2015 Hyundai Genesis Sedan Spy Photos

[ksoze]

My info was from a recent SAE (Society of Automative Engineers) article which also has some interesting tech details:

http://articles.sae.org/12741/

 

[Alwaysforward]

My info was from a recent SAE (Society of Automative Engineers) article which also has some interesting tech details:

http://articles.sae.org/12741/

Thanks for the link. Good article

 

[jonb17]

Sorry if I missed some of this information on a prior thread. Just saw the V6 AWD model at the Columbus, Ohio show. Rep showed me his ipad, but I did not get a long look at it - sorry. Highway mileage on the AWD V6 is 25mpg. New RWD version is 29mpg highway. The 3.8 model will have the base model plus three trim models. The first will be similar to the prior Option 1 package. The second package contains most of the safety features such as lane assistance etc. The top package will have the heads-up display, the Lexicon 17 speaker system etc. The screen showed the AWD option to be $2500????? (the question marks were on the screen) so they don't know yet. There was no price on the base model or any of the options package. At least I know that the packaging will be different that the Canadian model. Hope this helps someone. Can't wait for prices and delivery times, but I expect some price gouging in the near term.

 

[tompass]

No mention of pricing of 5.0 or if AWD 5.0 would be available?

 

[jonb17]

He was not talking about the 5.0 car and the ipad only showed him information about the 3.8 car. I tried to look over his shoulder and did not see anything on the ipad about the V8. Sorry.

 

[tompass]

No problem. Reason for asking is because another poster who visited an Arizona dealer was led to believe by salesperson that an AWD 5.0 will be offered. I somewhat doubt that it will be offered at this juncture but sure hope it will be made available a bit later in the year.

 

[YEH]

I wasn't defending the gas mileage. YEH, was just making things up from nowhere in his last post. The system is not heavy, the weight has been discussed by Hyundai... it's actually particularly light. It could be as simple as the numbers being rounded to whole numbers with a .4 on the AWD and a .6 on the RWD and that makes the diff look bigger.

I stated that there could be a no. of factors leading to the discrepancy and a more simple AWD system would be lighter (as long as it was developed in the same time frame so all the same weight reduction processes are taken).

The Acura TL has a 2 MPG hit when equipped w/ SH-AWD.

There is no reason why Hyundai would be conservative about the EPA rating for the 3.8 equipped w/ HTRAC but not for the 3.8 RWD, esp. when the RWD will likely outsell the HTRAC.

So as I had stated earlier, things like added weight due to the HTRAC likely being offered only w/ higher packages likely contribute to the discrepancy.

 

[Jutdean]

Sorry if this is a repeat, but a nice video of the 2015 5.0.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WcyRMYGDPMo&feature=youtube_gdata_player

 

[italiabrain]

I stated that there could be a no. of factors leading to the discrepancy and a more simple AWD system would be lighter (as long as it was developed in the same time frame so all the same weight reduction processes are taken).

The Acura TL has a 2 MPG hit when equipped w/ SH-AWD.

There is no reason why Hyundai would be conservative about the EPA rating for the 3.8 equipped w/ HTRAC but not for the 3.8 RWD, esp. when the RWD will likely outsell the HTRAC.

So as I had stated earlier, things like added weight due to the HTRAC likely being offered only w/ higher packages likely contribute to the discrepancy.

What are you talking about? You stated "The thing is that the HTRAC system is a more complicated and heavier AWD system and hence has a harsher fuel penalty than simpler AWD systems and also have to keep in mind what features come standard in AWD for the Genesis which further adds weight."

Your comment was in direct response to people pointing out that BMW and MB only lose about 1 mpg to AWD.

I said nothing about Hyundai being conservative, people always use whole numbers. If you're not familiar with how rounding can cause spread in stats look it up...

The TL-SH has a different engine displacement than the FWD TL. You should really just stop....

 

[larry'sown]

I'd bet those are just estimations at this point. With the improvements to both the 3.8 and 5.0 intakes, there shoukd be a slight increase over 2014 numbers. I very much doubt there is a that much of a mgp penalty for the AWD version as it was reported to have an ECO mode that can send 90% of the piwer to the front wheels. Obviously we'll all just have to wait and see, but I'm going to be optimistic.

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[PMCErnie]

Sorry if this is a repeat, but a nice video of the 2015 5.0.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WcyRMYGDPMo&feature=youtube_gdata_player

Note the taillights in this video. Slightly misfitted with the trunk part of the lights.

 

[italiabrain]

I'd bet those are just estimations at this point. With the improvements to both the 3.8 and 5.0 intakes, there shoukd be a slight increase over 2014 numbers. I very much doubt there is a that much of a mgp penalty for the AWD version as it was reported to have an ECO mode that can send 90% of the piwer to the front wheels. Obviously we'll all just have to wait and see, but I'm going to be optimistic.

Eco is up to 100% rear. "Escape" is up to 90% front. That probably refers to being in snow or normal mode with sustained wheelspin at the rears.

 

[larry'sown]

Note the taillights in this video. Slightly misfitted with the trunk part of the lights.

Seriously, what is your obsession with pointing out the taillights of pre-production vehicles?

 

[larry'sown]

Eco is up to 100% rear. "Escape" is up to 90% front. That probably refers to being in snow or normal mode with sustained wheelspin at the rears.

Either way, with the ability to send most or all of the power to two wheels, I can't fathom that the AWD cars would perform so poorly.

 

[PMCErnie]

Seriously, what is your obsession with pointing out the taillights of pre-production vehicles?

It's clearly misaligned. I don't know when, or how, it was built. Do you?

 

[italiabrain]

Either way, with the ability to send most or all of the power to two wheels, I can't fathom that the AWD cars would perform so poorly.

I agree, wasn't trying to call you out.

 

[italiabrain]

It's clearly misaligned. I don't know when, or how, it was built. Do you?

In a sense yes. We know it's preproduction because that video is old (I think that's the 3rd posting on this thread) and USDM wasn't in production. The point is that trunk alignment is a dead horse unless there's some evidence that it's going to continue into production. Find a picture of a released KDM that we know went through a normal assembly line and then we'll have something to talk about.

I think it was MT, might have been Autoweek or Edmunds, but one of the reviews that were embargoed into November said something about fit and finish being good for a preproduction model.

 

[larry'sown]

I agree, wasn't trying to call you out.

Didn't think that you were.

 

[larry'sown]

In a sense yes. We know it's preproduction because that video is old (I think that's the 3rd posting on this thread) and USDM wasn't in production. The point is that trunk alignment is a dead horse unless there's some evidence that it's going to continue into production. Find a picture of a released KDM that we know went through a normal assembly line and then we'll have something to talk about.

I think it was MT, might have been Autoweek or Edmunds, but one of the reviews that were embargoed into November said something about fit and finish being good for a preproduction model.

Thank you...

 

[PMCErnie]

I didn't create the car, or the video. I just reported the facts. Why the sensitivity? As far as I recall, the US/Canadian media previewed Korean market cars in Korea for the reviews that have been published here, up till the LA and Detroit auto shows. No USA cars were shown. I'm sure Hyundai will be smart enough to eliminate such fitment problems on cars that drive off the boat here. In the meanwhile, we can all certainly comment as we like on observations that we have. TYVM