What things don't you like in the G70?

[TOGuy242]

One thing I really wish was an option (and it might be, I'm not sure but haven't heard anything about it):

I wish the 3.3T Sport (the G70 I'm most interested in) would come with an option for Michelin All-Season tires instead of the Summers. I know the Pilot Sport 4 tires are one of the best but I really am going to need All-Seasons where I live. The only reason I want this is because I don't want to have to deal with finding snow tires and or wheels that fit, or buying them from Genesis for more money. I would rather just have the car come with All-Seasons and be done with it.

As it stands, if it only comes with the Pilot Sport 4 tires I'll consider looking to buy All-Seasons immediately and sell the Pilot Sport 4 tires while they're still very "new"...

And that was one of the big draws for me: I'm not a huge fan of "all season" tires. Every other car I looked at that had all-seasons I figured I'd need to get BOTH a summer and winter tire setup! With the 3.3T Sport I only needed to get the winters ... which I ended up just ordering from Genesis to keep it simple, the cost of the rims and tires were pretty reasonable.

 

[Beefer]

One thing I really wish was an option (and it might be, I'm not sure but haven't heard anything about it):

I wish the 3.3T Sport (the G70 I'm most interested in) would come with an option for Michelin All-Season tires instead of the Summers. I know the Pilot Sport 4 tires are one of the best but I really am going to need All-Seasons where I live. The only reason I want this is because I don't want to have to deal with finding snow tires and or wheels that fit, or buying them from Genesis for more money. I would rather just have the car come with All-Seasons and be done with it.

As it stands, if it only comes with the Pilot Sport 4 tires I'll consider looking to buy All-Seasons immediately and sell the Pilot Sport 4 tires while they're still very "new"...

I'm in the same boat. Do not want to deal with both. We don't get much snow in VA...but it does seem to be getting more and more. Regardless...high perf summer tires suck in evan 1" of snow.

So I will get all-seasonals as well...and sell the brand new Pilots. Wonder if they will be hard to sell because of the front/rear offset.

 

[kmooney4]

I'm in the same boat. Do not want to deal with both. We don't get much snow in VA...but it does seem to be getting more and more. Regardless...high perf summer tires suck in evan 1" of snow.

So I will get all-seasonals as well...and sell the brand new Pilots. Wonder if they will be hard to sell because of the front/rear offset.

In Maryland, same thing. I probably could get away with summers year-round, but why take the risk? All-seasons will give me more peace of mind.... I was thinking the same thing unfortunately about difficulty selling them because of the offsets.

Best bet might be to try and convince the Genesis dealership to buy them. Might not get as good a price than if you were to sell them yourself on ebay or Craiglist but I imagine it would almost certainly be easier.

 

[kmooney4]

@Beefer ... found these on tirerack.com. Used 225/40R19 for front and 255/35R19 for rear...

 

[Beefer]

@Beefer ... found these on tirerack.com. Used 225/40R19 for front and 255/35R19 for rear...

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Oh wow. Where does it say they are used? And how much they have been used.

 

[kmooney4]

Oh wow. Where does it say they are used? And how much they have been used.

No those are new... That's a pretty reasonable price to me. Add in mounting and balancing and you're looking at around $950 probably.

As for selling the Summer ones: my father right now is buying a Ford Fiesta ST and it comes with summer tires that run around $800 a set I believe. He is selling them online and the dealer said he could expect to get around $400 for them. so about half.

given that, a new set of the Pilot Sports that come on the G70 are around $1,150; so selling them online you might expect to get around $550 for them give or take.

SO --> $950 on the rim for the all-seasons minus $550 for selling the summers puts you at $400 for the whole project. Not too shabby in my mind. Hell of a lot cheaper than buying a whole new set of winter tires and wheels!!!!!!!

 

[Beefer]

No those are new... That's a pretty reasonable price to me. Add in mounting and balancing and you're looking at around $950 probably.

As for selling the Summer ones: my father right now is buying a Ford Fiesta ST and it comes with summer tires that run around $800 a set I believe. He is selling them online and the dealer said he could expect to get around $400 for them. so about half.

given that, a new set of the Pilot Sports that come on the G70 are around $1,150; so selling them online you might expect to get around $550 for them give or take.

