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Genesis G70 Reviews

I agree with their assessment of the G70 ride and handling. I find it just perfect for daily driving, taught but not too firm or harsh. Much nicer than the BMWs I've had (even without their runflats). I think the Genesis engineers nailed it.
 
IMO, a solid review. I admit I never tried the Gulia.. maybe I missed out? Still, I don't get why the G70 isn't a more solid #1. These guys admitted it handled well (though I think one mentioned he put the BMW at 1?) AND the G70 is by far the quickest (0.5 seconds is a lot in spite of his comment of "only" 1/2 second difference.) And they didn't really get much into the tech that came with each ride.. maybe that's not something they evaluate? I haven't seen these two before, but their style was good. I much prefer a commitment to the conclusions though. It seemed like they didn't want to tick off the OEMs so they softened up a lot of the criticism.
 

These guys are good, but as they say - opinions can vary...

Would have loved to see what the 2.5T (lighter nose) could do against the 330i, but seems like we won't see it in the G70 til the 2G model (will have to make due with test drives of the 2.5T Stinger), but that'll likely also include a lighter chassis (will also likely grow in WB; note the comment, again, about the tight rear space).

Giulia is a ton of fun (even on base form w/o an LSD), but don't care for the front clip (those headlights are awful).
"The guys in the command center are making some very Bold Decisions, and the folks in the engine room are trying to sort that out." -the former sailor in me finds that hilarious.
 
interesting takes. never heard of these guys before. i agree with them being a bit wishy-washy, lobbing some softballs. but at the end of the day all 3 cars probably are very close and all very good cars. hard to go too wrong. the 3300lb curb weight for the 330i must be a mistake. everything i've seen puts it at ~3600lbs give or take. pretty much the same as the G70 2.0T.

they had the pricing info sort of haywire, but whatever. the 330i was loaded with $20k of options and came in almost $10k more than the G70 or Giulia. that is significant. the Giulia had $13k of options and was essentially at par with the G70 - the main difference being the G70 was a 3.3T Sport.

While they showed the G70's base price at $34,900, that is for the 2.0T. so at ~$51k the 3.3T Sport doesn't really have $16k of options on it in my books. that's more just the overall model line's pricing range. they should have posted the base 3.3T's price to show what options had been added to the base 3.3T cost.
 
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Not a G70 review, but a UK pub just gave the F/L Stinger 4.5 out of 5 stars (only 3.3TT available in Europe now), so bodes well for improvements to the FL G70.

 
I think this maybe was mentioned earlier, but Car and Driver just completed it's long term 40,000 mile test of the 2.0T G70. Its performance somehow improved over time from the initial numbers (even after break in), but what's interesting is that the acceleration numbers are REALLY close to the 4 cylinder BMW 3 Series. Like most everything is within 0.1 seconds difference. And that 4 cylinder is one of the best among the competition, maybe only the Giulia beating it.
Our 2019 Genesis G70 Left Us Wanting for More Power

Comparison to a new BMW 330i
 
Interesting test update. Too bad CD did not just get the V6 for seems the whole flavor of their updated report might have changed some with more power seeing how they mentioned wanted more power numerous times. Also surprised about the chart showing 50% depreciation in 1 year? Hard to believe for a vehicle with as many a accolades as the G70 has gotten that it truly depreciates that fast? I keep my cars for 7+ years so not really an impact to me for the longer you keep a car the overall lower the cost of ownership is assuming your not having maintenance problems.
 
Interesting test update. Too bad CD did not just get the V6 for seems the whole flavor of their updated report might have changed some with more power seeing how they mentioned wanted more power numerous times. Also surprised about the chart showing 50% depreciation in 1 year? Hard to believe for a vehicle with as many a accolades as the G70 has gotten that it truly depreciates that fast? I keep my cars for 7+ years so not really an impact to me for the longer you keep a car the overall lower the cost of ownership is assuming your not having maintenance problems.
I keep reading about the depreciation of the G being high. It's not an issue for me (yet??) but I've seen more than a handful of folks posting that they've gotten some great value for selling their rides. Maybe it's the configuration or geography, but it was no where near as high as the car rags have been saying. Maybe it's an anomaly caused by the Carvana's of the world, but guys have been reporting some really solid quotes.
 
I'm seeing 2.0T 2019s with ~15k miles in my area for $30-35k. Even assuming it's the top of the line Sport trim at $45k initially, that's only 33% depreciation. It doesn't seem too bad, especially not 50%. It could be because the used market is so whack right now.
 
