Genesis GV70 Reviews

[TBickell]

Amazing that the car was just released in the land down under and they already have several top real journalist reviews and here it's been out for months and other than individuals reviewing dealship cars we still got nothing.

 

[John Baxter]

Amazing that the car was just released in the land down under and they already have several top real journalist reviews and here it's been out for months and other than individuals reviewing dealship cars we still got nothing.

I agree, it's really bizzare tbh.

Another fresh written review:

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[Backslack]

Also why does the Canadian version get more terrain drive modes ( mud, sand etc) Snow mode is enough in he states and one would think that would be enough for Canada but not the case.

It's because of some ridiculous patent that Jaguar Land Rover has on terrain modes in the U.S. (but not globally). They even sued Volkswagen/Audi over it.

U.S. GV80 models will not have off-road Terrain Modes

Figured this deserved its own thread. https://canada.autonews.com/retail/canadian-genesis-gv80-offers-terrain-modes-not-available-us-due-patent Unfortunately I can't access the full article, but the U.S. versions of the GV80 won't offer the Terrain Modes for off-roading due to patent issues...

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[snerpy]

Amazing that the car was just released in the land down under and they already have several top real journalist reviews and here it's been out for months and other than individuals reviewing dealship cars we still got nothing.

There was a review embargo from what I understand but you would think all the reviews would have filmed/edited and ready to be uploaded by now.

 

[stsk]

There was a review embargo from what I understand but you would think all the reviews would have filmed/edited and ready to be uploaded by now.

They all hit the press a few days ago, at roughly the same time. See earlier in the thread: cnet, Car and Driver, Road and Track etc. etc.

 

[TBickell]

They all hit the press a few days ago, at roughly the same time. See earlier in the thread: cnet, Car and Driver, Road and Track etc. etc.

Yes many printed (on-line) reviews finally hit but none of the key american video reviews are out yet. Just some local dealer dudes who are hit or miss as far as real information goes.

 

[John Baxter]

There's been some chatter about different spec cars for international markets.
Genesis have just released this comprehensive comparison doc for the three Australian models.
Some may find it interesting.

https://www.genesis.com/content/dam/genesis/au/pdf/Genesis_GV70_Specs_07_2021.pdf

 

[ronsal]

There's been some chatter about different spec cars for international markets.
Genesis have just released this comprehensive comparison doc for the three Australian models.
Some may find it interesting.

https://www.genesis.com/content/dam/genesis/au/pdf/Genesis_GV70_Specs_07_2021.pdf

Looking quickly at the Aussie specs, one of the things that stands out - the tires that you down under folks get. The Michelin Pilot Sport 4 is definitely a more performance oriented tire than the Primacy that the US market (and I assume Canadian) gets. I wonder if that also means the suspension is tuned any differently?

 

[John Baxter]

Looking quickly at the Aussie specs, one of the things that stands out - the tires that you down under folks get. The Michelin Pilot Sport 4 is definitely a more performance oriented tire than the Primacy that the US market (and I assume Canadian) gets. I wonder if that also means the suspension is tuned any differently?

All Genesis / Hyundai / KIA products have custom tuned suspension for the Australian Market.

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[John Baxter]

Great to see some USA YT comments about this Aust review:

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[spiritamokk]

There's been some chatter about different spec cars for international markets.
Genesis have just released this comprehensive comparison doc for the three Australian models.
Some may find it interesting.

https://www.genesis.com/content/dam/genesis/au/pdf/Genesis_GV70_Specs_07_2021.pdf

Am I reading this correctly and top trim for 2.5T model has 3D All digital cluster and heads up display in Australia, but not in US??

 

[Etex]

There's been some chatter about different spec cars for international markets.
Genesis have just released this comprehensive comparison doc for the three Australian models.
Some may find it interesting.

https://www.genesis.com/content/dam/genesis/au/pdf/Genesis_GV70_Specs_07_2021.pdf

Tilting front seat headrests

 

[Etex]

I've been to & driven in Australia; Sydney, Perth & surrounding areas. Can't imagine any different conditions than are here in the US, as far as suspension needs. They do get mud, snow, sand options. Looks like marketing speak.

 

[Backslack]

I've been to & driven in Australia; Sydney, Perth & surrounding areas. Can't imagine any different conditions than are here in the US, as far as suspension needs. They do get mud, snow, sand options. Looks like marketing speak.

This is false. Hyundai/Kia tune suspensions differently according to different regions of the global market. A year ago some members here had the privilege of driving KDM spec GV80's in the U.S. and the suspension and steering tuning was nothing like the U.S. production models that we later got.

 

[Etex]

This is false. Hyundai/Kia tune suspensions differently according to different regions of the global market. A year ago some members here had the privilege of driving KDM spec GV80's in the U.S. and the suspension and steering tuning was nothing like the U.S. production models that we later got.

Ok, but exactly what road conditions are different between the US and Australia

 

[Backslack]

Ok, but exactly what road conditions are different between the US and Australia

It doesn't matter what you and I think differs. The Korean models get sent to Australia and their team there tunes the suspension for Australian roads. The Korean models get sent here to North America and the North American team tunes the suspension for North American roads. They're developed independently from one another. This is how Hyundai works.

 

[MelGV]

Top of the line 2.5T in Australia has everything you get in the top of the line 3.5T in the US less the adaptive suspension and E LSD. So Nappa leather seats, 3D cluster, HUD etc. Australia doesn't get some of highway drive assist system on either model.

 

[PetevB]

Ok, but exactly what road conditions are different between the US and Australia

Snow. Snow exists in Oz but it’s far rarer than the US. Hence Australia got a summer tire (which has significantly more grip) as standard fit. More grip means the car leans more in the corners. Ideally suspension is stiffened to counter this- typically a car is engineer with platform control targets (body roll, squat and dive) and then tuned to hit them. So in a perfect world you actually re-tune the suspension fir different tires.

Very few manufactures do this- if there are 18, 19 and 21” tire options for example they simply tune for the 19” and call the others good enough. But in a perfect world they would. If Genesis is doing region specific suspension tuning on the GV70 (no idea if they are) that would be my bet as to why.

I’d be curious if there are in fact hardware or software changes.

 

[TBickell]

I'm curious.. How does this "tuning" of the suspension work? Different/ stiffer components or is it electronic like everything else?

 

[PetevB]

I'm curious.. How does this "tuning" of the suspension work? Different/ stiffer components or is it electronic like everything else?

That's my question too. The "right" way to change the suspension when you fit stickier tires is to uprate both the springs and the roll bars (at least) and then re-tune the shocks to match. I'd be shocked if they did anything like that without mentioning it, and then there's a problem: which version do you send the the Nürburgring for testing? I guarantee it's not all of them...

Far more likely is a little adjustment of the adjustable shock mapping- as long as it's inside the envelope of what was tested elsewhere that's not hard. Of course it doesn't bring as much benefit either. Currently the GV70 is too new for us to be able to pull up part numbers of suspension, etc to check, but in time that will tell us what was done (if anything).