2016 Genesis News?

[ksoze]

The more costly cars tend to have more customers who can go after the manufacturer for defects/headaches due to their typical higher income and possibly even being an attorney.

Two things. Higher end cars are bought by all ranges of income. Leasing today has leveled the affordability to a much larger income demographic. That new 7 series or E550 can just as likely be leased by someone making an average salary as it is a wall street lawyer. A case could also be made someone who can barely afford their car will be just as aggressive towards defects as a high income individual - not so sure Hyundai fears a buyer with a JD any more than any pissed of customer. Social media has helped level that playing field for the consumer.

Not sure why CarPlay has been stalled on the Genesis, but the percent of lower end cars Hyundai sells is in a more competitive and financially important environment where these features can be deal breakers. If the Honda Accord has it, the Sonata better. Bang for the buck makes those cars more of a priority than the slower selling Genesis. CarPlay is not yet shipping in Mercedes or BMW.

 

[Nikgen]

I thought you were going a different way with that....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eeNsPE5XUXA

Why would he when I had already posted that Airplane link a few posts back (twice)...

 

[AustinTX]

Keep in mind that manufacturers are more careful introducing "New technology/software" for their higher end models due to the clients. The more costly cars tend to have more customers who can go after the manufacturer for defects/headaches due to their typical higher income and possibly even being an attorney. Therefore my opinion is they are more cautious with their higher priced models due to this. Personally I'd rather wait to know that it works and I'm in a techology field to see first hand where being first is often times combined with "beta tester".

I agree with most of ksoze's points in his post above, plus I would add that the lower priced cars are more likely purchased/leased by a younger demographic, and the younger generation puts more value on integration with their cell phones.

I see a much bigger emphasis on stereo systems/electronics integration on low end vehicles now than I did even 10 years ago. VW, Honda, Toyota, KIA (Hamsters anyone?) etc. are marketing their stereo systems / mobile device integration very noticeably. For the generation that has grown up with the iPod/iPhone/Android devices and iTunes/Pandora/Spotifly, these things seem to be of much higher value over other features.

I remember changing the stereo in my parents car to one that could play cassette tapes, and later adding a six CD changer. Six CD's of music to choose from = pure luxury - and that was before we had the capability to burn songs onto a CD or play MP3 files. S*it, I'm getting old. My friends 16 year old daughter didn't even know what a cassette tape was until I showed her a few months ago. I showed her the Walkman too (still works, too), to her that's ancient technology.

 

[Aquineas]

<snip>I showed her the Walkman too (still works, too), to her that's ancient technology.

Remember how *good* the audio quality of Walkmans was when they first came out (relatively speaking, I mean)? I was blown away the first time I heard one of those.

 

[PMCErnie]

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Two things. Higher end cars are bought by all ranges of income. Leasing today has leveled the affordability to a much larger income demographic. That new 7 series or E550 can just as likely be leased by someone making an average salary as it is a wall street lawyer. A case could also be made someone who can barely afford their car will be just as aggressive towards defects as a high income individual - not so sure Hyundai fears a buyer with a JD any more than any pissed of customer. Social media has helped level that playing field for the consumer.

Not sure why CarPlay has been stalled on the Genesis, but the percent of lower end cars Hyundai sells is in a more competitive and financially important environment where these features can be deal breakers. If the Honda Accord has it, the Sonata better. Bang for the buck makes those cars more of a priority than the slower selling Genesis. CarPlay is not yet shipping in Mercedes or BMW.

A person who leases a car is often deluding himself/herself into thinking they can afford the car. In actuality, they are often "taking a financial bath." With every subsequent lease they get deeper underwater until they are...glug, glug, glug. The bottom line is that they haven't "leveled affordability," but merely been screwed out of money they could have used for better purposes.

 

[goochylittlepig]

I agree with most of ksoze's points in his post above, plus I would add that the lower priced cars are more likely purchased/leased by a younger demographic, and the younger generation puts more value on integration with their cell phones.

I see a much bigger emphasis on stereo systems/electronics integration on low end vehicles now than I did even 10 years ago. VW, Honda, Toyota, KIA (Hamsters anyone?) etc. are marketing their stereo systems / mobile device integration very noticeably. For the generation that has grown up with the iPod/iPhone/Android devices and iTunes/Pandora/Spotifly, these things seem to be of much higher value over other features.

I agree with this idea, but I also think if Hyundai is trying to attract younger customers (lease or purchase), they would do well to make this feature available to their luxury cars, the Genesis in particular. Obviously a rich old man who was going to buy a $70,000 E Class but decided the Equus or Genesis was a comparatively good value isn't going to care that much.

