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I forgot how poorly my Genesis is in the Snow...

I am yet to get winter tires for my RSpec. Never used winters since i always had AWD, but not this winter, especially here in Ottawa, which is much worse than Toronto.

Looking at Falken HS449, reasonably priced and good reviews. Need 4 alloy wheels as i cannot find steelies
 
Lots of snow and ice here in Minnesota. I use Blizzacks all around on winter wheels, put four bags of softener salt in the trunk and can go most anywhere in my 2009, 4.6 sedan.
 
I just received my ContiExtremeWinter Contact 225/55/17s from Tire Rack and also bought their 17 in wheels that they had specially made to clear my 2011 4.6 calipers. Hope not to have to use them in NJ for a while, but I'm ready!
 
Lots of suggestions in this very thread. And I was the OP and you will read how I eventually solved my problem.
No disrespect Cut- Throat, but this post should have been killed a long time ago. Just get a set of snow tires premounted on wheels and switch them as you need to. Monitor, please eliminate this item , problem solved.
 
No disrespect Cut- Throat, but this post should have been killed a long time ago. Just get a set of snow tires premounted on wheels and switch them as you need to. Monitor, please eliminate this item , problem solved.


Sorry, Dude, but you don't have to use snow tires for a month or so of driving a Genesis in it. There are a few models of All Season Tires that work great!! But, you do have to know how to drive a RWD vehicle.

So, you are clearly mis-informed.
 
Sorry, Dude, but you don't have to use snow tires for a month or so of driving a Genesis in it. There are a few models of All Season Tires that work great!! But, you do have to know how to drive a RWD vehicle.

So, you are clearly mis-informed.
OK, your the one who started the post, saying how bad the Genesis is in snow. Now , your saying ,Oh some all season tires are good?You will find that the all season tires which are better in snow are a lot like snow tires. They make excessive noise, have poor wear qualities and are still a compromise compared to dedicated snow tires. Your telling me how to drive RWD , obviously from your first post , you would know dedicated snow tires are the solution . Ive driven in the north east most of my life , most of the time in RWD cars .I will accept the fact that you learned there are better all season tires than what you had . Did you take these tires on the same condition in which you posted. Tire noise is a frequent complaint here, Im sure these better all season tires , especially after a few miles will become a major irritation. I understand your situation, I live in Florida now. The way you worded your first post , there is really no good answer--- you know this. Also even the best all season tires are not good performance tires. So if you have a solution ,good, if not start a new post and ask for help. All the best
 
Seems like there are two schools of thought: Those who swear by winter tires (with Blizzak and Michelin X-Ice Xi2s getting good reviews in the thread) who maintain that "once you've put on a dedicated winter tire, you'll never go back" vs. those who don't want the hassle of switching tires/wheels and go with an A/S tire along with slapping a couple hundred pounds in the trunk.

(Is it just me or has the forum gotten a lot meaner in the last couple of years? One of the things I liked about it was how friendly and helpful everyone was. There seems to be quite a bit of snideness and snark as of late..)
 
I suppose when all the Gennys were new, we were more friendly. As our Gennys age, we become less tolerant. Not me tho, my Genny is only 3.5 months old. We will see how I am in 2 years. lol
 
I live in Canada, always have. IMHO If you want the safest ride for yourself, your family and others on the road, you need a set of snow tires. Period. I dont care how talented you are at driving a RWD car, a snow tire is better and safer. Any AS tire in winter is a compromise, and a chance I'm not willing to take with my family, my car and others on the road.

There are plenty of real world tests that provide undisputable proof that winter tires are better, its not a matter of opinion or talent, its simple fact.
 
(Is it just me or has the forum gotten a lot meaner in the last couple of years? One of the things I liked about it was how friendly and helpful everyone was. There seems to be quite a bit of snideness and snark as of late..)

It seems to go through cycles, at least that is what I have observed throughout the last six years, (especially around spring & fall!)...
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I live in Canada, always have. IMHO If you want the safest ride for yourself, your family and others on the road, you need a set of snow tires. Period. I dont care how talented you are at driving a RWD car, a snow tire is better and safer. Any AS tire in winter is a compromise, and a chance I'm not willing to take with my family, my car and others on the road.

There are plenty of real world tests that provide undisputable proof that winter tires are better, its not a matter of opinion or talent, its simple fact.

And no one said that AS tires were as good as snow tires. Period.

But if you really wanted to be safe for your family, your car and others, you would give up driving in snow altogether. By either moving to a warm climate or to forego driving in winter. No tire is going to save you if the weather gets bad enough or someone else driving too fast for conditions plows into you.

I have lived in Minnesota All my Life - 63 years and Our biggest problem here is people driving way too fast for conditions. They can get going with their snow tires and 4 wheel drive allright, but they have no idea how long it takes to stop on an icy road.

There are plenty of times in the winter where the Highway patrol just closes roads and you cannot drive at all. And if you try to venture out with your monster 4 wheel drive and they catch you, you'll get a steep ticket.
 
I tried 1st gear

A rear-wheel drive high-horsepower vehicle is always going to be a challenge on slippery surfaces but you do NOT want to use a low gear to get going. My old Ford Galaxie (yes, in the early 60's) had an option to start out in 2nd (of 3 speeds) for this purpose. I don't think the Genny does so you may be screwed but if you can find a way to select 2nd or even 3rd gear to start it should help.
 
You can put it in manual, lift your foot from the brake without pressing the throttle and kick up to 3rd gear. If it doesn't let you, just press the throttle a little bit so it gains some rpm.
 
A rear-wheel drive high-horsepower vehicle is always going to be a challenge on slippery surfaces but you do NOT want to use a low gear to get going. My old Ford Galaxie (yes, in the early 60's) had an option to start out in 2nd (of 3 speeds) for this purpose. I don't think the Genny does so you may be screwed but if you can find a way to select 2nd or even 3rd gear to start it should help.

You certainly can. Put it in manual/sport mode and change to the second gear (works both in the 4.6 & the R-Spec - YMMV)
 
While I haven't stepped up to extra wheels and winter tires yet for the Genesis, I did do that on a 2004 Mercury Marauder. In snow or on ice, it was a better, safer car to drive than my wife's Explorer on AS tires.

Now that I'm retired, I don't have to drive if the conditions are bad.
 
You certainly can. Put it in manual/sport mode and change to the second gear (works both in the 4.6 & the R-Spec - YMMV)
+1. This also works with the 3.8 / 8 speed auto.
 
You certainly can. Put it in manual/sport mode and change to the second gear (works both in the 4.6 & the R-Spec - YMMV)

Also works great for a fast take off from the red light, when road is dry.
 
Also works great for a fast take off from the red light, when road is dry.

+1 especially useful when one has the wireless ESC Mod. is engaged with full engine power on tap :D... (Its coming)
 
You certainly can. Put it in manual/sport mode and change to the second gear (works both in the 4.6 & the R-Spec - YMMV)

Thanks for the tip. As you might know, I live in Phoenix so don't have much use for driving tips in the snow. :)
 
I never said that the Conti's had traction like a winter tire. Re-read my posts.

With that said, I have used all season tires in Minnesota for the last 25 years. You have to know how to drive. Most of the accidents I see are 4 wheel drive vehicles that are driving too fast for conditions.

Have you ever considered the Nokian WR G3's... would you say I get the Conti DWS over those or should I give the Nokains a shot, they are an all weather with the severe snowflake and mountain rating... I live in Shakopee, Minnesota.. nervous about my first minnesota winter with my genny.
 
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