GV80 Pricing (USA) Revealed

[LanceP]

Thanks for uploading the press release! I had a feeling that a fully loaded GV80 would be more around $70k vs $65k.

I'm shocked they are charging for paint now when all of the other Genesis models have the same paint for free. Maybe it's a new paint process or maybe its just a marketing ploy?

I'm happy to see the Digital Key will available. Since I have an Iphone, Im sure it'll come with the key-card. lol

So do US models get 3 extra speakers now with the Lexicon Audio system? All I've seen in the past has been 18 speakers. Now it says 21. From the beginning, I wished they would get rid of those rear vanity mirrors and make them speakers.

I like that if offers a 3-zone climate, I just wish the front and rear had independent fan blowers. I watched a video where they turned the rear fan speed up and it turned up the fan speed for the front driver/passenger.

I love the Dune/Aquamarine interior but does it come with Brown wood trim or Black wood trim?

 

[Spill6]

Thanks for sharing. It comes in a bit higher than what the speculation has been. I'm going to need to drive it first to see if it's worth it at nearly 72k. They do offer a lot, but to me when you get to this price point, you now need to offer a drive train that's as good as the competition IRT performance etc...

Personally bummed that it's over 65k, but it's still atop the list right now. They do give a lot though. I have a question. Do any of the 3.5 trims over real leather on dash and doors or is it still the faux? Great article, but there will still be plenty of questions.

thanks

3.5T prestige has real leather trims, nappa seats.

 

[Spill6]

I'm sure if you compare the options with German equivalents, this is a great deal. But it may be hard to compare the price to the RX, even if it's an interior vehicle in many aspects.

What I dislike is how confusing the trims are. All the AWD packages add something different at each trim level, and each trim level has different equipment on the 2.5T vs the 3.5T. I can't imagine coming in as a low info customer and trying to compare trims and make the best choice.

Read the options and compare differences and then look at the price difference and determine if it's worth it to you. It's not hard.

 

[TurtleBoy]

Actually that is not correct. I priced an X5 with the same options...and it came out to $10k more WITHOUT a prepaid service plan. So it is more than $10k USD.

It will be interesting to see how much the Genesis dealers discount. For BMW the discounts are regional but in most parts of the country they are averaging 10% right now. That would bring the actual cost to be about the same as the GV80.

Three years of service comes free with the X5.

 

[Spill6]

In general I agree with your package comment. Porsche is famous for its "everything is an option", pricing. If you shop for a used Porsche, no two will have the same options and almost every vehicle starts with a different MSRP. Confusing. HOWEVER, I’m not entirely happy. Of the 10 features added with the Prestige Pkg. A few I really wold like i.e. Nappa leather, E-LSD and Active Noise Cancelation. There some items that don’t matter to me i.e. Second Row Vanity mirrors or Auto Window Shades. (What the backseat passenger can’t lift the shade? LOL) And there are items I really don’t want Third Row Seating and IMO those awful 22” Wheels. So while I like packages I find myself looking for a key to unlock some package features.

My baby/infant can't raise the shade. Agree with the wants and don't wants in the Prestige 3.5. They should make a Prestige+ with all the goodies, and the Prestige with the options you mentioned on top of Advanced.

 

[Beefer]

It will be interesting to see how much the Genesis dealers discount. For BMW the discounts are regional but in most parts of the country they are averaging 10% right now. That would bring the actual cost to be about the same as the GV80.

Three years of service comes free with the X5.

Ah...didn’t know that. It’s a tough call for sure.

No way Genesis will discount. Not for a while anyway.

No massaging seats either...so gotta apologize for that endless debacle . Very surprised actually. Learned a lesson to NEVER trust the media until the facts are out!!

 

[TurtleBoy]

No way Genesis will discount. Not for a while anyway.

I think you are right about that and they will probably operate similarly to they did when the G70 came out. You were able to get a good discount on your but most early purchasers were paying MSRP before any incentive. Perhaps after a few months when the initial rush dies down they will need to discount them to keep sales at the same level.

 

[Spill6]

It will be under $80k CAD.

My logic is this...

