2016 Genesis sedan brakes 3.8

[Nikgen]

IMO, Hyundai Genesis AWD (unlike most others) burns up too much extra gas for use in warm climates. But if someone has a very steep driveway, that would be a different consideration.

Really? The difference in fuel economy between the V6 and the V6 AWD is only 3 mpg combined (19 vs 22 mpg). By that twisted logic, no one in warm climates should own the V8 or any high performance car? BTW - AWD provides handling and ride benefits on every surface - not just steep driveways!

 

[trespinosranch]

Really? The difference in fuel economy between the V6 and the V6 AWD is only 3 mpg combined (19 vs 22 mpg). By that twisted logic, no one in warm climates should own the V8 or any high performance car? BTW - AWD provides handling and ride benefits on every surface - not just steep driveways!

In my 150 miles of ownership I've averaged 22 mpg (while keeping the RPM's up there). I was expecting around 17 mpg. I'm very happy!

 

[tmiami]

I took delivery of a 3.8 AWD Ultimate yesterday and I've put about 150 miles on it. I notice the vehicle shuddering when using moderate braking. Also, I have a vibration/shuddering when I hit 80 mph on the freeway. Car had 24 miles on it when I purchased it.


I also have windshield distortion (in front of driver), but that's another subject.

Check out my earlier post on this site. Sounds like we had same issue and they fixed mine, no more problems.

 

[Mark_888]

Really? The difference in fuel economy between the V6 and the V6 AWD is only 3 mpg combined (19 vs 22 mpg). By that twisted logic, no one in warm climates should own the V8 or any high performance car? BTW - AWD provides handling and ride benefits on every surface - not just steep driveways!

You live in NJ, and have no reasonable choice but to get AWD if you want to drive every day. Quit making excuses.

Yes, AWD provides better handling and ride benefits, but most manufacturers have implemented AWD with only a 1 MPG penalty. I just think the Genesis H-Track AWD 3 MPG combinded penalty (4 MPG highway) is too much considering the excellent ECS and traction control on the Genesis RWD (except on snow).

 

[Nikgen]

You live in NJ, and have no reasonable choice but to get AWD if you want to drive every day. Quit making excuses.

Yes, AWD provides better handling and ride benefits, but most manufacturers have implemented AWD with only a 1 MPG penalty. I just think the Genesis H-Track AWD 3 MPG combinded penalty (4 MPG highway) is too much considering the excellent ECS and traction control on the Genesis RWD (except on snow).

Excuses for what? I'm just saying that discounting an AWD Genesis because YOU are not happy with the mileage penalty is silly (though you are the guy who blends gas grades at the pump...). BTW, I also don't need AWD to drive everyday in NJ and survived without it until the Genesis - but having now driven an AWD for almost 2 years, I do like it and enjoy its benefits year-round: rain, snow, ice or sun.

Gas is cheap these days so, at least for now, it's not even a significant issue, cost-wise! Hyundai also appears to have underestimated fuel economy, esp on the highway - while only rated at 25 mpg, I've gotten as high as 32 mpg on highway only stretches (doing 70-75 mph). That works for me!

 

[jsmit86]

City/Highway/Combined (Rear Wheel Drive) 18 / 29 / 22
City/Highway/Combined (All Wheel Drive) 16 / 25 / 19

Chrysler 300 is 2 MPG combined hit for AWD. vs. 3 for the Genesis.

Who has a Combined 1 MPG hit for a car of this size?

 

[trespinosranch]

City/Highway/Combined (Rear Wheel Drive) 18 / 29 / 22
City/Highway/Combined (All Wheel Drive) 16 / 25 / 19

Chrysler 300 is 2 MPG combined hit for AWD. vs. 3 for the Genesis.

Who has a Combined 1 MPG hit for a car of this size?

My 3.8 AWD is still brand new, but I've filled up 3 times and did manual calculations as to my mpg. I've gotten 20.89, 17.9, and 20.1 mpg (very close to the vehicle computer display). More than half of miles driven were city driving.

I really don't like that the computer display resets every time you fill up. I'd rather be able to see a running average for my total miles driven.

I'm very happy with my results. I was expecting 15 mpg, the way I drive (heavy foot).