SO --> $950 on the rim for the all-seasons minus $550 for selling the summers puts you at $400 for the whole project. Not too shabby in my mind. Hell of a lot cheaper than buying a whole new set of winter tires and wheels!!!!!!!

Absolutely

 

[devellis]

Yeah, about half of the new price sounds right for take-offs. I worked at a Cadillac dealership many moons ago and at the time, they sold a lot of specialty tires. If the customer opted for the tire upgrade, and many did, the originals were taken off before the car was delivered to the customer and were available for purchase. The take-offs weren't new, strictly speaking, because they'd been driven from the freight yard to the dealership (maybe 15 miles, as I recall). So they couldn't be sold as new and thus had instantly lost a chunk of their original value. The credit the customer got for the take-offs (although it wasn't presented that way to them) was essentially about half their value. As far as the customer was concerned, they were merely paying X additional dollars for the tire upgrade. But it was all happening through an independent franchise located within the dealership. The take-offs were essentially sold to the franchiser, who deducted their value from the retail cost of the replacement tires and then resold them at a profit (but for less than new equivalent tires). The purchaser got better tires but was subsidizing the tire dealer's profit and the take-ff buyer's discount. Doing it all privately would have cost them less but would have been an enormous hassle that most Cadillac buyers at the time really weren't likely to take on.

The downside of doing it privately is that the buyer doesn't have the assurance of a reputable dealership concerning the history of the tires. Maybe people could keep a careful record of when precisely the tires were swapped and get the tire dealer to initial a document that specifies the car's mileage when the transfer took place (or perhaps that would be on the receipt obtained when the new tires were purchased and mounted). Documentation might reassure the new buyer.

 

[Edmguy]

I have two new complaints to add to my list (and one I am hoping someone can tell me I am just doing something wrong...):

1. Can't lock the doors with the engine running! Is this really the case? I will give you the situation - I had my RV on the driveway blocking one side of the garage, so my car was on the driveway and the Jeep was in the garage. I needed the Jeep so I got in the G70, started it, backed it onto the street, got out, went to lock the doors (as I was going to back the Jeep out of the garage and then put the G70 into the garage) and I couldn't lock them! Not with the key or the button on the door handle. There are times like this where I think it is silly to turn the car off for the 30-60 seconds just to turn it back on and I am also paranoid so would like to lock the doors, but it is really not possible to lock the doors when the car is running? Someone please tell me this isn't the case!

2. Now this is more of a Genesis thing than just the G70 - my car just hit 3 months old and the free satelite radio and traffic is up. 3 months only? My wifes Jeep came with 12 months (I guess hers did cost more money but in general it is a "lower end" brand). I just think they could have splurged for 6 or 12 months.

Again, both things above a minor issues and more just pet peeves like basically everything else in this thread so far. In general this is still a great little car and I have zero regrets or buyers remorse.

I don't have anything to dislike yet at about 4500kms. I do have to replace my windshield due to a stone I caught on the highway, but that is not the cars fault.

Have you got a price yet to replace the windshield? My experience with other cars are that the first year or two for a brand new model that doesn't share a windshield with any other car is that it is going to be EXPENSIVE!

I find I have to buy a new windshield for each car pretty much every spring due to the winters and all the sand and gravel. Wondering what I should expect to pay next spring.

 

[kmooney4]

I have two new complaints to add to my list (and one I am hoping someone can tell me I am just doing something wrong...):

1. Can't lock the doors with the engine running! Is this really the case? I will give you the situation - I had my RV on the driveway blocking one side of the garage, so my car was on the driveway and the Jeep was in the garage. I needed the Jeep so I got in the G70, started it, backed it onto the street, got out, went to lock the doors (as I was going to back the Jeep out of the garage and then put the G70 into the garage) and I couldn't lock them! Not with the key or the button on the door handle. There are times like this where I think it is silly to turn the car off for the 30-60 seconds just to turn it back on and I am also paranoid so would like to lock the doors, but it is really not possible to lock the doors when the car is running? Someone please tell me this isn't the case!