I looked a week or so ago to check current values and filtered for my car, 2019 G70, 4 cyl, AT, RWD, within 250 miles, <15,000 miles. Once those returned I could check interior photos to assess trim level for Elite, Prestige, etc. The result was 29k-33k for my 42k$ MSRP car. Now these were asking prices. NADA and Blue Book was not too far from those numbers.
Market "whack" may be an issue. 55% depreciation is not true except for a specific car at a particular location with excess miles or some other combo.
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I think this maybe was mentioned earlier, but Car and Driver just completed it's long term 40,000 mile test of the 2.0T G70. Its performance somehow improved over time from the initial numbers (even after break in), but what's interesting is that the acceleration numbers are REALLY close to the 4 cylinder BMW 3 Series. Like most everything is within 0.1 seconds difference. And that 4 cylinder is one of the best among the competition, maybe only the Giulia beating it.
Our 2019 Genesis G70 Left Us Wanting for More Power

Comparison to a new BMW 330i
Really amazing how the engine loosened up after 40,000 miles. Those results are not slow for most drivers. Considering the size of the gas tank, most will appreciate the reduced consumption of the 4-cyl turbo.
 
^ yeah, i posted about that 40k acceleration improvement a while back. those numbers are much more aligned to other 2.0T competitors. 0-60 in 5.4s is actually a bit better than what i expected it to be. but it is much closer to expectations than the ridiculous mid-6s-to-low-7s times posted elsewhere. forget about real world or if any of us can achieve those 40k 0-60 times, C&D uses the same test methods so their times give me a good frame of reference for comparison.

edit: i took a 2nd look at the test data. while the 0-60 gain of 0.4s is notable, i raised my eyebrows at the other data. 0-100 time shrank by 2.5s to 14.2, 0-130 came 5.3s quicker, and even the 5-60 test - which is probably the most practical test - came down by almost a full second to 6.8s from 7.7s. also, the 1/4 mile again improved by almost a full second and 5mph!

while the 40k mile times are still not earth-shattering, and far behind the 3.3T obviously, they are certainly much more respectable and align much better with the observed seat-of-pants sensation of this car being plenty quick. and any new owner questioning the 2.0T's power just needs to wait a while for it to loosen up like C&D found, ha ha...
 
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I just traded my 2017 BMW 540 M-Sport for a loaded RWD 3.3 Sport. I have followed Genesis since the beginning, and always thought through whether to get one or not. In 2010 I seriously thought about it them bought (leased) a Lexus GS350. Then a BMW 550, then an Audi A7, then another A7, then the 540....

Well, this time the stars aligned. I avoided any concerns of resale value, which had been a concern all along because I trade a lot. Resale didn't matter this time because I did a three year lease. Residual was 53% (10k miles) and I got a total of $7,000 discounts and got the "buy rate" on the money factor.

I'm more than just a little bit impressed with the car. I live in a mecca for sport bikes. I have three, - Sport Touring, Sport and SuoerSport. I am 68 years old, but have never gotten past step one of the 12 step program for my speed addition. I road raced motorcycles years ago, and have done some auto crossing and drag racing in cars over the years.

Where was I? Ahhh, the "mecca" for sport bikes. I have hundreds of miles of great back roads right outside my neighborhood in the hill country of Texas. I recently moved here and ride the roads on my motorcycles 3-4 times a week - or more! My second day with the G70 I took it our for a 150 mile ride on some of those incredible roads. It was during the week with very light traffic. I very quickly found myself pushing the car pretty good through all sorts of curves. I've owned quite a few sports cars, my last a 2009 Z06 Corvette. I'm not going to say the G70 handles quite that well, but then again I did not have these kinds of roads available when I owned it. I will say that I was blown away at how well the G70 handled it all.

The car is also quite comfortable, rides very well for a sport sedan. Better than my BMW mainly due to its run-flat tires, but even without the runflats, which I did for nearly three years, the BMW's suspension was not as good. Nor was the steering.

I look forward to keeping up and contributing to this forum. You can see I"m not really a new member, I signed up a few years ago when I was considering other Genesis models.
 
That's great, welcome aboard as an owner now. That's quite a testament to the G70 that you were impressed, considering the other cars you've owned. Enjoy!
 
Yeah, nice to hear your perspective on the G70! It's been a great car for me! Also nice to hear you are 68 and still have a passion for auto's and bikes! Good stuff!
 
I just traded my 2017 BMW 540 M-Sport for a loaded RWD 3.3 Sport. I have followed Genesis since the beginning, and always thought through whether to get one or not. In 2010 I seriously thought about it them bought (leased) a Lexus GS350. Then a BMW 550, then an Audi A7, then another A7, then the 540....

Well, this time the stars aligned. I avoided any concerns of resale value, which had been a concern all along because I trade a lot. Resale didn't matter this time because I did a three year lease. Residual was 53% (10k miles) and I got a total of $7,000 discounts and got the "buy rate" on the money factor.

