When will the 2015 Hyundai Genesis be at dealerships?

[Seattle Genesis]

A black V8 showed up. Still trying to get the Ok to go in and look at them. My buddy is still trying to get me a good picture of the front of the V6 as well.

Thats got my name ALL OVER IT !!!!

 

[Mark_888]

Something I odd I noticed is a large overhang of the trunk. Just seems out of place.

Every time I look at the 2015 trunk it looks like there is a missing chrome piece meant to span the lip that fell off the car.

 

[Seattle Genesis]

Every time I look at the 2015 trunk it looks like there is a missing chrome piece meant to span the lip that fell off the car.

I TOTALLY agree with you. Im so glad someone else thinks it has an unfinished look to it.

 

[Crusty Old Shellback]

Yep, back end seems unfinished and a little strange.

Drove by this morning and the parking lot is filling up. Even looked like there were some on the trucks getting shipped out. So they should be showing up soon at the dealers.

My buddy is checking to see if I can get in this week and look at them. Anything you guys want to see or know about? Probably won't get to drive one though.

 

[ksoze]

Anything you guys want to see or know about? Probably won't get to drive one though.

Tire brand? Radar grill unit on non-optioned cars?

 

[Advocate225]

Every time I look at the 2015 trunk it looks like there is a missing chrome piece meant to span the lip that fell off the car.

I saw 2 new Genesis on the floor at the New York Auto Show last week. The rear of the car is screaming out for some trim to dress up the car.

Were I trailing the car on the turnpike I'd assume it was an Elantra in front of me.

 

[videopho]

My local sale man Hyundai in Plano, TX has informed me it will be several weeks before the 2015s start rolling into his show room and already 4 of these are spoken for and they have started taking deposit.

 

[Seattle Genesis]

Although this is a 2nd generation Genesis it seems to be completely new car. Im not buying the first gen car anymore.. I learned the hard way with the 2009 Genesis. I'll wait and see, but Im really looking forward to seeing it soon.

 

[ALOHA808]

Here is a video with a lot of info: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FfcdM85aKz8

some info given is about when to start expecting to see the new genesis in car lots. Some info about the fuel cell tucson, and just a boat load of info about the genesis period. Hope this help some of you.

 

[ronreal]

My Hyundai dealer in So. California said that they would have one 2015 Hyundai Genesis on May 8th, to view and test drive, but not sell yet.

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[Crusty Old Shellback]

They are slowly loading some on the trucks and shipping them out. I see mainly black and white cars rolling out. So far, only one dark gray.

 

[drubush]

My Hyundai dealer in So. California said that they would have one 2015 Hyundai Genesis on May 8th, to view and test drive, but not sell yet.

Ronreal-
What Dealer did you talk too..
I live in Orange Co.

Scott

 

[ilovemygenesis]

Here is a video with a lot of info: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FfcdM85aKz8

some info given is about when to start expecting to see the new genesis in car lots. Some info about the fuel cell tuson, and just a boat load of info about the genesis period. Hope this help some of you.

Where does Hyundai view Acura in terms of competition? The RL i would think should be included in the list of competitors.

 

[YEH]

Where does Hyundai view Acura in terms of competition? The RL i would think should be included in the list of competitors.

It's really the TL that is the competition for the Genesis but that is going to be replaced soon by the TLX which is a little smaller.

Acura sees the RLX as competition for the midsize luxury segment (but that's largely due to pricing - as it is w/ the XTS and MKS), but they also state that the RLX can compete w/ the flagships when it comes to rear passenger room.

 

[ilovemygenesis]

It's really the TL that is the competition for the Genesis but that is going to be replaced soon by the TLX which is a little smaller.

Acura sees the RLX as competition for the midsize luxury segment (but that's largely due to pricing - as it is w/ the XTS and MKS), but they also state that the RLX can compete w/ the flagships when it comes to rear passenger room.

Hyundai is marketing the Genesis for the mid-sized luxury market which is why i asked about Acura cuz in the presentation i didn't hear them mention Acura as a viable competitor.

 

[Mark_888]

Where does Hyundai view Acura in terms of competition? The RL i would think should be included in the list of competitors.

Does it matter what Hyundai thinks, and aren't they just making wild-ass guesses? I would think it matters more what consumers think. Besides, the breadth and width of competitive vehicles shopped by Genesis customers is much wider than they would have you believe.

The big problem with RLX is the Japanese/US currency exchange rates and the bucktooth grill on the current Acura's. If Acura could somehow overcome these issues, then it would be more a threat, but Genesis will likely still have a serious price advantage (albeit with some discounting) for the foreseeable future.

