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What is the requirement for pm ability? I looked everywhere, and I can't find that information :(

Once you have at least 16 posts then you should be able to click on a member's name and Start Conversation. Some have said they had to wait 24 hours after reaching that mark but there was some problem with the PMs at one time so that may have factored into it.
 
Once you have at least 16 posts then you should be able to click on a member's name and Start Conversation. Some have said they had to wait 24 hours after reaching that mark but there was some problem with the PMs at one time so that may have factored into it.
Thanks for that! I started contacting dealers about purchasing g70 so I'll definitely update on this thread :)
 
The way your lease amortized down to the residual actually straight line. The total "interest" paid or your "rent" charge they call it on the lease you sign) on the life of the lease is then divided by 36 monthly payments. This is effectively the interest amount that Genesis charges you for borrowing $45,000 for 3 years at 1.1%. If you take that amount minus your payment that is how much your residual will amortize down each month as you make your monthly payments. It's one of the bizarre thing about leases, the interest is linear instead of a typical loan how the interest is higher in the early months and lower in the later months as you pay the principal down. So in theory your residual comes down faster in the early portion of the lease than it would if you were calculating a loan amortization.

Example: Lets say your cap cost is $45000(this is all in, calculated as what you pay for car plus $750 acquisition fee, plus license fees for your state, ignoring sales tax), your residual is $27,030, and your say your car MSRP is 53,000(roughly 51% residual). I am ignoring sales tax for this example(after all I'm in Oregon). your payment is 531.97 on a money factor of .00046(1.1%). Your total interest(or rent charge) on this lease is $1,181. They call it rent charge, it is interest, dont be fooled. So take $1,181/36 payments and this is $32.80 a month interest(rent charge). So after month 1 your residual is ($45,000-$531.97+$32.80), or $44,500.83. Each month your residual will go down $499.17 until you reach $27,030. Trust me, this is 100% accurate, i have leased 20+ cars and do leasing for a SEC publicly traded companies.

* might be some rounding in here but should be <$1.00
Thanks @TurtleBoy and @nellie1289, really helpful info.

Is it better to buy out after 2 months or buy out at the end of the lease? Penalties for overrunning the mileage if keep til end of lease?

You hear of anyone getting a better deal as a straight purchase? Or is lease and buy out the way to go with today’s incentives?
 
Is it better to buy out after 2 months or buy out at the end of the lease? Penalties for overrunning the mileage if keep til end of lease?

You would have to look at your specific situation but in general right now it would be better to buy out at the end of the lease as shown in the example. If you are buying it at the end of the lease then most manufactures, including Hyundai/Genesis from what has been reported, do not charge for mileage/extra wear and tear.

You hear of anyone getting a better deal as a straight purchase? Or is lease and buy out the way to go with today’s incentives?

Since they increased the lease cash and with the extremely low MFs it would almost always, if not always, be better to lease and then buy. They price of the car should be the same no matter if you are leasing or buying. Once the price has been established then you would look at the cost of each option.
 
You would have to look at your specific situation but in general right now it would be better to buy out at the end of the lease as shown in the example. If you are buying it at the end of the lease then most manufactures, including Hyundai/Genesis from what has been reported, do not charge for mileage/extra wear and tear.



Since they increased the lease cash and with the extremely low MFs it would almost always, if not always, be better to lease and then buy. They price of the car should be the same no matter if you are leasing or buying. Once the price has been established then you would look at the cost of each option.
That’s what I was thinking, thanks for confirming.

Now the question is...buy now, or wait for the 2020...or possibly wait to buy a 2019 after the 2020 comes out! Might only be a couple months from what I’m reading.
 
You would have to look at your specific situation but in general right now it would be better to buy out at the end of the lease as shown in the example. If you are buying it at the end of the lease then most manufactures, including Hyundai/Genesis from what has been reported, do not charge for mileage/extra wear and tear.