 

[lobsenza]

You can change the display so it does not reset with evey fillup. I forget where it is, but somewhere in the settings.

 

[Nikgen]

I really don't like that the computer display resets every time you fill up. I'd rather be able to see a running average for my total miles.

You can turn off the "fuel economy auto reset " in the menus on the main LCD display in the instrument cluster. It's detailed on page 3-79 of the manual under "other features".

 

[trespinosranch]

You can change the display so it does not reset with evey fillup. I forget where it is, but somewhere in the settings.

Thanks, I will find it and set it.

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[Mark_888]

Excuses for what? I'm just saying that discounting an AWD Genesis because YOU are not happy with the mileage penalty is silly (though you are the guy who blends gas grades at the pump...). BTW, I also don't need AWD to drive everyday in NJ and survived without it until the Genesis - but having now driven an AWD for almost 2 years, I do like it and enjoy its benefits year-round: rain, snow, ice or sun.

Gas is cheap these days so, at least for now, it's not even a significant issue, cost-wise! Hyundai also appears to have underestimated fuel economy, esp on the highway - while only rated at 25 mpg, I've gotten as high as 32 mpg on highway only stretches (doing 70-75 mph). That works for me!

I checked some Hyundai dealers near me (warm weather area, with one or two snow days per year on average) to see how many new AWD Genesis they have in stock:

• Dealer A - 31 Genesis sedan in stock, 30 RWD, 1 AWD
• Dealer B - 12 Genesis sedan in stock, 12 RWD, 0 AWD
• Dealer C - 14 Genesis sedan in stock, 14 RWD, 0 AWD
• Dealer D - 26 Genesis sedan in stock, 26 RWD, 0 AWD

So it's not just me who thinks the Hyundai H-Track is not worth it in warm climates. If it were a 1 MPG penalty (as is case with most other manufacturer AWD) that would be a different story, but 4 MPG penalty on the highway is too much if one doesn't need it, IMO.

Also, the fact that HMA did not import any 5.0 AWD models, just goes to show that gas mileage is a factor in many people's decision making.

 

[trespinosranch]

I checked some Hyundai dealers near me (warm weather area, with one or two snow days per year on average) to see how many new AWD Genesis they have in stock:

• Dealer A - 31 Genesis sedan in stock, 30 RWD, 1 AWD
• Dealer B - 12 Genesis sedan in stock, 12 RWD, 0 AWD
• Dealer C - 14 Genesis sedan in stock, 14 RWD, 0 AWD
• Dealer D - 26 Genesis sedan in stock, 26 RWD, 0 AWD

So it's not just me who thinks the Hyundai H-Track is not worth it in warm climates. If it were a 1 MPG penalty (as is case with most other manufacturer AWD) that would be a different story, but 4 MPG penalty on the highway is too much if one doesn't need it, IMO.

Also, the fact that HMA did not import any 5.0 AWD models, just goes to show that gas mileage is a factor in many people's decision making.

My vehicle had to come from Ohio...I'm in Columbus, GA. I was willing to wait for the delivery to get the car I wanted. When I buy a $48k car, I'm not worried about gas mileage. If I was, I would have got a Civic.

 

[Genesisimo]

I checked some Hyundai dealers near me (warm weather area, with one or two snow days per year on average) to see how many new AWD Genesis they have in stock:

• Dealer A - 31 Genesis sedan in stock, 30 RWD, 1 AWD
• Dealer B - 12 Genesis sedan in stock, 12 RWD, 0 AWD
• Dealer C - 14 Genesis sedan in stock, 14 RWD, 0 AWD
• Dealer D - 26 Genesis sedan in stock, 26 RWD, 0 AWD

So it's not just me who thinks the Hyundai H-Track is not worth it in warm climates. If it were a 1 MPG penalty (as is case with most other manufacturer AWD) that would be a different story, but 4 MPG penalty on the highway is too much if one doesn't need it, IMO.

Also, the fact that HMA did not import any 5.0 AWD models, just goes to show that gas mileage is a factor in many people's decision making.

Though one might not guess it from my politics, I personally think that gas mileage matters, for both economic and environmental reasons. So I elected to lease the 3.8 RWD version. So far, I'm getting around 20-22 mpg in mixed driving on city streets and hopelessly oversold SoCal freeways. Chevron 87 octane.

