Genesis GV70 Reviews

[Backslack]

Sure, but that shared platform doesn’t really matter when you’re the best performing compact SUV. Also, last time I checked Porsche navigation didn’t show me where all the VW dealers were at. Little details.

Nice goalpost moving. The Telluride infotainment is newer and blows away the dinosaur in the Porsche, but I don't see you mentioning that when you disparage the GV70 for having some variant of it.

Having the more dated platform also has other downsides as others have mentioned- the Macan is easily one of if not the most cramped vehicle in this segment.

 

[stsk]

Incredibly ironic statement. You are aware that the Macan shares the same platform as a cheapo last-gen Audi A4, dating back to 2007?

German badge snobs have the most hilarious double standards.

Something I wrote on a different thread seems appropriate here: "it appears there are several non-owners (a few are quite articulate) who are here to troll the board. They amplify negative comments and create an impression of problems being larger or more numerous than they are in actuality. Be wary when someone who doesn't own a GV70 focuses on amplifying negative comments or "explaining" why they decided to buy a different brand. Recognize it for what it is - trolling, even if it appears well mannered or erudite. They may be unconsciously justifying their own (non-GV70) choice of an Audi or a BMW or Lexus, but it serves little else."

 

[GV70-PA]

I would like to point out the obvious here, as many reviewers have also pointed out, how many SUV buyers expect to track and auto-cross their rigs? Yes, the German cars will out-handle this car. Is that really the point? This is kind of like the magazine arguments people have about 0 - 60 times. My wife bought this and values a smooth quiet ride. If she wants noise and bouncing she can ride shotgun in my Veloster N. There is plenty there in N mode! We have also had a good experience with that dealer and the Hyundai brand, so that makes a difference. She liked the tech and styling over the more stoic German brands and felt this car was more updated over the current Japanese brands. I told her that I would be happy with any Lexus or Acura vehicle. Here we are.

 

[Davep]

Incredibly ironic statement. You are aware that the Macan shares the same platform as a cheapo last-gen Audi A4, dating back to 2007?

German badge snobs have the most hilarious double standards.

Agreed. This is ALL they have to hang their hat on. We could have bought any car at any price point, and after much research, there is little doubt in my mind, the GV70 is the best SUV in its category, regardless of price. I’ll give him that the Mcan is sportier driving, but on an overall basis, the GV70 wins hands-down, as noted by the excellent review above. What’s hilarious is many German cars are no longer even built in Germany.

 

[CyGuy8118]

People realize we are buying an SUV not a race car right? If you are looking to hit corners at 80 mph or taking it to the track you're buying the wrong car.

I totally get that. I was originally replying to a poster who was comparing Macan and GV70 performance.

 

[Davep]

I totally get that. I was originally replying to a poster who was comparing Macan and GV70 performance.

I dont recall any poster saying the GV70 performs/drives sportier than the Macan. A big negative for us was that both the front and rear seats felt cramped. Also, to get anything similar to the smooth ride of the GV70, you’re going to have to get air suspension.

 

[Backslack]

I totally get that. I was originally replying to a poster who was comparing Macan and GV70 performance.

I really don't see what the Telluride infotainment has to do with GV70 performance.

The moment you went "iT's a hYunDai!" you shot your credibility out the window and showed your true colors.

 

[ottawa]

I'm 5 minutes in, and still thinking "get to the point!" I hope he actually has something useful to say other than the GV70 is great. Are all his reviews structured like that?

I have relatives who tell stories that way, it would be so much better to open with the GV70 is great, latest in a series of hits for genesis; over the years I've recommended Hyundai/Kia to approximately 13 family members and they were disappointed... [though I'd be really annoyed if I were #13 and he told me 12 relatives had had bad experiences before me].

 

[CyGuy8118]

I'm 5 minutes in, and still thinking "get to the point!" I hope he actually has something useful to say other than the GV70 is great. Are all his reviews structured like that?

I have relatives who tell stories that way, it would be so much better to open with the GV70 is great, latest in a series of hits for genesis; over the years I've recommended Hyundai/Kia to approximately 13 family members and they were disappointed... [though I'd be really annoyed if I were #13 and he told me 12 relatives had had bad experiences before me].

This is exactly how most of these GV70 reviews have been. SavageGeese did a fairly decent one where they went over the pros and cons pretty well.

The purpose of these reviews is to be critical, not just praise the car endlessly and just brush off deficiencies (or label them as nice quirks, as many of these reviewers do). Not being critical does a disservice to the buyer.

Why does mentioning it’s a Hyundai throw my credibility out? This is the reality, it’s a Hyundai. You literally go into a Hyundai dealership to buy the car.

 

[soulmining]

Nobody is realistically cross-shopping a Macan and a GV70.

Thats an extremely uncompromising statement. I did test drove the Macan and then decided on the GV70. I also currently own a 911 and two NSX's so I do value performance. But performance is not my #1 criteria for buying a SUV, as your statement may suggest otherwise.

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[Backslack]

Why does mentioning it’s a Hyundai throw my credibility out? This is the reality, it’s a Hyundai. You literally go into a Hyundai dealership to buy the car.

Then refer to your beloved Macan as a Volkswagen then when that's reality as well.