I'm more than just a little bit impressed with the car. I live in a mecca for sport bikes. I have three, - Sport Touring, Sport and SuoerSport. I am 68 years old, but have never gotten past step one of the 12 step program for my speed addition. I road raced motorcycles years ago, and have done some auto crossing and drag racing in cars over the years.

Where was I? Ahhh, the "mecca" for sport bikes. I have hundreds of miles of great back roads right outside my neighborhood in the hill country of Texas. I recently moved here and ride the roads on my motorcycles 3-4 times a week - or more! My second day with the G70 I took it our for a 150 mile ride on some of those incredible roads. It was during the week with very light traffic. I very quickly found myself pushing the car pretty good through all sorts of curves. I've owned quite a few sports cars, my last a 2009 Z06 Corvette. I'm not going to say the G70 handles quite that well, but then again I did not have these kinds of roads available when I owned it. I will say that I was blown away at how well the G70 handled it all.

The car is also quite comfortable, rides very well for a sport sedan. Better than my BMW mainly due to its run-flat tires, but even without the runflats, which I did for nearly three years, the BMW's suspension was not as good. Nor was the steering.

I look forward to keeping up and contributing to this forum. You can see I"m not really a new member, I signed up a few years ago when I was considering other Genesis models.
Entertaining post!
 
I just traded my 2017 BMW 540 M-Sport for a loaded RWD 3.3 Sport. I have followed Genesis since the beginning, and always thought through whether to get one or not. In 2010 I seriously thought about it them bought (leased) a Lexus GS350. Then a BMW 550, then an Audi A7, then another A7, then the 540....

Well, this time the stars aligned. I avoided any concerns of resale value, which had been a concern all along because I trade a lot. Resale didn't matter this time because I did a three year lease. Residual was 53% (10k miles) and I got a total of $7,000 discounts and got the "buy rate" on the money factor.

I'm more than just a little bit impressed with the car. I live in a mecca for sport bikes. I have three, - Sport Touring, Sport and SuoerSport. I am 68 years old, but have never gotten past step one of the 12 step program for my speed addition. I road raced motorcycles years ago, and have done some auto crossing and drag racing in cars over the years.

Where was I? Ahhh, the "mecca" for sport bikes. I have hundreds of miles of great back roads right outside my neighborhood in the hill country of Texas. I recently moved here and ride the roads on my motorcycles 3-4 times a week - or more! My second day with the G70 I took it our for a 150 mile ride on some of those incredible roads. It was during the week with very light traffic. I very quickly found myself pushing the car pretty good through all sorts of curves. I've owned quite a few sports cars, my last a 2009 Z06 Corvette. I'm not going to say the G70 handles quite that well, but then again I did not have these kinds of roads available when I owned it. I will say that I was blown away at how well the G70 handled it all.

The car is also quite comfortable, rides very well for a sport sedan. Better than my BMW mainly due to its run-flat tires, but even without the runflats, which I did for nearly three years, the BMW's suspension was not as good. Nor was the steering.

I look forward to keeping up and contributing to this forum. You can see I"m not really a new member, I signed up a few years ago when I was considering other Genesis models.
Yeah, great feedback and background credentials. Hope to hear more from you!

And for leases, I think people in general focus on residuals/resale a bit too much. If they're not looking to own the car at all after, like you, then the only thing that matters is the monthly payment which Genesis drives down with other incentives to offset residual value. If there's a chance that you'll own it after, then lower residual actually is a good thing. It means the buyout price is lower, and there's a better chance you can sell the lease at the end and make a net profit if the market value is higher than the low residual.
 
Yeah, great feedback and background credentials. Hope to hear more from you!

And for leases, I think people in general focus on residuals/resale a bit too much. If they're not looking to own the car at all after, like you, then the only thing that matters is the monthly payment which Genesis drives down with other incentives to offset residual value. If there's a chance that you'll own it after, then lower residual actually is a good thing. It means the buyout price is lower, and there's a better chance you can sell the lease at the end and make a net profit if the market value is higher than the low residual.
If there is any chance of ownership, always look at the residual. A few things to consider:
1. Your commute or driving patterns may change, adding unexpected miles to your car. Buying the car is often the best remedy to blunt the mileage penalty.
2. You may really like the car and want to buy it, so a fair residual can make that possible.
3. If you don't put the mileage on, it would be wasteful to return the car to the dealer with very low miles. A low residual will help here too.

I just sold my leased Jeep a year early to Vroom Walked away with a check for almost three months payment. No purchase fee, no sales tax easy transaction. Loved the Jeep, but just didn't need it. The low residual and crazy used car market helped here.
 
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The pre-FL G70 has slipped down to 3rd (2nd for ICE) behind the A4 in MT's rankings.


Let's see if the FL model can retake the #2 spot from Audi.

Still #2 in C/D's rankings behind the 3er.
 
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