Saw the 2015 Genesis in person, no camo

[SimpsonTide985]

The specs shown was a 320hp V-6 (down 10hp) and 300lb/ft (up 10lb).

You know, if the new transmission is as good as they say, the increase in torque and a smoother transmission should more than make up for a slight decrease in HP--especially if it'll pull off a slight MPG improvement as well.

 

[smoove7410]

Is this pretty accurate?

Interior wise, did they wrap the dash?

 

[Ruissimo]

This is probably a little more accurate:

BUT NOT OFFICIAL.

EDIT: I take that back... the grill on your picture holds the license plate, so that actually makes more sense to me. Who knows.

 

[STREETS]

Well- intro is in Detroit- 7 months away- plenty of time for -hopefully- changes we want.

 

[deise17311]

Seems to look like the ford fusion! I hope the real deal is a step above...which I am sure it will be...

 

[SimpsonTide985]

Seems to look like the ford fusion! I hope the real deal is a step above...which I am sure it will be...

Well, that and/or a A8 and a Chrysler 300

 

[Mark_888]

Looks like 2015 Genesis wheels will be very similar to the 2014 Toyota Corolla:
http://stream.wsj.com/story/latest-headlines/SS-2-63399/SS-2-247776/

 

[Gunkk]

If they really go with that nose from the renderings, and it isn't similarly upscale looking as the current Genny nose, it would be a shame.

... and my next car will probably not be the '15 Genesis.

I'll probably go with a used 2012 4.6 instead

 

[PMCErnie]

If they really go with that nose from the renderings, and it isn't similarly upscale looking as the current Genny nose, it would be a shame.

... and my next car will probably not be the '15 Genesis.

I'll probably go with a used 2012 4.6 instead

Agreed, it's a big gamble for Hyundai. The current models emulate the Mercedes, BMW and Lexus. Not a bad target bunch. Obviously, 2015 model is trying to emulate the Audi. Time will tell if it can pull it off.

 

[STREETS]

I think the nose- on all cars are regulated to be more vertical than swept.

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[mikec]

I think the nose- on all cars are regulated to be more vertical than swept.

Europe adopted "pedestrian impact regulations" which basically require:
a) no concentrated loads on the legs of the pedestrian - i.e. bumpers can't stick out like they used to, etc. Ergo pretty flat "walls" for the nose. Or the nose has to be made of soft material so the whole thing "gives" and spreads the impact forces along as much of the pedestrian as possible.

b) at least 4 inches of crush space underneath the hood to "hard points" that won't give (i.e. engine structure). This way the hood can dent/deform rather than acting like a cement floor when the pedestrian gets flipped up onto the hood. Does wonders for shorter drivers - even more hood blocking visibility. That tall hood also hides more small children from every driver's view.

Initially these European regs didn't apply to cars to be sold in the US but it's possible similar laws have been adopted here too... or car companies have decided they have to do it here anyway or else they'd get sued for "not addressing foreseeable dangers" when a pedestrian gets maimed/killed.

I don't know if this is due to the pedestrian regs or not but glass is pretty much out for headlight lenses; they're pretty much all plastic that doesn't shatter as much and won't form as much damaging shrapnel. And plastic lenses are cheaper to make & build new factory tooling/molds for... so styling tweaks are cheaper. Too bad plastic lenses yellow so much and/or cloud over reducing headlight effectiveness. Another "make it safer" regulation change that, over the long term, may reduce safety unless owners spend $$ fixing headlight lenses without dash warning lights telling them to do so. We have to have laws to make people wear their seat belts so what makes regulators think folks will get headlight lenses fixed when they cloud over and block half the light output?

mike c.

 

[SimpsonTide985]

If they really go with that nose from the renderings, and it isn't similarly upscale looking as the current Genny nose, it would be a shame.

... and my next car will probably not be the '15 Genesis.

I'll probably go with a used 2012 4.6 instead

Really?? Are you really so inflexible with the design of a car's nose?

The perception of what is or isn't upscale in a car's nose doesn't seem to be set in stone. I can think of various upscale cars that share similar noses from out of that rendering--it's just that it's just different than what you're used to. I can't speak for you, but for me, I don't see it as a step back. As I alluded to before, it really harkens moreso of the Aston Martin/Audi variety as opposed to the Genesis' current Lexus/Mercedes-like shape.

 

[larry'sown]

Europe adopted "pedestrian impact regulations" which basically require:
a) no concentrated loads on the legs of the pedestrian - i.e. bumpers can't stick out like they used to, etc. Ergo pretty flat "walls" for the nose. Or the nose has to be made of soft material so the whole thing "gives" and spreads the impact forces along as much of the pedestrian as possible.

b) at least 4 inches of crush space underneath the hood to "hard points" that won't give (i.e. engine structure). This way the hood can dent/deform rather than acting like a cement floor when the pedestrian gets flipped up onto the hood. Does wonders for shorter drivers - even more hood blocking visibility. That tall hood also hides more small children from every driver's view.

