Oil Change On 4.6 V8

[homeofstone]

If you keep vehicles for years and over 100,000 miles then use synthetic oil. If you replace a vehicle before it reaches 100,000 miles then use regular oil, using a synthetic oil is just helping out the next owner when you replace the vehicle before 100,000 miles on the odometer.

 

[Car Guy Texas]

Thanks guys especially bu341wm for the torque specs!

I purchased an oil filter element housing socket (27MM) at O’Reilly for $7.99. If you buy one get a 6 point instead of 12 there should be much less wear and tear on the non-metallic filter housing.

For anyone else doing this for the first time it is pretty easy and straight forward. On my 2011 the lower shield is held on with 8 (10MM) bolts and 1 Phillips head pop-out fastener. Once the lower shield is off you have easy access to everything. The oil pan drain plug is 17 MM.

I used the factory oil filter PN# 26320 3C30A. Apparently that filter is used in other applications as there are 2 small rubber o-rings that are not used for the 4.6 engine.
Thanks again for everyone guidance
CG TX

 

[genesis20]

Note to remember: The car should be near level in order for all the old oil to drain out. Ramps are not a good idea for the Genesis.

The oil drain plug is at the rear of the pan and using ramps would allow more oil to drain out.

 

[DeadRun]

ON 2012 4.6 V8 - It takes what the book says to fill after full drain with filter change. That is 6 qts + 27 ounces to the F mark on the dipstick when warm.

 

[homeofstone]

The oil drain plug is at the rear of the pan and using ramps would allow more oil to drain out.

The tau V8 has an upper and lower oil pan sections and when the Genesis is on ramps the oil cannot all drain out of the upper section of the oil pan, which is toward the rear of the car. You may be thinking that the lower part where the drain plug is located is the complete pan, however the rest of the pan is above and to the rear, hence the reason for the car needing to be level. If you look closely at the photo below you can see the upper oil pan section (silver) along the bottom of the block with the small lower (black) section attached to it.

schematic

 

[DeadRun]

My 2012 (V8 4.6) was on short (6") ramps when the oil was drained and took the 6.86 qts listed in the Hyundai service manual to refill to the full mark on the dipstick. So, I have to believe that all the oil that was supposed to drain on a standard oil change was drained. However, I don't really understand the listed "Total" 7.92 liter capacity. That would imply to me on a fresh engine (with no oil) it would take 7.92 qts to fill. Therefore, in a standard change the engine is retaining a quart of oil. Seems like a lot of retained old oil by design.

FROM THE HYUNDA0I 2012 GENESIS 4.6 V8 SERVICE MANUAL
Capacity :
Total : 7.5 L (7.92 US qt, 6.59 lmp qt)
Oil pan : 6.0 L (6.34 US qt, 5.27 lmp qt)
Drain and refill including oil filter :
6.5 L (6.86 US qt, 5.71 lmp qt)

(Thanks for posting the great pics of the 4.6 engine. I had not seen that pic before.)

 

[NCGenesis]

This thread has been interesting. Yes, I come from the old school of every 3 to 5,000 miles. But that was in the days of SAE 30 grade and older engines.
Thus I'm sure 7,500 is fine.

My question - (this is my first maint. interval with my Genesis 4.6) - Does the Genesis have an "oil change" or Maint. Req. lamp which comes on or not?
I have not seen it on the instrument panel. It may be that amber "engine" lamp on the lower left. (?) and if so does it need resetting after a Do It Your Self change?

 

[homeofstone]

This thread has been interesting. Yes, I come from the old school of every 3 to 5,000 miles. But that was in the days of SAE 30 grade and older engines.
Thus I'm sure 7,500 is fine.

My question - (this is my first maint. interval with my Genesis 4.6) - Does the Genesis have an "oil change" or Maint. Req. lamp which comes on or not?
I have not seen it on the instrument panel. It may be that amber "engine" lamp on the lower left. (?) and if so does it need resetting after a Do It Your Self change?