However, I'm 33, I remember Walkmans and cassettes, but also use my phone constantly, including exclusively for music and navigation in my car. I certainly don't "expect" integration, because I've never had it before. I am excited to use the Pandora app over Bluetooth in the new car. It's just that I was looking more in the Sonata/Maxima (Altima?)/Accord/Camry range, and then realized how the Genesis is priced so well that I could afford to buy that instead. I'm sure Hyundai hopes to attract some customers from that group as well. It's not a dealbreaker for me that there is no Android Auto, but it definitely is a factor for me when deciding between a fully loaded Sonata and a 3.8 RWD Genesis.

 

[Mark_888]

It appears to me that Hyundai has been locked into the Lexicon system for some time now. From a financial standpoint, it is much easier to implement new technologies on a Sonata than on a Genesis, because Hyundai sells 10 times as many Sonatas, and they spread the R&D cost over more cars when they make changes to electronics.

The next time that Hyundai has a chance to change electronics systems on the Genesis, I think you will see all the features available on the other cars. Maybe that will be 2017 or 2018 for the Genesis.

 

[JSwap]

Has anybody heard of the 2016s being delivered on the West Coast? I'm trying to set my expectations on when they will be coming to the Seattle area.

 

[BJCaspianBlack]

Has anybody heard of the 2016s being delivered on the West Coast? I'm trying to set my expectations on when they will be coming to the Seattle area.

I am also waiting in the Pacific Northwest. All the dealers that I have contact with don't seem to have any Idea when they will arrive. I was told by one that the 16's are sitting in Portland waiting for the word to ship. Many dealers still have 10 or so 15's on their lots. I have even been told by one that he won't be able to sell me a car. I won't be waiting forever!

 

[JSwap]

I'm really hoping some stock will be available this year. I sold my truck 4 weeks ago in preparation of purchasing a new vehicle. Luckily my father-in-law let me borrow his 2010 Genesis to see if I really wanted a car (I do) and a Genesis (I do!). But the more I wait the more I start looking at other vehicles including the 2015 - which wouldn't be the end of the world, though it doesn't have a couple things I want in the 2016.

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[BJCaspianBlack]

I sold my 2006 Avalon 3 weeks ago in anticipation of the arrival of the 2016 in November. I hope it does arrive soon so I don't have to go car shopping in December. I miss my sedan!

 

[111cab]

They are showing up. Just picked up mine last Saturday.

 

[goochylittlepig]

They are showing up. Just picked up mine last Saturday.

Only in the Northeast so far. New England, NY, NJ, PA... Someone from corporate told me yesterday that they were just released to the Southeast and it may be 30 days before dealers have full inventories here

 

[PatrickStern]

I went over the weekend to the LA Auto show, they had the 2016 there on display.
So i asked one of their managers of the booth and he pulled up his iPad and showed me that production started in July (South Korea) and it takes sometimes 3 months to get the to the US, but he said he does not see a reason why you can't order your Hyundai yet from any dealer in the country. All he said is that you should skip on going to the sales rep outside the dealers and go straight to the GM of the dealership.

That's all they have told me. But i did see the actual production dates on his iPad that he pulled out and it did say July.

 

[Alwaysforward]

Have you tried doing a search on their website for 2016's?

https://www.hyundaiusa.com/build-your-hyundai/

 

[sabre3]

Ive noticed one sitting in front of the dealer near my house. Just looked it up and its montecito blue and beige 2016 sig package. Looks real nice. Figured it was 2016 since it had fogs in it.

 

[goochylittlepig]

Have you tried doing a search on their website for 2016's?

https://www.hyundaiusa.com/build-your-hyundai/

Every day

 

[JSwap]

I've been doing inventory search every day in my local area with no luck. I'm hesitant to start negotiating with a single dealership without any inventory as I will not have any idea how long I will have to wait before the car is delivered.

 

[jsmit86]

Ive noticed one sitting in front of the dealer near my house. Just looked it up and its montecito blue and beige 2016 sig package. Looks real nice. Figured it was 2016 since it had fogs in it.

I just bought a 2015 in the same color and package.
Where is this 2016? I'd like to compare.

 

[sabre3]

I just bought a 2015 in the same color and package.
Where is this 2016? I'd like to compare.

http://www.visionhyundaiwebster.com...-Genesis-13459d710a0e0adf42d49e9bc8d4781b.htm

Theres a window sticker button on this page also.