Fully loaded G70 in the USA is $53,245
Fully loaded G70 in Canada is $58,000
That is roughly a 8.93% increase (has nothing to do with currency)

Applying the same percentage makes a fully loaded USA GV80 at $71,975 to be about $78,400 CAD. So right at that $78k CAD mark you mention.

In the USA...similarly equipped SUV's from BMW and Audi will be well over ~$10k USD more.
Verified...BMW is $10k more...but without prepaid service. Probably add a few more grand for that.
Verified...Audi is $17k more...but that DOES include prepaid service.

I thought both Germans would be a lot more. Mind you I did not price out the 5.0 X5.

Regardless...f'ing steal.

Do it for all Genesis models. They are different %. The G80, G90, all difference % deltas. I think the 82K CAD (~13%) will be about right. No paint charge or destination/freight charge in Canada. It's all in pricing. But also non negotiable pricing so only the MSRP is 13% different not the actual after US located negotiations...

 

[Spill6]

I should have been more specific in the choices that I made to get to the $76K:

a) Standard tires (I'm not interested in the GV80's 22s, and would seek to swap them out at the dealer for 20s)
b) Vernasca leather
c) The $500 paint
d) The Harmon sound system not the B&W (as much as I like B&W and have their floor standing speakers, I'm not paying $4K)
c) No floor mats.
d) Smaller engine

But I did include third row seats (which come with air suspension), executive option, comfort seats, etc.

To get to the $81K, I added more expensive paint, night vision, floor mats and a few other things that I would like to have. I would also seriously consider the hybrid that is coming this summer, but I think that will come in at $6-8K more pre tax. Clearly, you can option a gas X5 up to almost $90K if you want everything.

Even at my preferred $81K configuration, I was expecting that the GV80 would come in at least $15K less. I'm not sure the $10K difference would make me give up my BMW bias. Actually, it will be my wife's car, and it is her BMW bias! She loves her current X5.

Vernasca leather is garbage. Probably worse than the standard GV80 leather (non nappa). The Lexicon will be miles ahead of the standard HK. X5 40i >= GV80 3.5T.

So, to get good leather you need Merino. And don't you need Msport for Merino? Since GV80 looks way better than non Msport X5, seems like you'd have to add Msport + either partial merino or full merino. What $ we at now?

 

[TurtleBoy]

Vernasca leather is garbage. Probably worse than the standard GV80 leather (non nappa).

I think you will have a lot of people disagreeing on that. Vernasca is miles ahead of the Dakota leather they were using and seems to be chosen as much, if not more, than the top of the line Merino.

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[Spill6]

I think you will have a lot of people disagreeing on that. Vernasca is miles ahead of the Dakota leather they were using and seems to be chosen as much, if not more, than the top of the line Merino.

Well, Dakota IMO is worse than the leatherette in the RX. So I'd hate to have a 3 series and pay for [dakota] "leather".

 

[Spill6]

As I said in the other GV80 info thread, if I were US located I'd take the GV80 3.5T Advanced, and give up nappa, RANC, eLSD, power doors, auto rear window shade (unfortuately) but also give up the 22s (gladly) and 2nd row power seats (don't need em) ....to save the 5K.

 

[TurtleBoy]

Well, Dakota IMO is worse than the leatherette in the RX. So I'd hate to have a 3 series and pay for [dakota] "leather".

They don't use Dakota in the 3 series anymore. Sensatec is standard (that would be a leatherette) and the upgrade is Vernasca.

 

[TurtleBoy]

As I said in the other GV80 info thread, if I were US located I'd take the GV80 3.5T Advanced, and give up nappa, RANC, eLSD, power doors, auto rear window shade (unfortuately) but also give up the 22s (gladly) and 2nd row power seats (don't need em) ....to save the 5K.

If I had to guess, within a year or two we will see the wheels as an option in addition to the packages. Having to take the 22's may cause folks to go for a lesser package or even a competitors model.

 

[Beefer]

^ I think forcing 22’s is insane...and setting things up for a plethora of whining.

Luckily (I’ve already checked) the tire size is normal and not some crazy expensive rubber. Quite affordable. I posted costs in another thread.