Initially these European regs didn't apply to cars to be sold in the US but it's possible similar laws have been adopted here too... or car companies have decided they have to do it here anyway or else they'd get sued for "not addressing foreseeable dangers" when a pedestrian gets maimed/killed.

I don't know if this is due to the pedestrian regs or not but glass is pretty much out for headlight lenses; they're pretty much all plastic that doesn't shatter as much and won't form as much damaging shrapnel. And plastic lenses are cheaper to make & build new factory tooling/molds for... so styling tweaks are cheaper. Too bad plastic lenses yellow so much and/or cloud over reducing headlight effectiveness. Another "make it safer" regulation change that, over the long term, may reduce safety unless owners spend $$ fixing headlight lenses without dash warning lights telling them to do so. We have to have laws to make people wear their seat belts so what makes regulators think folks will get headlight lenses fixed when they cloud over and block half the light output?

mike c.

I'd say it has more to do with cost. The 2G Genesis is a global car. No car company is going to make drastic styling and structural changes to sell a car to a particular market. I didn't understand the upright nose of the current Volvo S60 when it came out, but now it's clear that they were just years ahead of the curve.

 

[mikec]

When Europe adopted the pedestrian impact rules, it wasn't so much as "in 2 years you must do this." Instead it was legislated that, after year 20-whatever, the car must comply with the regs at its next significant re-design. So some cars were styled this way years before others... several models retained pre-rule styling past the entry date because those cars didn't change styling for a few years. Many manufacturers though, before the rules were fully in effect, designed with the requirements in mind knowing that, in 2 or 3 years when the "mid-cycle styling refresh" was done they'd have to satisfy the regulations. That meant the vehicle's front end hard-points and hood stuff had to satisfy the regs in advance since those are things that are too expensive changed for a "mid-cycle" update.

International regs vary quite a bit; it's hard to make a "world car" that satisfies regulations in all markets. International regulations have gotten a lot closer though in recent years - there has been some effort at "harmonization" in many countries. Emissions is one such area; it wasn't that long ago that catalytic converters were not required on European cars unlike the US that has required them for much longer.

mike c.

 

[jcox12]

Does anyone know if the 2G Genesis will include the MirrorLink or CloudCar technology Hyundai has been developing on top of BlueLink? That would seal the deal for me. I owned a 2010 V8 Tech Genesis and loved every minute I was in that car. i am in a 2011 Maxima now and I can honestly say I don't use the in car navigation at all due to the inconvenience of manually entering addresses and searches being done on outdated POI databases in the car that you have to pay to upgrade. IMO integration between apps on the phone and navigation, the ability to just click on links and take me straight to navigation, etc. is the way to go.

Not having a redundant nav system would be great and I would be in this car for the next 7-10 years for sure.

Thanks in advance.

 

[larry'sown]

I am pretty sure that all new Hyundais and Kias will have Google Maps as their navigation software.

 

[DominicJE]

Saw the 2015 Genesis in person, with no camo. It was an amazing looking car. The interior is much better, but the real improvements were done on the exterior. I have seen the spy shots, but the production car I saw did not have the multiple LED lights for headlights, it was a single projector HID bulb. The led lights that wrapped around the test mule was not there either, it was replaced with an LED strip that was shaped like an L, from the back to the bottom of the headlight. I would say that the front looks like a mix of an Infiniti M with the grille of an Audi A6. The interior seemed roomier than the 2013 that I own. The interior spy shots that we have seen are identical to the model that was shown to me. The rear lights remind me of the new 5-series, but not shaped the same. Just the way they shined.

The specs shown was a 320hp V-6 (down 10hp) and 300lb/ft (up 10lb). The model had 19" rims, which looked very nice, but I don't know if that's going to be standard or not. Probably will be part of the R-Spec.

Really wish this model was available before I bought my 2013.

Regarding the headlights, maybe they will offer that as a "Lighting" package for additional cost.

Ever since I got my Prada Lights, I don't ever want to go back to a regular single projector headlight look again.

If they don't offer it, then I'm likely to just purchase that set from Korea when available and install it just like with the Prada lights.

 

[larry'sown]

Regarding the headlights, maybe they will offer that as a "Lighting" package for additional cost.

Ever since I got my Prada Lights, I don't ever want to go back to a regular single projector headlight look again.

If they don't offer it, then I'm likely to just purchase that set from Korea when available and install it just like with the Prada lights.

Sorry to go off topic here, but did you ever get around to taking some pictures of the light output? I'm very curious to see how full LEDs compare to regular HIDs.

 

[DominicJE]

Sorry to go off topic here, but did you ever get around to taking some pictures of the light output? I'm very curious to see how full LEDs compare to regular HIDs.

I'm off tomorrow and Wednesday so I should finally be able to take some pictures at night. It's been a very busy few months. I'll update my thread when I get the pictures.

 

[larry'sown]

I'm off tomorrow and Wednesday so I should finally be able to take some pictures at night. It's been a very busy few months. I'll update my thread when I get the pictures.

Thanks!