2. Now this is more of a Genesis thing than just the G70 - my car just hit 3 months old and the free satelite radio and traffic is up. 3 months only? My wifes Jeep came with 12 months (I guess hers did cost more money but in general it is a "lower end" brand). I just think they could have splurged for 6 or 12 months.

Again, both things above a minor issues and more just pet peeves like basically everything else in this thread so far. In general this is still a great little car and I have zero regrets or buyers remorse.



Have you got a price yet to replace the windshield? My experience with other cars are that the first year or two for a brand new model that doesn't share a windshield with any other car is that it is going to be EXPENSIVE!

I find I have to buy a new windshield for each car pretty much every spring due to the winters and all the sand and gravel. Wondering what I should expect to pay next spring.

So for the locking the doors while the engine is running: how would you get back into the car? You need to have the key in the car for the engine to be running. From what we were discussing earlier there is no way to lock the keys in the car at any time, whether the engine is running or not!

As for the satellite radio, 3 months is a bit disappointing. But if you navigate through Sirius' customer service, you can get Sirius for $5/month. Here's how: whenever mine is about to expire I call customer service and tell them I want to cancel my Sirius. They ask why. I tell them it's too expensive and I'll just pursue other options. They say that's too bad and offer me $100/12 months. I again say no that's too much money for radio. They then counter with $50/6 months (yes, that is the exact same rate as the previous offer). I again say no that's too much money and ask if there is any way that I can get the special $30/6 months rate I've had in the past. They say hold on, and 1 minute later come on and say yes that offer is available. I say thank you and have Sirius for $5/month! Disclaimer: be sure to remember to either do this a day or two before your service will expire or go online and remove your credit card from your account; otherwise Sirius will charge you like $15/month for 12 months automatically!!!

PS - simple solution to this; keep the G70 in the garage!! forget putting the Jeep in the garage, then when you back the Jeep out to get the G70 from the garage, who cares if the jeep gets stolen, its your wife's and a jeep not a G70!!.... kidding, obviously

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[Edmguy]

So for the locking the doors while the engine is running: how would you get back into the car? You need to have the key in the car for the engine to be running. From what we were discussing earlier there is no way to lock the keys in the car at any time, whether the engine is running or not!

I would get back into the car because the key is in my pocket where it always is...

You need the key inside the car to start it, but you can take the key out after that and the car doesn't just turn off. Same thing with others cars with proximity keys.

This is the 7th vehicle I have owned with a proximity key and push button start and the first one where I can't lock the car with the engine running (and key with me). It just seems odd. I get that it should be smart enough not to lock when the key is in the car, but it should be fine when you take it out.

 

[kmooney4]

I would get back into the car because the key is in my pocket where it always is...

You need the key inside the car to start it, but you can take the key out after that and the car doesn't just turn off. Same thing with others cars with proximity keys.

This is the 7th vehicle I have owned with a proximity key and push button start and the first one where I can't lock the car with the engine running (and key with me). It just seems odd. I get that it should be smart enough not to lock when the key is in the car, but it should be fine when you take it out.

My 2015 F-150 allows me to lock the key in the truck, but only because it has keypad entry on the door. Otherwise if I try to remove the key from inside the truck while it is running it will beep at me and tell me to return the key to the truck. I've never tried it but I would assume it will shut the engine off if I keep the key away for so long.

This is smart to me because why would the car run without the key in it? Can you drive the car without the key? How long will it stay running without the key? Again, another reason for more automakers to start including keypad access on the outside...

 

[Edmguy]

My 2015 F-150 allows me to lock the key in the truck, but only because it has keypad entry on the door. Otherwise if I try to remove the key from inside the truck while it is running it will beep at me and tell me to return the key to the truck. I've never tried it but I would assume it will shut the engine off if I keep the key away for so long.

This is smart to me because why would the car run without the key in it? Can you drive the car without the key? How long will it stay running without the key? Again, another reason for more automakers to start including keypad access on the outside...

Your F150 will allow you to lock the door with the engine running and the key in your pocket. Either using the door handle or the key fob. Like I mentioned, this is the first car I have owned that can't do that.

