Hyundai Genesis Sedan reliability - better info ASAP - please sign up

[mkaresh]

In a few days we'll start previewing the next set of results to participants. The preview results will be updated as responses come in.

As always, the more owners participate, the better the information we can provide to everyone. Especially need more 2010s and 2011s.

Car reliability research

 

[mkaresh]

Starting this month we have a new question to measure, as objectively as possible, the severity of a problem. Many people have been asking for reliability stats that weight problems by how severe they are, and once we have enough responses with the revised survey we'll start providing this.

Also this month: updated reliability stats.

 

[mkaresh]

e have updated results for the Genesis to include owner experiences through September 30, 2010. Other sources of car reliability information won't cover the months since April until the summer or even fall of next year.

Repair frequencies, in terms of repair trips per 100 cars per year:

2009 sedan: 48

2010 sedan: 44

Both are about average.

We have two additional statistics, "Nada-odds" and "Lemon-odds," to indicate the percentage of cars with no repairs in the past year and those that required 3+ trips to the repair shop.

2009 sedan: 66, < 1

Hyundai Genesis Lemon-odds and Nada-odds

We'll have further updates in February and May. With more participants, we could provide more precise information and cover all model years.

To see how competitors compare, and to sign up to help:

Hyundai Genesis reliability ratings and comparisons

 

[mkaresh]

We have updated results for the Genesis to include owner experiences through December 31, 2010. Other sources of car reliability information won't cover the months since April until the summer or even fall of this year.

Repair frequencies, in terms of repair trips per 100 cars per year:

2010: 62

2009: 56

Both are about average.

We have two additional statistics, "Nada-odds" and "Lemon-odds," to indicate the percentage of cars with no repairs in the past year and those that required 3+ trips to the repair shop.

2009 sedan: 66, < 1

Hyundai Genesis Lemon-odds and Nada-odds

We'll have further updates in May and August. With more participants, we could provide more precise information and cover all model years.

To see how competitors compare, and to sign up to help:

Hyundai Genesis reliability ratings and comparisons

 

[mkaresh]

We have updated our reliability stats for the Genesis sedan to include owner experiences through March 31, 2011.

Repair frequencies, in terms of repair trips per 100 cars per year:

2011: no repairs reported so far, 20 participants

2010: 61, about average

2009: 58, about average

We have two additional statistics, "Nada-odds" and "Lemon-odds," to indicate the percentage of cars with no repairs in the past year and those that required 3+ trips to the repair shop.

2009: 55, less than one

Hyundai Genesis Lemon-odds and Nada-odds

We'll have further updates in August and November. With more participants, we could provide more precise information.

To see how competitors compare, and to sign up to help improve this information:

Hyundai Genesis reliability ratings and comparisons

 

[mkaresh]

We have updated our car reliability stats for the Genesis to include owner experiences through June 30, 2011.

Repair frequencies, in terms of repair trips per 100 cars per year:

2011 sedan: no repairs reported so far, 20 participants

2010 sedan: 69

2009 sedan: 55

All except the 2011 sedan are now about average.

We have two additional statistics, "Nada-odds" and "Lemon-odds," to indicate the percentage of cars with no repairs in the past year and those that required 3+ trips to the repair shop.

2010 sedan: 59, 3

2009 sedan: 58, < 1

Hyundai Genesis Lemon-odds and Nada-odds

We'll have further updates in November and February. With more participants, we could provide more precise information and cover all model years.

To see how competitors compare, and to sign up to help improve this information:

Hyundai Genesis reliability ratings and comparisons

 

[mkaresh]

We have updated our car reliability stats for the Genesis (on our redesigned site) to include owner experiences through September 30, 2011.

Repair frequencies, in terms of repair trips per 100 cars per year:

2011 sedan: 29

2010 sedan: 71

2010 coupe: 50

2009 sedan: 65

The 2011 is better than average while the others are about average.

We have two additional statistics, "Nada-odds" and "Lemon-odds," to indicate the percentage of cars with no repairs in the past year and those that required 3+ trips to the repair shop.

2010 sedan: 51, < 1

2009 sedan: 46, 2

Hyundai Genesis Lemon-odds and Nada-odds

We'll have further updates later this month and in May. With more participants, we could provide more precise information and cover all model years.

To see how competitors compare, and to sign up to help improve this information:

Hyundai Genesis reliability ratings and comparisons

 

[mkaresh]

We have updated our car reliability stats for the Genesis to include owner experiences through September 30, 2012.

