2015 Hyundai Genesis Sedan Spy Photos

[NSXNEXT]

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No sunroof

 

[visitor]

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Actung Hyundai! We have yet to see any photos of an upgraded leather dashboard. Hopefully, an upgraded one will be available since many of us totally despise the glaring, reflectives, surfaces of plastic wood.

What plastic wood on the dash? Mines covered in leather... I was under the impression only the barest optioned ones have the fake wood..

 

[Ernie3647]

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No sunroof

I think what we’re looking at is the entry level Genesis. No moon roof, no LED headlights and the wheels are not the same.

 

[visitor]

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I could do without a sunroof personally. Never use it, and it only takes away headroom (not that this generation genesis is lacking that currently)

 

[RSPEC429]

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It looks to have a pano roof instead of the smaller, normal roof

 

[PMCErnie]

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What plastic wood on the dash? Mines covered in leather... I was under the impression only the barest optioned ones have the fake wood..

So, are you telling us that the spy photos of the 2015 model show the base model interior? Obviously, that is an unknown at this time and that is my point. We do not yet know if the new model will have a leather dash option.

 

[visitor]

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So, are you telling us that the spy photos of the 2015 model show the base model interior? Obviously, that is an unknown at this time and that is my point. We do not yet know if the new model will have a leather dash option.

No, you seem to be unable to comprehend what I said. I asked what fake wood you were referring to on the current gen? Ive never seen a genesis so poorly optioned it had a plastic wood dash, other than in pictures.

 

[visitor]

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I think what we’re looking at is the entry level Genesis. No moon roof, no LED headlights and the wheels are not the same.

This guy, however, IS saying he thinks the pics are base model.

 

[Ernie3647]

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Let me see if I can shed some more light on this statement.
I think what we’re looking at is the entry level Genesis. No moon roof, no LED headlights and the wheels are not the same.
Like PMCErnie said there is no way of positively knowing.
Speculation guys we do a lot of it here.

 

[PMCErnie]

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Yes, obviously we are awaiting wanted pics showing an upgraded dash OTHER than plastic wood. That's the point I was making and I know most readers understood that. Funny how a simple point/question gets twisted. Actung, Hyundai, where are the pics of the non-wood dash models?!

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[deise17311]

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Base models of current genesis models have a fake wood dash...

 

[YEH]

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Those aren't pics of the Genesis.

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While I don't love the new dash design (I like it, just don't love it), it and the rest of the interior looks to be a good step up and more fitting w/ the rest of the midsize, luxury segment (doesn't appear to be as nice as the interior in the Quoris/K9 but that's to be expected since the K9 slots btwn the Genesis and Equus) as opposed to the current set-up which was a bit underwhelming in design and quality of materials (painted plastic switchgear should not be in a midsize, luxury sedan).

A couple of interesting general tidbits.

For those who have been wondering what the breakdown is btwn sedan and coupe in US Genesis sales, last year, Hyundai moved 22,980 Genesis sedans which means the sedan outsold the coupe by a 2:1 ratio.

While I knew that the sedan outsells the coupe, was a bit surprised to see the ratio so heavily in favor of the sedan (thought it was more like 3:2).

As you know, Hyundai's initial sales target for the Genesis sedan was 20k and considering that such no. was set before the economic downturn and the fact that the Genesis sedan was in its 5th year of sale, selling nearly 23k Genesis sedans in 2012 is quite the accomplishment for Hyundai (pretty amazing that the Genesis in its 5th year outsold the new GS in its 1st year and unlike the GS, the Genesis doesn't have available AWD).

Add to that the fact that the Genesis has the highest V-8 take rate in the luxury, midsize segment.

Otoh, always thought the 30k sales goal set for the Genesis coupe was outlandish considering the US market for Asian coupes, but the fact that they sold less than 11k of the coupe last year really shows how much of a miss it was (that ghoulish redesign certainly didn't help).

The new, more luxurious Genesis coupe based on the gorgeous HND-9 concept can't get here fast enough.

The head of design of Hyundai's CA design studio, Chris Chapman, made some interesting comments to Aussie auto publication, CarAdvice.

Hyundai has no plans to launch the Genesis as a separate entity according to the company’s Chief American designer.

Speaking to the Australian media at a tour of the company’s design centre in Irvine, California, Christopher Chapman said Hyundai is not keen on spending the resources required to launch an entirely different brand.

“I don’t think Hyundai is necessarily interested in the billions that it takes to invest in creating a whole separate brand.” Chapman said.

The idea for the Hyundai Genesis, which is confirmed for Australia in coupe form (late 2014, early 2015), is to become an icon rather than a separate brand.

