Oil catch can installation process on Genesis 3.8 V6 Sedan

[JRF1]

All:
Sorry, as this is my 1st post here so I apologize in advance if this is in the wrong spot or not properly formatted.... I am typically just a reader learning LOTS of great information from this site about my Canadian 2012 Genesis 3.8 with tech and premium packages.
I was wondering if anyone could provide any installation specifics/tips/pictures for installing an aftermarket oil catch can on the 2012 V6 sedan. After reading about the concerns of buildup accumulation on the backs of the valves, IMHO it is worthwhile to try and prevent/reduce this issue with a catch can.
I know it is inserted into the tubing for the PCV system, but i must admit, I popped the engine top trim cover off on the weekend and wasn't able to clearly identify any of the appropriate hoses or even see the PCV valve itself.
I have already purchased the Draft 42 designs oil catch can as well as a modified drain plug & drain tube etc; so I am "set" to mount the can in an inconspicuous location (I would like it to be as covert as possible under the hood as I am somewhat worried about dealer warranty "hassles" due to installing this) and then connect it into the PCV plumbing accordingly.
I appreciate in advance any specifics as generic information that I have found is somewaht helpful, but doesn't get me to where I feel confident to install this unit on my Genny.

Sincerely,

JRF1

 

[QuantumRift]

There will be no dealer warranty issues. I cannot believe there is any possibility of a failure that could be attributed to the installation of an oil catch can (air/oil separator). I just installed a JEGS unit on my Isuzu pickup (I have a '12 Genny that's going to get a catch can as well). All i can tell you is that you mount it anywhere you can find room and just ROUTE longer hoses to it. IT will do the rest.

If there's any DOUBT as to what it can do, check this out:

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y9klkDCItEY"]Moroso Air/Oil Separator / Catch Can test 2009 Cadillac CTS-V www.moroso.com - YouTube[/ame]

 

[QuantumRift]

Also, the "DRAFT 42" link in your message, above, when I clicked on it, takes me to the Wal Mart site for a Trademark Miller Genuine Draft 42" Pub Table, Chrome.

LOL.

 

[JRF1]

Thanks for the feedback Quantum. I haven't gotten around to installing mine as yet so IF you go ahead and do yours, any pictures/suggestions would be much appreciated. I don't know how that auto link formatting thing happens but the ctach can i bought was from draft 42 designs. Anyway, hope to hear more soon when you tackle yours

 

[Mark_888]

Also, the "DRAFT 42" link in your message, above, when I clicked on it, takes me to the Wal Mart site for a Trademark Miller Genuine Draft 42" Pub Table, Chrome.

LOL.

I don't think he added that link. It is an advertising link created by the forum software.

 

[radicaltimes]

Just because there are concerns about it does not mean it is a problem. The video is a sales promotion. Go to corvetteforums and there will be a lot of info there. Mostly only needed for high rpms. My C5 corvette has 80,000 and the intake is dry. But then I never take it to 6,000 rpm where the catch can would benefit me.
If installed correctly it does not hurt anything.

 

[DRS]

My 5.0 Genny is getting some break miles now. Just over 6k miles. With about 3k on this oil change. Full synthetic, Kendall this time. (Normally will be using Pennzoil Plat, or M1 extended. NO drop in oil level at all. None. Mostly highway, with mixed town driving. Couple of times full throttle through the gears. I know been many others with R-Specs having oil loss issues. Knock on wood so far for me.

I think a catch can is a great idea for any DI engine. No real good way to protect intake valves from PCV oil mist deposits coming in unless a catch can is used (from what I have learned to date).

I intend to install one. For a peace of mind issue, and any possible affect at certain conditions, to crap up the intake valves.

 

[DRS]

I appreciate all the wisdom and knowledge from this site.

 

[Mark_888]

My 5.0 Genny is getting some break miles now. Just over 6k miles. With about 3k on this oil change. Full synthetic, Kendall this time. (Normally will be using Pennzoil Plat, or M1 extended.

Kendall is one of the brands owned by Phillips 66, which is the marketing and refining company that split off from ConnocoPhillips not too long ago. The Kendall motor oil products are identical to the other oil brands they also sell (within the same category of full synthetic, etc):

• Connoco
• Phillips 66
• 76 Lubricants

Pennzoil Platinum is a very good Group III (hydrocracked mineral oil) synthetic. Mobil 1 EP is about 35% Group III and rest is Group IV or V. The equivalent Pennzoil motor oil to Mobil 1 is probably Pennzoil Ultra (which may even be better than Mobil 1), but Ultra seems to be disappearing from retailer shelves in many parts of the country. I noticed it has been removed from the Walmart stores in my area (the death knell of any product), although it is still apparently available in some areas.

 

[EXBMWGUY]

Kendall is one of the brands owned by Phillips 66, which is the marketing and refining company that split off from ConnocoPhillips not too long ago. The Kendall motor oil products are identical to the other oil brands they also sell (within the same category of full synthetic, etc):

• Connoco
• Phillips 66
• 76 Lubricants

Pennzoil Platinum is a very good Group III (hydrocracked mineral oil) synthetic. Mobil 1 EP is about 35% Group III and rest is Group IV or V. The equivalent Pennzoil motor oil to Mobil 1 is probably Pennzoil Ultra (which may even be better than Mobil 1), but Ultra seems to be disappearing from retailer shelves in many parts of the country. I noticed it has been removed from the Walmart stores in my area (the death knell of any product), although it is still apparently available in some areas.