Repair frequencies, in terms of repair trips per 100 cars per year:

2012 sedan: 27, better than average

2011 sedan: 54, about average

2010 sedan: 73, worse than average due to a common problem with the power steering column adjusters

2009 sedan: 58, about average

We have two additional statistics, "Nada-odds" and "Lemon-odds," to indicate the percentage of cars with no repairs in the past year and those that required 3+ trips to the repair shop.

2011 sedan: 64, < 1

2010 sedan: 57, < 1

2009 sedan: 56, 4

We'll have further updates in February and May. We'd love to provide more precise stats and fully cover all model years--just a matter of getting more owners involved.

To see how competitors compare, and to sign up to help:

Hyundai Genesis reliability ratings and comparisons

 

[landtuna]

Just saw this, this morning so signed up. No repairs to date but will be taking '12 R-spec in later this month to have dealer install up to date nav map (car was delivered with old version although it seems to be working fine).

Not sure if that qualifies as a genuine "repair" or not.

 

[mkaresh]

Thanks for joining!

No, we don't consider map updates as repairs. This car was produced before the latest update?

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[Potty_Pants]

I truely dont know how you can be on all the forums all the time and still manage the truedelta site.

As always best of luck !

Ppp

 

[landtuna]

Thanks for joining!

No, we don't consider map updates as repairs. This car was produced before the latest update?

I don't know the production date. It was delivered 12/3/2012. The most current map was April of 2012.

 

[Southern Boy]

I'm in also

 

[Ruissimo]

I would sign up again, and certainly believe in the project and what not, but I kept getting too many emails with my previous car.

"Log on today."
"Your log-on is 13 days overdue"
"DO IT NOW!"

I know that's not what the notifications sounded like, but it eventually felt like I was at my job. If I sign up for an online community, I want to do it on my own terms. I got enough deliverables in my life already.

Good luck though.

 

[EXBMWGUY]

I would sign up again, and certainly believe in the project and what not, but I kept getting too many emails with my previous car.

"Log on today."
"Your log-on is 13 days overdue"
"DO IT NOW!"

It's changed. I signed up both cars in 2011, and have not experienced any such tyranny. The new format is easy and lets you update in seconds and then move on.

 

[mkaresh]

We've cut back on the reminders in the off-months, so they're only sent frequently in the month following the end of the quarter and not in the other two. But many people respond with the first email each quarter, and so never see any of the follow-ups.

As Ruissimo noted, the emails are not actually worded as he wrote, but he's not the only person to perceive them that way. Others perceive the same emails as begging too much. So I hear from some people that the emails are too strong, from others that they're too weak!

Some people do feel that we should just let people respond when they happen to get around to it. But few would ever actually get around to it. In an off-month, when we don't send reminder emails, we get about 20 responses a day, and many of those are from brand new members. Our current coverage is based on over 25,000 responses per quarter. That's not happening at 20 per day.

 

[Ruissimo]

Sounds good, then. As I said, the more data, the better. I certainly believe in THAT!

Maybe I'll give it another go.

 

[mkaresh]

Sounds good, then. As I said, the more data, the better. I certainly believe in THAT!

Maybe I'll give it another go.

If you responded at all earlier, the account will still be here, just deactivated. Shoot me a PM or email with the email address you used and I can easily reactivate it. This way there will be no need to start from scratch.

 

[mkaresh]

We have updated our car reliability stats for the Genesis to include owner experiences through December 31, 2012.

Repair frequencies, in terms of repair trips per 100 cars per year:

2012 sedan: 26, low

2011 sedan: 39, moderate

2010 sedan: 74, high due to a common problems with the power steering column adjusters, power seat controls, and (with the V8) fuel pumps

2009 sedan: 55, moderate

We have two additional statistics, "Nada-odds" and "Lemon-odds," to indicate the percentage of cars with no repairs in the past year and those that required 3+ trips to the repair shop.

2012 sedan: 75, 4

2011 sedan: 71, < 1

2010 sedan: 50, 4

2009 sedan: 55, 2

We'll have further updates later this month and in August. The more owners participate, the more comprehensive and precise these will be.

To see how competitors compare, and to sign up to help:

Hyundai Genesis reliability ratings and comparisons

 

[DRS]

Once the leather drivers seat problems take hold, the 2012 and 2013 numbers of repairs per 100 will go through the roof. Also, based in the reports of multiple service tickets on this issue will also boost this. Hyundai needs to get ahead of this.