First oil change?

[SKM348]

We have the 3.8 AWD. Has about 4500 miles. Was going to change with full synth at around 6K. Dealer gave me first oil change (after 6mo) free but didn't specify synth or reg.

Once dealer changes it I'll probably change myself as I engoy doing it - unless full syth price is too reasonable to ignore etc.

When has everyone changed theirs and how much for full synth.

BTW, car has been great. Build date was end of Feb

Thanks

 

[Huddleston]

I've got free maintenance for 100k so I just take it to the dealer. I assume they do not use full synthetic but hey, its free.

 

[ACE350]

Same here.. Dealer services mine every 3k or 3 months. I explained to them how this is probably not necessarily with today's oils, but this is the service schedule for the included maintenance plan. Oh well ...

 

[Aquineas]

I changed to full synthetic at around 3K and have been using it ever since. I usually pick up two 5Qt bottles from Wal-Mart and have changed about every 5K miles since.

(Edit, not sure why the link is getting mangled if you click on it from the site. Here's the link if you want to copy it and click on it outside the site)
http://www.walmart.com/ip/Mobil-1-5W-30-Extended-Performance-Full-Synthetic-Motor-Oil-5-qt./17128876

 

[Mark_888]

We have the 3.8 AWD. Has about 4500 miles. Was going to change with full synth at around 6K. Dealer gave me first oil change (after 6mo) free but didn't specify synth or reg.

Once dealer changes it I'll probably change myself as I engoy doing it - unless full syth price is too reasonable to ignore etc.

When has everyone changed theirs and how much for full synth.

BTW, car has been great. Build date was end of Feb

Thanks

Let the dealer change the oil now (probably regular, or synthetic blend at best), and then switch to full synthetic as you planned after about 3000 more miles.

I use Mobil 1 5W-30 Extended Performance, at about every 5000 miles, but I only drive 5000 miles or less per year. The most you can go between changes (for warranty purposes) is 7500 miles or 1 year. Despite what some think, Mobil 1 EP has benefits other than being able to extend the oil change drain interval (which you can't do, because of the warranty). I have also used Mobil 1 0W-30, which would be good for colder climates. Mobil 1 prices are cheap at Walmart, as I suspect you know.

Get the OEM oil filters from dealer, either in person, or online (such as Jim Ellis Hyundai in Atlanta). The oil filters are the cartridge type, so don't try and find an after-market filter, since they are either identical to the OEM filter (made by Mahle) or are inferior.

Although the V8 specifies 5W-20, I believe the 2015 specifies 5W-30. As I mentioned, Mobil 1 0W-30 is fine.

You will also need some air filters and cabin filters, so stock up on everything at one time for the next several years to lower the cost of shipping or driving to the dealer.

I keep all receipts, including the product bar code from the oil filter box. I keep a spreadsheet of all maintenance. I also go onto www.MyHyundai.com and log all my maintenance activities on that site also.

 

[lobsenza]

I did my first oil change at about 1300 miles like I do on every new vehicle i purchase. The second oil change was at 7,500 and i will change every 7500 from now on. I use Mobil 1 0w-30 which is an allowed oil on the 5.0. I do not like 5w-20 oil because the 20 weight is thin for the summer heat. I decided that using full synthetic and following the manufacturer's change interval is better than changing at half the interval with dino oil. The oil change in the Genesis is a PITA and that is another reason to do it less often. I do use a Hyundai filter and I partially fill the filter with oil before screwing it on.

I did not use the free oil change offered by my dealer because it involved 1.5 hours of driving and waiting for the oil change. The dealership did send a free filter to me.

I have been using Round Rock Hyundai for warranty service. I started using them because they were 10 minutes from my house. There service is fantastic and I will continue to use them for future service.

 

[Genentec]

my first oil change at the hyundai recommended 7500 miles was only 26 bux at the dealer....this is including tax. Not bad for a 8 cylinder engine. Any car of this caliber will easily cost 100 bucks with the european brands.

this is a maintenance cost of a civic or corolla. Can't really beat that.

 

[C-130Geek]

I have run full synthetic in all vehicles since 1982 and am firm believer. I changed oil for first time at 7,000 on my genny, this let the engine break-in with OEM oil. My oil consumption continually dropped throughout first 7,000 miles. I used 1/2 qt in first 1,000 or so, 1/2 quart next 2,000 and etc. I now have 18,000 and am using about a quart every 4-5,000 miles. I have always changed my own oil and did first on Genny but no more. There are about 27 fasteners and two panels that must be removed to get to drain plug and filter, I no longer have the figure or patience to do it on Genny. I also run Mobile1 5w-30EP, it may cost a bit in mpg over 5w-20 but living in the south I prefer the extra hot day protection.

 

[Lord Humunculous]

Get the OEM oil filters from dealer, either in person, or online (such as Jim Ellis Hyundai in Atlanta). The oil filters are the cartridge type, so don't try and find an after-market filter, since they are either identical to the OEM filter (made by Mahle) or are inferior.

Sure Napa is Wix (Dana), Fram (Allied) "makes" filters for about 20 other major brands, Deutsch is a Champion, and so on, BUT while Champion does make Mobil 1 filters as well as KN, they are NOT the same as Champs, use different materials and have been tested at length by numerous individuals as well as magazines and in a few cases Univ/colleges and have repeatedly been shown to filter to 10-15 micron, repeatably. I'm not saying anything bad about Mahle/Knecht, or Mann, or Valeo, or any other OEM mfr, but Mobil 1 and K&N are certainly not inferior to anything in any way.

I didn't include Bosch here because from what I understand they are no longer made by Champ and production of Bosch filters for the NA market has been moved to China.

