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Custom SR Intake for 2012-13 Genesis

zielritter

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I finally broke down and took some of my Christmas money to buy some Spectre modular intake pieces and design/install a custom intake.

It took some time to remove the stock stuff without breaking anything and also I had a do some modification to the Spectre MAF adapter to make it suitable for my IAT/BPS sensor.

All in all I'm pretty pleased with the appearance and it fit (similar shape to AEM and Injen SRIs). It also sounds like a beast at full throttle, but is rather tame the remainder of the time. As you can see too, I left the front grille intake tube in place to catch that cooler air that enters the engine compartment. I'm trying to minimize the amount of engine hot air that I suck in.

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Total waste of money.
Sorry

Care to elaborate or are we just having a bad case of the Mondays?

I can take pictures later but the factory set up is incredibly restrictive. There are two fairly large resonator tanks (bad). It has two intake paths: first is out the front above the grille (good), second is through a tiny tiny opening within the engine bay (bad). The intake tubes are lined with a type of carpeting which I assume lessens noise (bad). There are at least two bends > 90 degrees (bad). There is ribbing in the piece running from the airbox to the tb (bad).

Look, I know I didn't add 50 hp here, but even if the filtering element isn't restrictive in the stock set up the rest of the system is in that it was designed for quietness first and performance second. Even brands like merc and BMW have aftermarket parts that add power because of the compromises made at the factory in designing the stock configuration.
 
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There are always nay-sayers who essentially say "leave your Hyundai" alone as intended by Hyundai. I ignore them.

I applaud what you have done. I am on my third Genesis V8 ('09, '11 and '12 Rspec). In each case I was able to not only increase power using a cone filter at a level I could feel with my seat-of-pants dyno, but also increase gas mileage a bit.

I use only K&N filters. Many of the aftermarket vendors include no-name imitation K&Ns in their kits. I have been using K&Ns since they first came to market. Originally, you were required to oil the K&Ns yourself. Now they come pre-oiled. I probably have more than a half million miles on K&Ns over many years. Never have I seen the urban legend claimed problem of oil transfer to MAF, even when we had to oil the filters ourselves.

Filter size is important. For obvious reasons use the largest filter you can find. I like the K&N #RF1040 which has a 4" mouth
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Most vendors supply a model-specific under hood open airbox, which blocks under hood heat from the the air filter. This is difficult to create yourself, but you can create some heat shields around the exhaust manifold which will help reduce intake air temp.

On my applications I monitored ambient air temp. (dash OEM gauge) with intake air temp. (ScanGauge). Found the usual OEM differential to be in the teens (testing done on highway conditions with the car fully warmed). With a K&N cone and some creative heat shielding/intake air routing I was able to reduce this differential to less than 10 degrees consistently.

It is a good idea to take reasonable steps to reduce under hood heat. One little trick I have done for years not only on Hyundais but any other vehicle I own is to reroute the coolant lines to the throttle body so as not to heat the throttle body. Throttle bodies are "heated" by coolant so as to prevent icing, which can conceivably occur (temporarily) on a cold motor, high humidity, and closed throttle plate. This is a rare condition; and even then the coolant temperature is still fairly low. Don't block the coolant lines - just connect them together.

Another little trick is to change your thermostat to a lower opening temp. Presently, my RSpec runs consistently at 194 degrees; and I think it would run a bit better at a cooler temp say 180-185. Here is a forum comment on the subject by a Genesis coupe owner running a 3.8 like yours: http://www.Genesis Coupe.com/diy-do-yourself/107499-diy-170f-thermostat-mod.html. It is more of a project on a V8.

Someone I am sure will chime in now saying that most power levels are achieved at a much higher coolant temp, say about 220-230F or so. That is true on a dyno or race car where underhood temps are very close to ambient. But in my opinion and in the opinion of many tuners (A. Graham Bell, for instance), more and better on-the-street power is achieved by reducing intake air temperature and under hood temp.
 
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There are always nay-sayers who essentially say "leave your Hyundai" alone as intended by Hyundai. I ignore them.

I applaud what you have done. I am on my third Genesis V8 ('09, '11 and '12 Rspec). In each case I was able to not only increase power using a cone filter at a level I could feel with my seat-of-pants dyno, but also increase gas mileage a bit.

I use only K&N filters. Many of the aftermarket vendors include no-name imitation K&Ns in their kits. I have been using K&Ns since they first came to market. Originally, you were required to oil the K&Ns yourself. Now they come pre-oiled. I probably have more than a half million miles on K&Ns over many years. Never have I seen the urban legend claimed problem of oil transfer to MAF, even when we had to oil the filters ourselves.

Filter size is important. For obvious reasons use the largest filter you can find. I like the K&N #RF1040 which has a 4" mouth
.
Most vendors supply a model-specific under hood open airbox, which blocks under hood heat from the the air filter. This is difficult to create yourself, but you can create some heat shields around the exhaust manifold which will help reduce intake air temp.