Since they increased the lease cash and with the extremely low MFs it would almost always, if not always, be better to lease and then buy. They price of the car should be the same no matter if you are leasing or buying. Once the price has been established then you would look at the cost of each option.
Agree with this. Better to lease till end of three years then buy it out. There is no mileage overage charge if you buy it out.
 
Since they increased the lease cash and with the extremely low MFs it would almost always, if not always, be better to lease and then buy. They price of the car should be the same no matter if you are leasing or buying. Once the price has been established then you would look at the cost of each option.
Thanks. That sure seems to be the case financially. Not having ever had a lease, I don’t know about the fine points. For example, I see mention of gap insurance, but I suppose that wouldn’t be necessary if you intend to buy the car in any case?

Also, does Genesis ever offer buyer cash incentives on straight purchases? Or are the cash incentives always tied to leases?
 
The GAOP insurance is built into the lease as far as I know. You would definitely want that since it would cover it if the car was totaled and what the insurance offer was less than what was owed.

Genesis has not offered purchasing incentives other than lower than normal interest rates.
 
In my opinion gap insurance is one of the biggest scams of all time. Avoid like the plague
 
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In my opinion gap insurance is one of the biggest scams of all time. Avoid like the plague

Just about every manufacture, Toyota doesn't last I saw, provides it with the lease so no point in not wanting it since it doesn't cost anything and it can't be turned down.
 
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You would have to look at your specific situation but in general right now it would be better to buy out at the end of the lease as shown in the example. If you are buying it at the end of the lease then most manufactures, including Hyundai/Genesis from what has been reported, do not charge for mileage/extra wear and tear.

Since they increased the lease cash and with the extremely low MFs it would almost always, if not always, be better to lease and then buy. They price of the car should be the same no matter if you are leasing or buying. Once the price has been established then you would look at the cost of each option.
I guess one reason to buy out early is if the MF is higher than normal. From another thread, it sounds like some dealers inflate the MF for things like Circle A. That might not be as much of an issue if there are multiple dealers with the car you want but could be if there is only one.
 
I guess one reason to buy out early is if the MF is higher than normal. From another thread, it sounds like some dealers inflate the MF for things like Circle A. That might not be as much of an issue if there are multiple dealers with the car you want but could be if there is only one.

As I always say, each situation needs to be looked st using the specific numbers because that could happen.

Sales taxes could be another reason, if you live in a state that charges sales tax on leases up front on the total amount you need to determine what is done when you do the buyout. If they are charged again then that could wipe out some any advantage to leasing and then buying. On that topic, no one has ever posted from those states what happens so not sure if that would be an issue or not.
 
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As I always say, each situation needs to be looked st using the specific numbers because that could happen.

Sales taxes could be another reason, if you live in a state that charges sales tax on leases up front on the total amount you need to determine what is done when you do the buyout. If they are charged again then that could wipe out some any advantage to leasing and then buying. On that topic, no one has ever posted from those states what happens so not sure if that would be an issue or not.
ok, yea, def would want to look into that
 
Sales taxes could be another reason, if you live in a state that charges sales tax on leases up front on the total amount you need to determine what is done when you do the buyout. If they are charged again then that could wipe out some any advantage to leasing and then buying. On that topic, no one has ever posted from those states what happens so not sure if that would be an issue or not.
That would be a real double whammy. Tax up front on the total amount plus more on buyout? I really hope that no state actually does this.
 
That would be a real double whammy. Tax up front on the total amount plus more on buyout? I really hope that no state actually does this.

I just found this on Virginia's DMV site and would hope all states treat it similar but something to make sure of.

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How many cars have you totaled
if been in 2 accidents where vehicles were totaled

How many times have you died? Should you get life insurance? Driving to work theres at least one accident a day and in my line of work I see plenty of totaled vehicles.

It's rare but it happens...and in the unfortunate event it does it could really screw up your finances for a few years. For a low cost to insure that doesnt happen in the event you total your car... well worth it imo
 
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