 

[YEH]

Does it matter what Hyundai thinks, and aren't they just making wild-ass guesses? I would think it matters more what consumers think. Besides, the breadth and width of competitive vehicles shopped by Genesis customers is much wider than they would have you believe.

And again, consumers generally know that the Genesis sedan is a RWD, midsize luxury sedan - irrespective of any other vehicles that they may be contemplating.

And from that basis - they will determine whether the Genesis is worth the $$ (no luxury badge/dealer network), even more true for the higher priced 2G Genesis.

 

[Mark_888]

And again, consumers generally know that the Genesis sedan is a RWD, midsize luxury sedan - irrespective of any other vehicles that they may be contemplating.

And from that basis - they will determine whether the Genesis is worth the $$ (no luxury badge/dealer network), even more true for the higher priced 2G Genesis.

Some buyers care about the RWD, and some don't (especially those in snowy climates). Also, in cases like the RLX, which has sophisticated drivetrain components to significantly reduce torque steer and other FWD anomalies, it may not be as much of a factor. When I bought my Genesis, I shopped both FWD and RWD cars. If the Acura TL had not been so hideous looking, I would have purchased it instead.

As I mentioned previously, Hyundai and other car makers spend a lot of time and money trying to figure out what other cars were shopped by Hyundai owners (and even those who are not Hyundai owners). I have participated in several such surveys conducted by Hyundai. So the idea that Hyundai knows all this information ahead of time with any degree of certainty is highly questionable, and when they start offering huge discounts the whole competitive landscape of which cars get shopped starts changing rapidly.

Now, if you are talking about engineering and design benchmarking, as to what they aimed for when building the car, they probably have specific ideas in mind. But these are not usually that close to reality of what customers cross shop with, because of the large price difference between the Hyundai car and the engineering target they were aiming for. For example, Hyundai said that one of the cars they aimed for from an engineering/design/feature standpoint was BMW 5, but when actual purchasing decisions were made by customers, very few people actually seriously considered both cars since the price difference was so large (at least for 2009-2014).

 

[YEH]

Some buyers care about the RWD, and some don't (especially those in snowy climates).

Some buyers have no preference, but for the ones who prefer RWD, FWD is not a real option.

And for many who prefer RWD but live in the snow belt, AWD is a must (which is why pretty much all the RWD luxury sedans in dealer lots in the NE and Midwest are AWD equipped) and why it was vital for Hyundai to add AWD to the 2G Genesis.

Also, in cases like the RLX, which has sophisticated drivetrain components to significantly reduce torque steer and other FWD anomalies, it may not be as much of a factor. When I bought my Genesis, I shopped both FWD and RWD cars. If the Acura TL had not been so hideous looking, I would have purchased it instead.

Evidently, the market has spoken.

Despite the luxury brand/dealer network and years in the luxury market, the upstarts, Hyundai and Kia sold more high-end sedans (545) than Acura (353).

And that's despite (1) the RLX being an all-new/up to date model - whereas both the Equus and K900 are on a previous gen platform and will soon be replaced, (2) neither having available AWD which is crucial (w/ AWD, we'd probably see something like 750 in total Equus/K900 sales) and (3) being at a higher pricepoint despite lacking the luxury badge.


And if you don't think FWD vs. RWD matters so much, then why doesn't audi offer the A7 and A8 in the States in FWD?

As I mentioned previously, Hyundai and other car makers spend a lot of time and money trying to figure out what other cars were shopped by Hyundai owners (and even those who are not Hyundai owners). I have participated in several such surveys conducted by Hyundai. So the idea that Hyundai knows all this information ahead of time with any degree of certainty is highly questionable, and when they start offering huge discounts they whole competitive landscape starts changing rapidly.

Again, that's not the point.

 

[ronreal]

I got phone calls today from 2 different Hyundai dealers that each received a 2015 Genesis in today. Both said that they weren't for sale, but for viewing. Ladin Hyundai in Thousand Oaks, Ca has one, and Keyes Hyundai in Van Nuys, Ca has one. I went and saw the one in Van Nuys, Ca. They had a V8 with ultimate package with Empire State Gray exterior and "black" interior. What surprised me was that the "black" leather interior was more of a dark gray. I liked how it looked. It was better than if it was jet black. The "open pore" wood was unusual. It's different, and I'm not sure if I like it or not. It's different and looks like it needs wood oil or polish. The car had some power on. The side mirrors were not folded in. I thought they fold in when parked. The power trunk opened and closed on its own power. I could not start the car or test drive it. The hood really looks huge in a nice way. The car does not have the self-closing doors like the 2014 Equus Ultimate has.