On my applications I monitored ambient air temp. (dash OEM gauge) with intake air temp. (ScanGauge). Found the usual OEM differential to be in the teens (testing done on highway conditions with the car fully warmed). With a K&N cone and some creative heat shielding/intake air routing I was able to reduce this differential to less than 10 degrees consistently.

It is a good idea to take reasonable steps to reduce under hood heat. One little trick I have done for years not only on Hyundais but any other vehicle I own is to reroute the coolant lines to the throttle body so as not to heat the throttle body. Throttle bodies are "heated" by coolant so as to prevent icing, which can conceivably occur (temporarily) on a cold motor, high humidity, and closed throttle plate. This is a rare condition; and even then the coolant temperature is still fairly low. Don't block the coolant lines - just connect them together.

Another little trick is to change your thermostat to a lower opening temp. Presently, my RSpec runs consistently at 194 degrees; and I think it would run a bit better at a cooler temp say 180-185. Here is a forum comment on the subject by a Genesis coupe owner running a 3.8 like yours: http://www.Genesis Coupe.com/diy-do-yourself/107499-diy-170f-thermostat-mod.html. It is more of a project on a V8.

Someone I am sure will chime in now saying that most power levels are achieved at a much higher coolant temp, say about 220-230F or so. That is true on a dyno or race car where underhood temps are very close to ambient. But in my opinion and in the opinion of many tuners (A. Graham Bell, for instance), more and better on-the-street power is achieved by reducing intake air temperature and under hood temp.

Thanks, Rey. Yeah, I know people will always doubt - at least one on every forum. I'm on my 4th Hyundai where I done performance modifications. On my Elantra, the naysayers told me I was wasting money with an aftermarket header and that they CEL would never go away. Guess what? Through experimentation I completely eliminated the CEL and posted youtube videos of me doing consistently reproducible 0-60 runs of 7 seconds flat with an NA 2.0l 4-cylinder engine with full exhaust, intake, and crank pulley. This was with the wagon (Touring) variant, btw, which used the ancient Beta iron block.

The TB bypass is something I've always done on my cars too. Most cars today run the coolant through the TB to prevent icing in extremely cold climates. Never had an issue with icing in the Midwest US.

I do need to think of a way to fabricate a custom heat shield for this intake. I know the cold air from the grille intake will help a bit, but I need a fool proof solution. Any simple suggestions are welcome - I have seen filter shields that fit directly onto the cone, but I'm dubious as to be benefit..
 
I had an extra 4" piece lying around from a previous project as well as some brackets. I decided to lengthen my intake slightly and mount it up a little bit. I think it looks very clean now.

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Btw, I tried the coolant bypass shortly after Rey's post and I ended up getting a pool of coolant on my garage floor. Don't know what the deal is because I looked up the shop instructions and disconnected what I thought were the only two water lines running through the TB and linked them together. I guess I'm missing something here.
 
Post link to said parts to make intake?

Sure:

Spectre 8208
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Spectre 8738
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Spectre 8705
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Spectre 8138
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The only modification I had to make was to the MAF adapter piece (8705). The smallest adapter piece was a bit too small for the IAT/BPS sensor to slide into. I simply expanded the diameter a couple MMs with a drill.
 
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Nice pictures, now can I have the links?

Well, sorry. I gave the part numbers above each picture, and thought anyone with access to a PC could take it the last 10 feet to the end zone. The parts can be bought anywhere - Autozone, Advance, Amazon, Jegs, Summitt eBay, etc but since you insist:

From Jegs:
http://www.jegs.com/i/Spectre/865/8208/10002/-1
http://www.jegs.com/i/Spectre/865/8738/10002/-1
http://www.jegs.com/i/Spectre/865/8705/10002/-1
http://www.jegs.com/i/Spectre/865/8138/10002/-1
 
Lol thanks. I am particularly lazy at the moment. Ending my vacation, building my other PC, doing research. So, yea. I was a bit lazy lol. Thank you for the links :)
 
Just wanted to post an update to this thread from way back. I did some reading and came to the conclusion that the Spectre 3" OD intake pipes are too small for our engines and I was probably robbing my self some top end.

I decided to fab myself something up that was closer to the stock intake dimensions and I really like the outcome. I painted it with hi-temp flat black and attached a snorkel to the cone filter which runs up into the stock ram air.

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The intake continues to evolve. I have now ditched the on-filter heat shield in favor of something more functional and integrated.

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Update: I did a "feel" test after my 20 minute drive to work this morning. There was a noticeable difference between the temperature within the heat shield and the outside area on the engine side.

Close up:

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Nice.
 