 

[Mark_888]

Sure Napa is Wix (Dana), Fram (Allied) "makes" filters for about 20 other major brands, Deutsch is a Champion, and so on, BUT while Champion does make Mobil 1 filters as well as KN, they are NOT the same as Champs, use different materials and have been tested at length by numerous individuals as well as magazines and in a few cases Univ/colleges and have repeatedly been shown to filter to 10-15 micron, repeatably. I'm not saying anything bad about Mahle/Knecht, or Mann, or Valeo, or any other OEM mfr, but Mobil 1 and K&N are certainly not inferior to anything in any way.

I didn't include Bosch here because from what I understand they are no longer made by Champ and production of Bosch filters for the NA market has been moved to China.

I used Mobil 1 oil filters on my previous Toyota for many years. It was a very good filter.

But the Genesis filter is a cartridge type and is unusual. Some of the after market filters guides say to use their same filter for two different Genesis model years, where Hyundai specifies a different filter. There have been posts on this forum about ill-fitting aftermarket oil filters, so I would not take a chance on getting one that does fit the canister properly.

Hyundai is known to try and deny warranty claims whenever they can, so I think it is safer to use the OEM filter if you do your own oil changes. Hyundai has issued TSB's about aftermarket filters that don't fit exactly. Unfortunately, there have been cases of engine failure on the Genesis, and making sure the warranty is intact is paramount to me.

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[Mark_888]

Sure Napa is Wix (Dana), Fram (Allied) "makes" filters for about 20 other major brands, Deutsch is a Champion, and so on

A lot has changed since the infamous oil filter study published on the internet about 15 years ago. Fram is now owned by Rank Group Limited, a privately held investment company in Auckland, New Zealand.
http://www.rankgroup.co.nz/

 

[kn5owa]

+1

 

[Lord Humunculous]

A lot has changed since the infamous oil filter study published on the internet about 15 years ago. Fram is now owned by Rank Group Limited, a privately held investment company in Auckland, New Zealand.
http://www.rankgroup.co.nz/

while I'm not sure what particular post or site you are talking about, I wasn't aware that Mobil 1 was no longer made by Champion (because their own website still clearly states they still make them) and there had been a corresponding change in construction thus making them necessarily inferior to Mahle. My bad.

- and the Rand sale was in 2012, so hmm, so were you meaning to say a lot has changed in five years?

 

[Mark_888]

while I'm not sure what particular post or site you are talking about, I wasn't aware that Mobil 1 was no longer made by Champion (because their own website still clearly states they still make them) and there had been a corresponding change in construction thus making them necessarily inferior to Mahle. My bad.

I don't know who makes Mobil 1 filters these days, but I was referring to who owns Fram (no longer Allied Signal, or Honeywell).

I suspect the suppliers change manufacturers a lot more frequently that we realize. This is especially true for low volume filters like the Genesis uses, because a lot the after-market filters for the Genesis are identical if examined carefully. So even though it shows in every supplier catalog that they have a filter for every car, they don't always make every filter they sell, so it is sometimes hard to compare the quality of one brand with another across their whole catalog.

In my case, I am more concerned about getting hassle-free warranty service if I ever need it, so I use the Hyundai OEM filter. I bought a bunch of them online at the same time for a good price. On previous cars that used a spin-on metal filter, I almost never used the OEM filter.

 

[Lord Humunculous]

Hyundai is known to try and deny warranty claims whenever they can, so I think it is safer to use the OEM filter

I agree. Excellent point.

 

[geetee]

what is the official OEM hyundai recommendation on our cars re: oil changes?

Dyno oil?
How often? (7500 miles)?

 

[Aquineas]

what is the official OEM hyundai recommendation on our cars re: oil changes?

Dyno oil?
How often? (7500 miles)?

Check out page one here, linked to in this post. 7500 or 12 Months normal, 3750 or 6 months severe.

 

[Mark_888]

what is the official OEM hyundai recommendation on our cars re: oil changes?

Dyno oil?
How often? (7500 miles)?

For the 2015, Hyundai recommends 5W-30, which is different than previous model years, and different than the 5.0 V8. If you live in a cold climate, a oW-30 oil can be used instead (although make sure it is not a European Formula Oil). Mobil 1 0W-30 is a good choice.

Hyundai doen't "specify" synthetic, mainly because they are concerned about turning off customers who would think that would raise the cost of ownership/maintenance. But anyone who is concerned about engine longevity would be advised to use synthetic, especially if they change the oil themselves (since the cost differential at Walmart is not significant). People who lease their car for only 3 years and have no interest in buying the car when the lease runs out, may not be persuaded to use synthetic.

Unfortunately, many oil change shops rip off customers for a synthetic oil change, charging much more additional than the difference in cost of the synthetic oil.

According to members who have posted on this forum, some Hyundai dealers use synthetic blend as their standard oil change, which although not a full synthetic is definitely better than conventional oil. If you change the oil yourself, and want a synthetic blend to save money, then just use 1/3 synthetic and 2/3 conventional oil. Bottled synthetic blend is more expensive than it should be (just like mid-grade gas is more expensive than it should be).

 

[Focusin]

For the 2015, Hyundai recommends 5W-30, which is different than previous model years, and different than the 5.0 V8. If you live in a cold climate, a oW-30 oil can be used instead (although make sure it is not a European Formula Oil). Mobil 1 0W-30 is a good choice..

I've never even heard of 0W-30 and I live in a pretty cold area. I should take a look.

 

[Mark_888]

I've never even heard of 0W-30 and I live in a pretty cold area. I should take a look.

Not sure if it sold in Canada, but it is called Mobil 1 0W-30 AFE (Advanced Fuel Economy). There is also a Mobil 1 0W-20.

There are other brands of 0W-30, but make sure it does not say European Formula on the bottle, as that is not suitable for a Hyundai.