 

[Cruiser]

Vernasca leather is garbage. Probably worse than the standard GV80 leather (non nappa). The Lexicon will be miles ahead of the standard HK. X5 40i >= GV80 3.5T.

So, to get good leather you need Merino. And don't you need Msport for Merino? Since GV80 looks way better than non Msport X5, seems like you'd have to add Msport + either partial merino or full merino. What $ we at now?

I have to say from afar, that the Genesis product planners and pricers seem to be working overtime to make an apples to apples comparison with an X5 complex. I have to admit that the the leather thing makes my eyes glaze over....cowhide is cowhide to me. I like the leather in my Genesis, and I like the leather in my X5. Harmon owns Lexicon, but the Lexicon system will probably be better than the optional Harmon system in the X5, but not as good as the X5's B&W option. But road noise tends to confound the dynamic range and precision of car speakers, and only really pure audiophiles will pay $4k for the B&W option. As I said, I'm a B&W enthusiast, but I won't pay for B&W in cars. So, the B&W option in the X5 is a little irrelevant. Power rear sunshades are not an option in the X5, but they are in the GV80. We use our rear sunshades a lot. This is a favorable comparison. eLSD is available in the X5, but it seems only for the M version. The X5 has a rear seat option too, but it comes with air suspension. Etc. Etc.

This is good product strategy. Find little differences to your advantage and minimize (or obsfucate) differences.

But, I have to say, again, I'm surprised at the overall pricing at the prestige 3.5 level. I can understand it. Release the GV80, assess the market reaction for six weeks, and then price accordingly. The market reaction has been really positive, and from dealer folks on this board we know that order books are filling up. Pricing a little high might be a sign of managerial confidence. We'll have to see.

 

[TurtleBoy]

^ I think forcing 22’s is insane...and setting things up for a plethora of whining.

Luckily (I’ve already checked) the tire size is normal and not some crazy expensive rubber. Quite affordable. I posted costs in another thread.

Yes, I remember seeing that and they aren't outrageous. I guess we really should wait and see what the reviews say once a US version is driven on our roads. While it is a low profile tire by definition, the sidewall will be 4.2 inches so there is a decent amount of rubber there to hopefully absorb those impacts. In contrast, the G70 sport is 3.5 and the seemingly often complained about G80 Sport is 3.9 & 3.8.

 

[TurtleBoy]

So, to get good leather you need Merino. And don't you need Msport for Merino? Since GV80 looks way better than non Msport X5, seems like you'd have to add Msport + either partial merino or full merino. What $ we at now?

No, at least in the US, Merino is available in xLine or MSport.

 

[TurtleBoy]

I have to say from afar, that the Genesis product planners and pricers seem to be working overtime to make an apples to apples comparison with an X5 complex.

Yes, it s basically impossible to make an apples to apples build. When I tried to make a comparison build, the X5 came out to be almost $78k. To get to that though I left off the 22"inch wheels and went with 20" and also didn't choose a 3rd row but did chose a spare tire and massaging seats so it was an apples to oranges build trying to emulate what many posters on here said they would like. I did choose Merino leather, the driving assistance pro package, and the Executive package. I also chose the acoustic glass, leather dashboard and Alcantara headliner to emulate some options in the GV80.

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[Spill6]

^ I think forcing 22’s is insane...and setting things up for a plethora of whining.

Luckily (I’ve already checked) the tire size is normal and not some crazy expensive rubber. Quite affordable. I posted costs in another thread.

If I had to guess, within a year or two we will see the wheels as an option in addition to the packages. Having to take the 22's may cause folks to go for a lesser package or even a competitors model.

Go here and yes - Genesis [Canada] is insane. 22s on ALL (well...there are only 2) 3.5T trims. Genesis Motors Canada - We Come To You.

Then look at the US trims just announced and think about how much better they are, and laugh at us Canadians.... because Genesis Canada doesn't know WTF people really want.

So what, go down to a 2.5 model? Or go to a competitor...which is why I've been looking at the X5.

Hopefully someone making these decisions is reading this...