Great work. I like how you continue to improve on it. Now if someone can make one for the '12 r spec...I would be interested in it.
 
Well, sorry. I gave the part numbers above each picture, and thought anyone with access to a PC could take it the last 10 feet to the end zone. The parts can be bought anywhere - Autozone, Advance, Amazon, Jegs, Summitt eBay, etc but since you insist:

From Jegs:
http://www.jegs.com/i/Spectre/865/8208/10002/-1
http://www.jegs.com/i/Spectre/865/8738/10002/-1
http://www.jegs.com/i/Spectre/865/8705/10002/-1
http://www.jegs.com/i/Spectre/865/8138/10002/-1

+1 - get it in the end zone!
 
Here's the total parts list. It's sloppy, but I should be working right now anyways. ;)

45 degree 3" ID Sch 40 PVC pipes: 2x http://www.lowes.com/pd_23339-1814-PVC+00321++1200_4294935907__?productId=3132755&Ntt=3%22+45&pl=1&currentURL=%3FNtt%3D3%2522%2B45&facetInfo=

Straight 3" ID Sch 40 PVC pipe: 1x http://www.lowes.com/pd_87671-1814-PVC+07300++1000_0__?productId=3581470&Ntt=3+pvc+pipe

PVC 3" flexible coupler: 1x http://www.lowes.com/pd_23475-34146-RC75_0__?productId=1065523&Ntt=flexible+pvc+3&pl=1&currentURL=%3FNtt%3Dflexible%2Bpvc%2B3&facetInfo=

Cement to connect the PVC bends to straight pipe: 1x http://www.lowes.com/pd_23540-138-308183_0__?productId=3457814&Ntt=oatey+cement&pl=1&currentURL=%3FNtt%3Doatey%2Bcement&facetInfo=

My incredibly ghetto heat shield (you'll need a Dremel to cut it down): 1x http://www.lowes.com/pd_18162-1097-295600_0__?productId=1051953&Ntt=28+trash+can&pl=1&currentURL=%3FNtt%3D28%2Btrash%2Bcan&facetInfo=

Your heat shield seal: 1x http://www.lowes.com/pd_21374-1410-RS511XB/6_0__?productId=3132415&Ntt=pipe+insulation&pl=1&currentURL=%3FNtt%3Dpipe%2Binsulation&facetInfo=

Cone filter: 1x [ame="http://www.amazon.com/Spectre-Performance-8138-Chrome-Filter/dp/B00062ZHEQ/ref=sr_1_10?ie=UTF8&qid=1366912937&sr=8-10&keywords=spectre+cone+filter"]http://www.amazon.com/Spectre-Performance-8138-Chrome-Filter/dp/B00062ZHEQ/ref=sr_1_10?ie=UTF8&qid=1366912937&sr=8-10&keywords=spectre+cone+filter[/ame]


Silicone coupler for TB to intake pipe: 1x [ame="http://www.amazon.com/Spectre-9541-Black-Coupler-Reducer/dp/B003JIDTQW/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1366912970&sr=8-3&keywords=spectre+coupler"]http://www.amazon.com/Spectre-9541-Black-Coupler-Reducer/dp/B003JIDTQW/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1366912970&sr=8-3&keywords=spectre+coupler[/ame]


Sensor adapter: 1x [ame="http://www.amazon.com/Spectre-Performance-8705-Sensor-Mount/dp/B000BPUTQE/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1366913054&sr=8-4&keywords=spectre+maf"]http://www.amazon.com/Spectre-Performance-8705-Sensor-Mount/dp/B000BPUTQE/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1366913054&sr=8-4&keywords=spectre+maf[/ame]


Enamel to protect and make PVC pipe look pretty: 1x [ame="http://www.amazon.com/Rust-Oleum-248903-Automotive-12-Ounce-Degree/dp/B003CT4AKC/ref=sr_1_6?ie=UTF8&qid=1366913114&sr=8-6&keywords=black+engine+enamel+flat"]http://www.amazon.com/Rust-Oleum-248903-Automotive-12-Ounce-Degree/dp/B003CT4AKC/ref=sr_1_6?ie=UTF8&qid=1366913114&sr=8-6&keywords=black+engine+enamel+flat[/ame]


Gives my IAT/MAP a proper seal: 1x http://www.homedepot.com/p/DANCO-10-O-Rings-10-Pack-96727/100232944#.UXlw00ryfaQ

Use pieces from this to connect your vacuum line: 1x [ame="http://www.amazon.com/Spectre-Performance-8707-Chrome-Adaptor/dp/B000BQ090O/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1366913281&sr=8-4&keywords=spectre+vacuum"]http://www.amazon.com/Spectre-Performance-8707-Chrome-Adaptor/dp/B000BQ090O/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1366913281&sr=8-4&keywords=spectre+vacuum[/ame]
 
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