Your comments reek of Euro badge snobbery. Claiming that nobody would buy a GV70 over any German car except a Q5 or that the GV70 is just a Hyundai are exactly the type of uneducated comments I would expect from an insecure 13 year old on the YouTube comments section.

These comments have nothing to do with the car and reflect nothing more than your ill-conceived perception of it.

 

[Davep]

This is exactly how most of these GV70 reviews have been. SavageGeese did a fairly decent one where they went over the pros and cons pretty well.

The purpose of these reviews is to be critical, not just praise the car endlessly and just brush off deficiencies (or label them as nice quirks, as many of these reviewers do). Not being critical does a disservice to the buyer.

Why does mentioning it’s a Hyundai throw my credibility out? This is the reality, it’s a Hyundai. You literally go into a Hyundai dealership to buy the car.

Your arguments are meritless. I‘ve have had excellent service at a Hyundai/Genesis dealership and poor service at Mercedes and BMW dealerships. At the Hyundai/Genesis dealership, I was treated liked I had bought their top car, while at the others, I was just one of many.

 

[joeliam]

We did. Almost bought a Macan S. Head to head, the Macan S ride is rougher without air suspension, back seat room is tighter, interior no where near as plush, and has less cargo room. Previous review is spot on.

I am coming off a Porsche Cayenne Hybrid, and was going to go into the Macan until I saw the GV70. Bad experiences with Porsche service, and an interior and sound system that is absolutely outstanding, I went for the Genesis.

Agree about the service being a “lesser” experience, but let me tell you, as a previous Porsche owner, I got gouged every time I wert to the dealer.

 

[shuvo_2000]

One of the key themes of the last few comments is the "Perceived Notion" of badge, quality, and customer service. Some are from experience, some are from reading/hearing people/forums etc. I personally have struggled with this with my wife (she is not well-versed in cars) because her co-workers have told her that they don't know much about Genesis and if it is even a luxury brand. Even one of them who is Lexus biased tried to convince me that Genesis does not have any brand recognition and without a doubt Lexus is a better buy (NX). I have had multiple BMWs before I bought a Hyundai (10 years driving) and the Hyundai for me was the least troublesome of the bunch. I understand that Genesis is not a recognized brand like Lexus, Porche, etc.. But if you look at their last few years, the Hyundai group has made good cars.

Bottom line is that I find when you strictly want to pay for a badge, it is difficult to have a value conversation around it. Because you are no longer comparing apples to apples. The perceived negative notion is there because you are looking at it from a bias you have developed from somewhere. Hence, even in some reviews after GV70 winning is almost all categories, I have heard the reviewer say, "I will stick with so and so". I think the perception will change in the next few years. Meanwhile, for those who purchased the GV70 (including me), let's just enjoy the (hopefully) trouble free ride.

While I did not test drive a Macan, I did research it. I found better value in the Genesis. Similar experience with BMW and Genesis service so far.

 

[ottawa]

I totally get that. I was originally replying to a poster who was comparing Macan and GV70 performance.

I don't know, "no one cross-shops Macan and GV70" seemed like a different claim, and one easily disproved

 

[Lionorion]

Something I wrote on a different thread seems appropriate here: "it appears there are several non-owners (a few are quite articulate) who are here to troll the board. They amplify negative comments and create an impression of problems being larger or more numerous than they are in actuality. Be wary when someone who doesn't own a GV70 focuses on amplifying negative comments or "explaining" why they decided to buy a different brand. Recognize it for what it is - trolling, even if it appears well mannered or erudite. They may be unconsciously justifying their own (non-GV70) choice of an Audi or a BMW or Lexus, but it serves little else."

In the final analysis EVERY forum will have trolls. That’s when the flame wars begin!

So bring it on trolls! I’m ready for a good war! Arrrrgghhh!!! Lol

 

[Lionorion]

I'm 5 minutes in, and still thinking "get to the point!" I hope he actually has something useful to say other than the GV70 is great. Are all his reviews structured like that?

I have relatives who tell stories that way, it would be so much better to open with the GV70 is great, latest in a series of hits for genesis; over the years I've recommended Hyundai/Kia to approximately 13 family members and they were disappointed... [though I'd be really annoyed if I were #13 and he told me 12 relatives had had bad experiences before me].

So what did you think of this review by the conclusion?

 

[Steve-M]

I don't know, "no one cross-shops Macan and GV70" seemed like a different claim, and one easily disproved

I didn’t cross-shop with a Macan because it’s interior & cargo space just isn’t adequate for my purposes. Frankly, the Macan’s 96 cubic feet passenger volume and 17 cubes for cargo is inferior to some subcompact crossovers.

 

[Lionorion]

So what did you think of this review by the conclusion?

For me, I disagree with him on two fronts. One, I love all the drive modes, I think it’s a cool feature! The other item is selling in three years? Huh?

Otherwise I think the reviewer nailed his take on the car.

 

[John Baxter]

https://www.autoguide.com/car-comparisons/genesis-gv70-vs-porsche-macan-comparison

"As an overall package, the GV70 just hits more high notes.

The interior feels special, and the amount of tech would be overwhelming if it wasn’t so user-friendly. That V6 is a hard charger—the gas bills prove it—paired to a well-judged chassis, as capable of shuttling people as it is deconstructing a backroad. That all this comes in for the starting price of the Macan seals it.

The GV70 doesn’t just stand toe-to-toe with the Germans: it can beat them."