I hate to see it so scarce at local retailers like Walmart. I resorted to ordering it like this: https://www.theoilhub.com/Penn_Ultra_5W30_6qts

Based on my experience, it's worth it.

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[Mark_888]

I hate to see it so scarce at local retailers like Walmart. I resorted to ordering it like this: https://www.theoilhub.com/Penn_Ultra_5W30_6qts

Based on my experience, it's worth it.

$46 for 6 quarts (plus shipping cost) is too much for me.

 

[EXBMWGUY]

$46 for 6 quarts (plus shipping cost) is too much for me.

I know it's too expensive, but between the benefits of low volatility and very high detergent capability, it's worth it if I keep the car a long time.

 

[Mark_888]

I know it's too expensive, but between the benefits of low volatility and very high detergent capability, it's worth it if I keep the car a long time.

OK, but no one should claim anymore that I am the one with the oil fetish.

 

[EXBMWGUY]

OK, but no one should claim anymore that I am the one with the oil fetish.

You don't have an oil fetish - but you do have an anti-5.0 GDI fetish. I didn't make that claim about you! I probably am the genuine oilfetishguy.

 

[Mark_888]

You don't have an oil fetish - but you do have an anti-5.0 GDI fetish.

Whenever someone posts a question about whether to purchase the 5.0 V8 or the 3.8 V6 (before or after they made the purchase), I think it is only fair to mention to those persons that some members have had "excessive" (by modern standards) oil consumption on the 5.0 V8. Not everyone with the 5.0 V8 has had experienced that. This is the kind of information that people come to this forum for, and I don't appreciate being personally attacked for making such information available.

When I purchased my 2009 Genesis in Jan 2009, I soon discovered (like some others) some suspension issues. I would have preferred to have read about the early 2009 suspension issues before I purchased, and then waited for the 2010 suspension upgrades that Hyundai did. I ended up replacing my 2009 suspension with 2010 components on my own, so I know what I am talking about.

Don't shoot the messenger. If you want to shoot someone, try Hyundai. If you disagree, your opinion is always welcome, minus the personal attacks.

 

[scottdk]

 

[DRS]

Yea, the Ultra had disappeared around here too. And I still see ads for it in the car rags. Will keep looking.

Thanks for the info on Kendall. So far, I am happy with it. A garage I trust has been trying to get me to switch to this for some time. Up until this and Ultra, been a M1, and M1 extended fan for decades (except for Shell diesel synthetic, M1 up until recently for diesel trucks can be hard to find). I even used it in my twin engine planes until M1 pulled their aero products many years ago.

Also, anyone ever heard of Tufoil? It is an additive I swear by for 20 years. It lives up to its claims. Check it out. Engine cranks faster in very cold times. On amazing wear prevention on all the cars and business vehicles (including diesel), measurable mileage increase (3-7%), perfect oil analysis results for up to 250k plus miles tested.. Amazing turbo life (no SD diesel or cars turbo replaced) with great old oil condition when drained. Non existent oil consumption. I could go on and on. I also had old carb non computer run "muscle car" (SD-455 Trans AM), and the idle speed increased.

I have NOT used it in the 5.0 yet. Has anyone tried it? It will not violate the warranty (because it works). However, been sensitive to use it at all in the 5.0. Plus, if you use it early before break in (up to 10k these days) will extend time for engine to break in. This is something you add to every oil change.

 

[HavasuPaPa]

All:
Sorry, as this is my 1st post here so I apologize in advance if this is in the wrong spot or not properly formatted.... I am typically just a reader learning LOTS of great information from this site about my Canadian 2012 Genesis 3.8 with tech and premium packages.
I was wondering if anyone could provide any installation specifics/tips/pictures for installing an aftermarket oil catch can on the 2012 V6 sedan. After reading about the concerns of buildup accumulation on the backs of the valves, IMHO it is worthwhile to try and prevent/reduce this issue with a catch can.
I know it is inserted into the tubing for the PCV system, but i must admit, I popped the engine top trim cover off on the weekend and wasn't able to clearly identify any of the appropriate hoses or even see the PCV valve itself.
I have already purchased the Draft 42 designs oil catch can as well as a modified drain plug & drain tube etc; so I am "set" to mount the can in an inconspicuous location (I would like it to be as covert as possible under the hood as I am somewhat worried about dealer warranty "hassles" due to installing this) and then connect it into the PCV plumbing accordingly.
I appreciate in advance any specifics as generic information that I have found is somewaht helpful, but doesn't get me to where I feel confident to install this unit on my Genny.

Sincerely,

JRF1

JRF1 -
Did you ever (or anyone else) get your oil catch can installed? If so, I would like to see pics since I have been considering an oil catch can for my 2012 V6.
Also, how often do you dump it and how much gunk is there when you dump it? THANKS