infiniti Q50 will both use their forward facing camera to steer the car, keeping it centered in the lane. BMW has a similar function at low speeds in their Traffic Assist Feature. It requires electric steering assist so BMW doesn't have it on xDrive models with hydraulic steering.
   
4. Active Blind Spot and Lane Departure intervention. The E-class and Q50 have this, move the car back into the lane. The 5-series and A6 only provide warnings.
   
5. Surround Cameras. Once you've used this you will never want a car without it. On the E-class and Q50 the surround has front, mirror mounted side, and rear cameras with a top view displayed along side the front or rear camera. Additionally, at least on the E-class, shows lines of the path the car is steered to go, front and rear. The Q50 and E-class also display park sensor info on the image. Audi's shows top view but no alongside a front or rear view. BMW shows the top view along side parking sensor display, but doesn't have a front camera or front top view camera. Owners say they have no way to find bumper catching partial front curbs. The Equus has this.
   
6. Sideview. Audi has side cameras front and rear. BMW has them front only. MB has a 130° view of the front and rear cameras, which in some ways is better because it has context but maybe not as wide a view as the Audi or BMW. It also appears to require going through nav menus rather than a quick console button. But that may be configurable.
   
7. Cross path collision alert. Backing out of a parking space or at an intersection. The sideview cameras do it to some degree with active driver involvement. The Q50 (and some US brands) use the rear blind spot radars for an alert and automatic brake application. The MB has a front cross path system built into the front radar and camera monitoring. The Equus is similar to the Q50 on this.
   
8. Brake hold feature. On the BMW, you press the hold button on the console and then when you brake to a stop the parking brake is automatically engaged. Press the gas it is released. On the E-class, it requires an extra press of the brake pedal, then releases when you press the gas. At traffic lights or other long waits, a big advantage of keeping the car in place.
   
9. Touchpad nav system input. This is on the Audi A6 and BMW 5-series. Functioning similar to Google Gesture, you trace a letter with a finger and the system uses it to select the application (nav, phone, etc.), destination, contact, etc. Audi has it next to the controller. BMW has it on top of the controller knob in what I consider the better implementation. Better than the MB telephone keypad. Does not require the driver to take their eyes off the road. The Q50 has a knob and a touch screen...but no letter input.
   
10. Google Maps. Road maps are nice but satellite photos give you more info. An idea what your are looking for. The A6 and 5-series have it, although on the 5-series it is less useful because it doesn't let the photos go to the greatest magnifications.
    
11. Heads up display. On the Equus Ultimate, 5-series, A6. Really nice if well implemented.
    
12. Dynamically adjusting shocks. An option on the BMW and MB 550. Also on the ATS. Basically, it can adapt for rough or smooth roads, for Sport and Comfort modes. Really useful if you don't what the E-class Sport ride driving to work.
    
13. Runflat tires. Something to be avoided. Really don't provide any meaningful advantage considering their cost. BTW, a runflat flat, if you actually drive on it, destroys the tire and usually the rim (just check the BMW forums). The tires available run flat are virtually all obsolete, hard riding models. Nearly all BMWs have them, for some bizarre reason all Q50s have them (they also have a spare available), and the MB diesel and hybrid have them. If it comes with them, changing to a good non-runflat (Michelin Pilot Super Sport, Michelin Pilot Sport AS3) is a good idea.
    
14. Torque vectoring. Included with BMW's Integral Active Steering and xDrive, optional on several Audis but not the a6, it either makes a steering correction, shifts the front/rear bias on the AWD, or uses a single rear brake to adjust the yaw rate preventing oversteer or understeer. It is standard on Porsche GT3 and 911 Turbo models.
    
15. Active Steering. This is big news on the Q50 which is a total fly-by-wire system. Usually, it is just a gearbox on the steering column. There can also be rear wheels steering. It allows the steering ratio to be changed. In the Q50 the driver selects one of 3 fixed combinations of effort and ratio, or a custom configuration of effort and ratio. On the 5-series (only with RWD), some Audis (but not the A6), the Lexus GS350 Sport RWD, some 3-series models, some S4 models, it dynamically adjusts the ratio depending on what the car is doing. Drivers report the car feels more agile and much easier to handle in tight spots.
    
16. Parking Assist. Not sensors...parking the car. As available on the E-class and 5-series (RWD only), it finds a parking spot big enough for the car, than parks the car in the spot, operating the wheel and depending on the implementation brakes and gas. MB does steering and brakes. I think BMW does all 3. Not available on the Q50, A6, or GS350, at least in the US.
    
17. Ventilated seats. I have no idea what moron in product planning decided US Genesis sedans would only have a driver side ventilated seat. Hopefully that is fixed. On the MB you can operate the ventilation and heat at the same time.
    
18. Active seats. MB has a dynamic driver's seat that includes a massage function. BMW includes it in the luxury seating package (which also has their 20 way front seats and front seat ventilation). Not essential (!!!) but nice to have.
    
19. Fold-down rear seat. All the German cars—A6, 5-series, E-class—have it standard or optional. The Q50 has it optional. It makes a car in this class much more practical.
    
20. Rear seat rear and side blinds. This is an on the Equus Ultimate, rear only on the base Equus. Optional on the BMW and MB (although MB makes the side blinds an expensive special order).

 

[lobsenza]

Does anyone know if the 2015 Genesis will come with touch screen navigation? I much prefer navigation systems with an option of a touch screen interface.

 

[Mark_888]

Just in case you are not aware, current Genesis Sedan has touch screen navigation on Premium Package, and DIS/voice controlled navigation on Tech Package equipped cars. Base Trim has no nav.

 

[lobsenza]

I was hoping that the tech package would add touch screen navigation in addition to the DIS/voice currently used.

 

[BrazGenesis]

The complexity of the options and alternatives tend to make touch screen the way to go. Better than that, in my opinion, would be ALSO be Android based.