I'm hopeful that there will be a hybrid Genesis by the time this lease is up. My #2 choice was a Lexus ES300h. By conventional reckoning, I could easily afford to waste money on excess gas. But why would anyone do that?

 

[Mark_888]

My vehicle had to come from Ohio...I'm in Columbus, GA. I was willing to wait for the delivery to get the car I wanted. When I buy a $48k car, I'm not worried about gas mileage. If I was, I would have got a Civic.

Yes, I understand your position. But apparently the market does not agree with you, since you had to get delivery from Ohio.

 

[Nikgen]

Though one might not guess it from my politics, I personally think that gas mileage matters, for both economic and environmental reasons. So I elected to lease the 3.8 RWD version. So far, I'm getting around 20-22 mpg in mixed driving on city streets and hopelessly oversold SoCal freeways. Chevron 87 octane.

I'm hopeful that there will be a hybrid Genesis by the time this lease is up. My #2 choice was a Lexus ES300h. By conventional reckoning, I could easily afford to waste money on excess gas. But why would anyone do that?

Hard to take your coments seriously as, if gas mileage truly mattered to you, you would not be driving ANY Genesis model since they all have relatively poor fuel economy by today's standards.

 

[kn5owa]

Hard to take your coments seriously as, if gas mileage truly mattered to you, you would not be driving ANY Genesis model since they all have relatively poor fuel economy.

I have two Hyundai cars: as noted in my footer.

Mileage is good on my 10 year old Sonata - my city car.

But the mileage on my Genesis 5.0 is really surprisingly good - around 27 mpg on the open highway. I use premium gas and the 8 speed xmsn does the rest.

And it will easily hit the advertised 0-60 mph in 5 secs. - Without sports mode.

*** maybe it's a history problem - the 5.0 is really a 307 mill - and 307's used to get 10-15 mpg.

 

[Nikgen]

By conventional reckoning, I could easily afford to waste money on excess gas. But why would anyone do that?

BTW - I put about 10,000 miles on my car in a year. If one assumes it's mixed driving then the 3.8 RWD gets 22 mpg and the 3.8 AWD gets 19 mpg according to Hyundai. So that means:

• RWD uses 455 gallons of gas
• AWD uses 526 gallons of gas

So I'd use 71 more gallons of fuel with AWD. Gas around here is currently $1.72 per galion for regular, so that means a whooping $122 in additional fuel spend. I'll deal with that for the benefits of AWD. Of course, that's just me and to each, his own...

 

[Nikgen]

I have two Hyundai cars: as noted in my footer.

Mileage is good on my 10 year old Sonata - my city car.

But the mileage on my Genesis 5.0 is really surprisingly good - around 27 mpg on the open highway. I use premium gas and the 8 speed xmsn does the rest.

And it will easily hit the advertised 0-60 mph in 5 secs. - Without sports mode.

*** maybe it's a history problem - the 5.0 is really a 307 mill - and 307's used to get 10-15 mpg.

Was not directed at you - was about the environmental comment. If one is concerned about environmental impact of fuel economy differences between the RWD vs AWD, then one should not buy a Genesis in the first place as there are MANY more fuel efficient vehicles one could choose.

 

[Mark_888]

Hard to take your coments seriously as, if gas mileage truly mattered to you, you would not be driving ANY Genesis model since they all have relatively poor fuel economy by today's standards.

I think it would be best if you made your own decisions, and let others make theirs, without you telling them how to decide.

Near where I live, 95%+ of the 2G Genesis sedans sold have been RWD. The customers have spoken.

 

[Nikgen]

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I think it would be best if you made your own decisions, and let others make theirs, without you telling them how to decide.

Pot, meet kettle... and I'm not telling people how to decide: I'm just giving them info to correct fallacies that might help them decide.

Near where I live, 95%+ of the 2G Genesis sedans sold have been RWD. The customers have spoken.

No one said, people don't buy more RWD's. The point was that the difference in fuel economy and associated cost that you were harping on are pretty much negligible for most and AWD does deliver benefits beyond just handing in snow for those who might care. Maybe you'll eventually get those points?