Reported Issues with the Genesis GV60

[Guru0006]

Got my car back finally today. The fluid for the dif came WITH the dif. Not inside mind you but in the container. I am still trying to get my hands on some to change out the front dif fluid as well. the parts guy is trying. He says possibly will not be a serviceable part. I somehow doubt that very much.

 

[steveinarizona]

I have the performance with the $5000 rear e-dif. Saw that price when I stopped by today. They have hard parts now just waiting for the fluid. It's all being covered under warranty thank Google.
Oh and yes HUGE difference between an Ionic 5 and our cars. Like night and day. I miss my HUD my massaging seat and napa leather but mostly I really miss the power.

Unless things have changed, the Performance model in the US came with the electronic LSD.

What you say makes sense to me. For a traditional ICE car I have felt that HP in the 300s is fine as I don't track my car but do want passing power. But EVs are heavier so I have felt that the sweet spot, for me, is HP in the 400s. On the other hand, I don't feel a need for HP in the 500s and gladly trade luxury and small size for HP in the 500s (i.e., GV60P vs. Kia EV GT).

When I have needed to quickly pass someone, and step on the accelerator, I can't stop grinning.

 

[Looney100]

What you say makes sense to me. For a traditional ICE car I have felt that HP in the 300s is fine as I don't track my car but do want passing power. But EVs are heavier so I have felt that the sweet spot, for me, is HP in the 400s. On the other hand, I don't feel a need for HP in the 500s and gladly trade luxury and small size for HP in the 500s (i.e., GV60P vs. Kia EV GT).

When I have needed to quickly pass someone, and step on the accelerator, I can't stop grinning.

I’ve had a couple more powerful and lighter vehicles in the past, but the thing that continues to impress me with the GV60 (and the Case with most EVs) is the instantaneous power.
with my prior high-HP cars, there was always a ’build-up’.

 

[steveinarizona]

I’ve had a couple more powerful and lighter vehicles in the past, but the thing that continues to impress me with the GV60 (and the Case with most EVs) is the instantaneous power.
with my prior high-HP cars, there was always a ’build-up’.

To me the differentiator is not the instantaneous power. As you say...that is true of most EVs. What I wanted was if I am driving on a two lane road with a 65 mph speed limit and lots of vehicles pulling trailers, and I get toward the bottom of a huge hill that has a passing lane, I want to be able to scoot past the slow vehicle before the hill ends and the passing lane terminates. And, yes, this is an actual road between where I live and the best pay to play golf course in greater Phoenix.

The GV60P gives me that performance and, equally as important, confidence in that performance.

 

[TopHat]

Seems to be a rare situation as per the dealership, but I wonder if anyone here has gone through the same/similar situation as I have and needed their entire battery replaced?

I drove my performance model for about 16,000 km over the course of 9 months. Last week there was an issue when charging an an L3 station (got the "Check electric vehicle system" message) so I took it in for inspection the following day. The service department came back stating there was an issue with one of the battery cells having a voltage discrepancy with the other cells in the battery pack, and will need to order me a new battery and replace it with the dud.

 

[Nycturne]

Seems to be a rare situation as per the dealership, but I wonder if anyone here has gone through the same/similar situation as I have and needed their entire battery replaced?

I drove my performance model for about 16,000 km over the course of 9 months. Last week there was an issue when charging an an L3 station (got the "Check electric vehicle system" message) so I took it in for inspection the following day. The service department came back stating there was an issue with one of the battery cells having a voltage discrepancy with the other cells in the battery pack, and will need to order me a new battery and replace it with the dud.

I’ve seen other brands of EVs encounter this. Sounds exactly like a weak cell tripping the diagnostic checks. A weak cell can accidentally get over-discharged if the imbalance is high enough, which you really don’t want. The control system can protect the pack by reducing range, which is what VW’s MEB platform does.

VW’s battery pack can be serviced at the module level. IIRC, they have to swap modules in pairs, but that’s still much cheaper than swapping out the whole battery especially when there isn’t much wear on the pack. It’s a little disappointing that Hyundai et al doesn’t have something setup already to do the same. While I can see the individual part numbers for VW’s battery modules, I don’t see the same thing for any of the eGMP cars.

(Edit: Hopefully this will be done as warranty work though? A weak cell should be covered with so few miles)

 

[steveinarizona]

VW’s battery pack can be serviced at the module level. IIRC, they have to swap modules in pairs, but that’s still much cheaper than swapping out the whole battery especially when there isn’t much wear on the pack

My prior vehicle was a BMW 530e and at about 4 years I had a battery module fail. BMWs allegedly could replace a module but when my module failed, they replaced the entire pack as a warranty item. As a consumer, I didn't complain.

 

[TopHat]

(Edit: Hopefully this will be done as warranty work though? A weak cell should be covered with so few miles)

Yea, this will be covered under warranty. They're also covering my gas money minus cost of charging for the distance I'm driving for the loaner vehicle. So I'm only paying for what i would be paying if i was driving my GV60. Seems fair enough.