Chapman gave examples of similar cars that have become their own icons. He noted that although a Mustang is technically a Ford Mustang, it’s simply referred to as a Mustang and that there’s no Ford badges to be found on the sportscar.

“People really like the Genesis brand, in this country you almost cant stop them from taking the Genesis badge and putting it in place of the Hyundai badge. So they’ve adopted that, no only the brand but the belief of the brand [and] also down to the logo, they like the name Genesis. It works.”

He is a strong believer that Hyundai can lead with its products without having to create separate brands.

“If you create an object it becomes its own icon. Does the icon come first or does the brand come first? People don’t say Toyota Prius anymore, just Prius. I think that times have changed and its not necessary to [create a separate brand] you lead with the product.”

http://www.caradvice.com.au/240388/hyundai-genesis-to-become-an-icon/


While I'm totally I agreement in Hyundai not launching a separate luxury brand/dealer network as I would rather see Hyundai spend its $$ on expanding its luxury lineup/offerings and think that not having to deal w/ the cost of a separate luxury brand/dealer network is what enables Hyundai to its price advantage against the Japanese in the luxury segment and I get the whole icon argument, not sure if the whole icon thing works if Hyundai is set on expanding its luxury offerings (after all, how many icons can one have and would a luxury CUV or 2 ever be considered an icon?).

There have been reports that Hyundai is working on luxury sedan geared towards women which for around 2015 or so.

Basically talking about a more luxurious midsize/large FWD sedan than the Azera (basically would be a Lexus ES competitor, and maybe the Cadenza since I guess Hyundai can't have Kia outdoing them) and while the report was only talking about the Korean market, can't see Hyundai going thru all this trouble not to bring it to the NA market as well as China (and the Middle East); didn't think Hyundai would do a FWD luxury sedan but I guess the (female) market has spoken.

So, if that indeed is the case, and w/ Hyundai supposedly also working on a RWD compact sports sedan which the new Genesis coupe will be partnered w/ (tho, haven't really heard much about the RK sedan lately) and Hyundai likely to develop one, if not 2 luxury CUVs (considering that the luxury CUV market is big and growing bigger and Kia already having shown a luxury CUV concept, the Cross GT), can't see how the whole icon thing will work w/ such an expanded luxury lineup.

As I stated many a time before, a luxury sub-brand is the way to go (would also help having a badge design more befitting to luxury autos and would put a stop to the whole need for rebadging).

 

[RSPEC429]

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I think that is a good direction for Hyundai to take.

 

[DavidNJ]

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Did one of the interior shots show a touchpad for the nav/phone controller?

Audi has had a touchpad you you could enter digits or letters with your fingers. Easier to do when driving than look at the screen to pick letters.

BMW added it for 2014 on top of the controller wheel, which may or may not be better than Audi's setups. Certainly takes less real estate.

Can anyone determine if the new Genesis has the touchpad?

Then there are questions about adaptive high beams, night vision with spot light, etc.

 

[geneswede]

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Looks like a nice car. More upscale interior, closer to Equus in styling. More bolstered seats. I wonder how much they will bump the price up?

Gen 1 Genesis was clearly a statement. I'm sure they where willing to live with little to no profit margins to establish the "brand" and make a splash. I doubt they want to stay there if they can change it. They still need to be below the other Asian car but I bet this Generation it will be more like $5000-10.000. In return they will provide fewer compromises.

It will be interesting to see how it plays out. I hope they get forced to stay $15.000 below but I doubt that will happen. The Genesis is simply too good of a car for that big of a gap.

 

[Seattle Genesis]

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I sure hope they don't mess this car up. Yes it could use a few refinements and updated styling but they need to ask me first. Lol. 😃

 

[geneswede]

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They seem to mess with the grill a lot. Not sure it will be any better. I hope they don't do the Audi/Lexus path. Keep stealing from Mercedes they know how to make front of cars look good!

Current genesis grill (especially before 2012) tried to copy Mercedes. I think a simple tweak could have made it look even better.

That said let's see where it goes. I'm not in the market for a new cars for another 100.000 miles+ so I have a few years to see it develop. I hope to survive until the G3 version (or a real Chinese brand doing to Hyundai is doing to Lexus who did it to the Germans)

 

[gene]

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[geneswede]

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I have a feeling I won't like the front as much as the current model. Seems to get more aggressive. I like the stateman like Mercedes S series look better (I'm probably in minority).

From the side there seem to be few changes

 

[NSXNEXT]

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Do not like the wheels
Do not like the front grill
Interior is meh