Like in the example above, sometimes you need to get out of the car for short period of time and don't want to turn off the car just to turn it back on in say 30-60 seconds. Winter time in minus 30 is another time when this is really useful.

 

[R.K.]

Your F150 will allow you to lock the door with the engine running and the key in your pocket. Either using the door handle or the key fob. Like I mentioned, this is the first car I have owned that can't do that.

Like in the example above, sometimes you need to get out of the car for short period of time and don't want to turn off the car just to turn it back on in say 30-60 seconds. Winter time in minus 30 is another time when this is really useful.

Winter is absolutely when you want to be able to do this. When it's -35 Celcius and you need to pop into a store for 5 minutes, it's nice to come back to a toasty warm car.

 

[R.K.]

Cruise needs to be on first. Try again, it will work.

Got it to work - Cruise Control needs to be on, but not engaged.

 

[devellis]

I think the reasons manufacturers make it difficult to lock the keys in the car is because owners will far more often do it unintentionally than intentionally. I've seen a couple of instances I can recall of people going pretty nuts because they'd accidentally locked their keys in a car with the engine running. Police had to be called to get the door opened for them. Of course, if they had a keypad on the door, that problem would have been avoided, but most cars don't. Manufacturers likely catch some grief from customers when these lock-outs with the engine running happen. Having an elaborate work-around, like the cruise control method described above, is a good idea. (To be honest, if I were the manufacturer, I'd make it even a bit trickier.) It lets someone lock the keys in if they're dedicated enough to find and employ the method but pretty much makes it impossible, or at least very unlikely, to do by accident.

 

[R.K.]

I think the reasons manufacturers make it difficult to lock the keys in the car is because owners will far more often do it unintentionally than intentionally.

That's not really true in northern climates. Leaving the car running and locked is a normal, every day sort of thing during the winter here in Edmonton, AB.

 

[devellis]

That's not really true in northern climates. Leaving the car running and locked is a normal, every day sort of thing during the winter here in Edmonton, AB.

I guess that makes sense. I grew up in Boston, where I don't think it was common, but there's a lot of geography north of there where it well may be.

 

[EdP]

1. Can't lock the doors with the engine running! Is this really the case? I will give you the situation - I had my RV on the driveway blocking one side of the garage, so my car was on the driveway and the Jeep was in the garage. I needed the Jeep so I got in the G70, started it, backed it onto the street, got out, went to lock the doors (as I was going to back the Jeep out of the garage and then put the G70 into the garage) and I couldn't lock them!

2. Now this is more of a Genesis thing than just the G70 - my car just hit 3 months old and the free satelite radio and traffic is up. 3 months only? My wifes Jeep came with 12 months (I guess hers did cost more money but in general it is a "lower end" brand). I just think they could have splurged for 6 or 12 months.

Never thought about it but I tried. No, can't lock the doors. I'm not paranoid enough that I'd want to so it has never been an issue for me. I guess it is a security issue because some idiots would leave the car running where it can be broken into and driven off. Unlike remote start, there are no safeguards built in to kill the engine. It is also illegal to do in some towns in the states because a lot of cars have been stolen in the winter when people warm them up.

I have no idea what kind of agreements car makers have with Sirius XM for trial periods. You can be pretty sure though, you paid for that 12 months in the Jeep. May have been cheaper that way, but no free lunch.

 

[kmooney4]

Never thought about it but I tried. No, can't lock the doors. I'm not paranoid enough that I'd want to so it has never been an issue for me. I guess it is a security issue because some idiots would leave the car running where it can be broken into and driven off. Unlike remote start, there are no safeguards built in to kill the engine. It is also illegal to do in some towns in the states because a lot of cars have been stolen in the winter when people warm them up.

I have no idea what kind of agreements car makers have with Sirius XM for trial periods. You can be pretty sure though, you paid for that 12 months in the Jeep. May have been cheaper that way, but no free lunch.

Also, I know some bigger cities in the US have idle laws... you can only idle a car for 10-15 minutes max depending on the city... not allowing someone to lock the doors with it running obviously helps prevent idling as people are less inclined to leave a running car unlocked