From an environmental view, it seems awfully wasteful that a whole battery pack will be tossed out for just one bad cell/module. Would be nice to see fixes to be possible at a lower level especially as time goes on. Although from a consumer POV though, I'm not complaining that i get a new battery pack under warranty

 

[up_north]

The GV60 is the only car I have ever had where lowering and raising the window does not remove rainwater drops.

 

[Nycturne]

Yea, this will be covered under warranty. They're also covering my gas money minus cost of charging for the distance I'm driving for the loaner vehicle. So I'm only paying for what i would be paying if i was driving my GV60. Seems fair enough.

From an environmental view, it seems awfully wasteful that a whole battery pack will be tossed out for just one bad cell/module. Would be nice to see fixes to be possible at a lower level especially as time goes on. Although from a consumer POV though, I'm not complaining that i get a new battery pack under warranty

The pack is something that can be repaired more granularly. The question is more: do the dealers have the tools/support they need to do the work? Sounds like they don't yet, which is a problem a couple years in. At the very least, Hyundai/Genesis in each region should have locations that can refurbish a pack and use it for repairs down the road (i.e. a cheaper out of warranty option), or as VW plans: converting refurbished EV packs into grid storage for EV charging networks/etc.

Based on the teardown of the eGMP pack by Munro, the pack is designed to be repairable at the module level, with gaskets that aren't single use, etc. Seems like the most annoying part is the "thermal interface" between each module and the pack itself, which looks like it'd need replacing when a module is replaced. Since it's a thermal pad style material, it's very likely single use. But everything else looks well thought-out for repair/refurbishment.

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[CRMS]

The GV60 is the only car I have ever had where lowering and raising the window does not remove rainwater drops.

Does the window pull back from the traditional lip seal against glass when lowering the window?

 

[up_north]

Does the window pull back from the traditional lip seal against glass when lowering the window?

No idea but obviously does something to every other car. Maybe they don’t have rain in Korea so they didn’t deem it an issue - a bit like rain-free California based Tesla don’t have usable auto wipers!

 

[nova_gv60]

Seems to be a rare situation as per the dealership, but I wonder if anyone here has gone through the same/similar situation as I have and needed their entire battery replaced?

I drove my performance model for about 16,000 km over the course of 9 months. Last week there was an issue when charging an an L3 station (got the "Check electric vehicle system" message) so I took it in for inspection the following day. The service department came back stating there was an issue with one of the battery cells having a voltage discrepancy with the other cells in the battery pack, and will need to order me a new battery and replace it with the dud.

My GV60 advanced needs a new ICCU and Hv fuse… the dreaded check electric system error here too.

 

[SoCalG90]

Driving through a secluded, dark area tonight with sketchy cell coverage and no highway lighting, the warning light for the tire pressure monitor system flashed on the dash, there was also no tire pressure readings on the dash. Found a place to pull way off to the side and check the tires, they were fine. Powered down the car and re started it, light eventually extinguished, and I could get tire pressure readings. Same thing happened 20 minutes later, but I kept driving to my house. Weird.

I also had the blue screen on the dash when I turned on the signals, both left and right sides, no reason to it, sometimes the screen is blue, sometimes it isn't, and sometimes it switches back and forth.

I hate these damn gremlins. Maybe in the morning the gremlins will have moved on. It was working fine before, maybe they pushed some OTA update.

 

[sychu0999]

Anyone annoyed that the rear hatch gets dirty after the slightest bit of driving?

 

[Shark]

Anyone annoyed that the rear hatch gets dirty after the slightest bit of driving?

That's commonplace to hatchbacks. There's has been lots of discussion here about the lack of a rear wiper. Some here feel it's not much of an issue, but others think it's a significant oversight. I'm in the latter camp as having to frequently clean the rear window by hand when there's grime on the road gets old fast. Our Niro EV has a rear wiper, so why would the more expensive Ioniq5/ EV6/ GV60 not?

 

[CRMS]

Because the designers claim their aero design won't need one. Just like Jag iPace. But aero doesn't keep rain drops off either when parked.
I wonder if Rain X would help?

 

[Jock55]

I wonder if Rain X would help?

It does help a wee bit, but no substitute for a rear wiper and washer. Also required is a washer for the rear camera. I keep forgetting to wipe mine each time I get in the car and it's like trying to see through gravy!

 

[CRMS]

VW Golf got it right - rear camera lives behind the badge. Never cleaned it in over 8 years.

 

[steveinarizona]

VW Golf got it right - rear camera lives behind the badge. Never cleaned it in over 8 years.

The camera in my previous BMW 530e was not covered and I never separately cleaned it (i.e., other than via a car wash) and it worked perfectly for the five years I owned the car.

Tradeoff is needing a motor (which, of course, can fail) to expose the camera in the VW while it is constantly exposed to dirt in cars like my prior BMW. "You pays your money and you takes your chances"*

* George Washington Plunkitt...a Tammany Hall politician at the turn of the 20th century.