The Genesis 4.6 does not give you any oil life information. You have to keep up by yourself.

 

[Mark_888]

This thread has been interesting. Yes, I come from the old school of every 3 to 5,000 miles. But that was in the days of SAE 30 grade and older engines.
Thus I'm sure 7,500 is fine.

My question - (this is my first maint. interval with my Genesis 4.6) - Does the Genesis have an "oil change" or Maint. Req. lamp which comes on or not?
I have not seen it on the instrument panel. It may be that amber "engine" lamp on the lower left. (?) and if so does it need resetting after a Do It Your Self change?

Since you are changing the oil yourself, I assume you are using full synthetic. The price premium for synthetic is quite small when purchased in 5-quart jugs at Walmart. I would recommend 5W-30 or 0W-30 for the Tau 4.6.

 

[TagHDI]

4 pages of "replies" but I did not see an answer. Has anyone actually done an oil change?

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[homeofstone]

4 pages of "replies" but I did not see an answer. Has anyone actually done an oil change?

I have done all but maybe two of mine every 5000 miles with over 130,000 miles since purchased new.

 

[ShadowZ]

I have done all of mine since I've owned it. Every 3,500-3,800 miles, save for the one time after 700 miles on my new engine.

History showed that the previous owner changed it about every 7,000... And I ended up replacing the engine after catastrophic failure. There is a great difference between severe service intervals and "normal".

 

[TagHDI]

So the original question was where is the oil filter and the plug. I am also interested in this info as a new owner wanting to change my own oil. Any takers?

 

[homeofstone]

Oil filter on the 4.6 is at the front bottom of engine. Only use oem filters. Hyundai sent Notice out regarding engine problems when some aftermarket filters were used. Drain is on side of of oil pan. Plastic engine cover on bottom must be removed using 10 mm socket.

 

[beachbaker]

Maybe this will be of some help. Curt

http://genesisowners.com/hyundai-genesis-forum/showthread.php?t=1471&highlight=oil+change

 

[Bill K]

I lucked out. The dealer where I bought my Genesis offers $9 oil changes for people who buy new cars there. I've got enough coupons to last 8 years @ two changes a year. (Once I retire, I'll only be doing 5,000 a year, if that)
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[homeofstone]

I lucked out. The dealer where I bought my Genesis offers $9 oil changes for people who buy new cars there. I've got enough coupons to last 8 years @ two changes a year. (Once I retire, I'll only be doing 5,000 a year, if that)
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I wonder what brand and grade of oil is used with 9.00 oil change.

 

[Bill K]

Whatever the standard Hyundai oil is.
They could get into so much trouble if they were caught using substandard products in cars they sold.

You forget that dealers will often have sales just to get people into their shops so that they can "sell" them services that aren't absolutely required.
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A $9 oil change can help sell a $120 fuel injection cleaner treatment.
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[Mark_888]

Whatever the standard Hyundai oil is.
They could get into so much trouble if they were caught using substandard products in cars they sold.

You forget that dealers will often have sales just to get people into their shops so that they can "sell" them services that aren't absolutely required.
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A $9 oil change can help sell a $120 fuel injection cleaner treatment.
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I guess that depends on whether you think conventional oil is substandard when compared to synthetic.

BTW, Hyundai fuel injector service consists of pouring a bottle of Hyundai Fuel Injector Cleaner in the gas tank, which is a rebranded version of Chevron Fuel Injector Cleaner with Techron that you can get at any auto parts store.

 

[Bill K]

I also just received an Ad from a different Hyundai dealer offering a big sale from 139.99 down to 119.99 for cleaning your fuel system. A certain percentage of customers will "bite" on this, thinking that they really need it.
It's the same when grocery stores sell a gallon of milk for 2.22. You come in to buy the milk, but you walk out with $150.00 in groceries.
Good marketing.
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