Speaker cover in the trunk

[cdango]

Just an update on this subject. I went to the LA car show over the Thanksgiving holiday weekend and of course Hyundai was showing off it's new flagship vehicle (the Genesis in case you're wondering-lol)and I might add there was alot of people looking. I spoke to a Hyundai rep and he said they have received alot of complaints about the speaker cover only being on the V8 models, he wasn't sure of the production date cutoff but he did say the cover would come on all models manufactured after a certain date. Just like some of you I've already purchased and installed the cover. Once a cover comes as standard equipment I don't know if Hyundai will reimburse those of us that have already paid for it but I guess we should hang onto our receipts for now.

Just another FYI, I quickly got into the habit of looking in the trunks of almost any vehicle I could and the three that come to mind are the VW CC, Volvo S-series(not sure which one) and the Jaguar XF series which according to their website starts at $49,975 and I'm sure they had a loaded one at the car show. Guess what, every one of these vehicles was I guess you could say incomplete when it came to the trunk lining area. They all looked very similiar to the V6 Genesis (currently). None of them had a cover under the rear deck lid inside the trunk and all the sheet metal and speakers were exposed. So I guess Hyundai is not the only manufacturer who tried to cut costs in this area. I'm not sure if it might have been an option on these vehicles but at least it looks like Hyundai is listening and correcting the problem.

 

[MattP]

My dealer has been excellent with regards to the trunk speaker cover.

I stopped by and I asked them to order it and fit it for free, and they said no problem. The part should be here Tuesday or Wednesday. I am having it fitted Thursday. I'll let you know how it goes.

BTW I have a V6 Tech Package I purchased in mid September.

 

[Mgrig]

What was the cost of the cover?

Thx

 

[Gold Z]

I have a V6 with the tech package which I purchases less than a month ago that does not have the cover. I agree that Hyundai should Install the cover at no cost to those of us that purchased our cars recently.

 

[MattP]

What was the cost of the cover?

Thx

I had the trunk cover to my black/black V6 Tech package Genesis fitted today. It took the dealer barely 20 minutes to do it.

Best of all there was no cost to me for either the part or the fitting. To be clear I requested the trunk cover be fitted as it was missing when I purchased it and the dealer said no problem how can I help. There was no negotiation needed to get this done.



Obviously, I am VERY happy with my dealer with regard to the trunk cover issue.

 

[Mark_888]

I assume one would only send the info to that person if you are in the Southern Region?

 

[cviz]

I called Hyundai Corporate the other day and opened a case with them concerning my V6 w/ Tech Pkg not having a trunk cover. I explained that I was concerned about the possibility my Lexicon Sub-Woofer could be damaged by contents, such as luggage, in the trunk. My Genesis was manufactured on 11/11/08, so it's relatively new.

 

[Mark_888]

Just another FYI, I quickly got into the habit of looking in the trunks of almost any vehicle I could and the three that come to mind are the VW CC, Volvo S-series(not sure which one) and the Jaguar XF series which according to their website starts at $49,975 and I'm sure they had a loaded one at the car show. Guess what, every one of these vehicles was I guess you could say incomplete when it came to the trunk lining area. They all looked very similiar to the V6 Genesis (currently). None of them had a cover under the rear deck lid inside the trunk and all the sheet metal and speakers were exposed. So I guess Hyundai is not the only manufacturer who tried to cut costs in this area. I'm not sure if it might have been an option on these vehicles but at least it looks like Hyundai is listening and correcting the problem.

I have never seen a speaker cover either, although I admit that I have not examined a lot of luxury cars. One thing to keep in mind is that the bass response of a rear deck speaker could vary somewhat if a cover is put on. In theory one could get much better loading of the woofer using the entire trunk as an enclosure.

 

[cdango]

I just got off the phone with someone from the "Genesis Team" and a case was opened. I just have to fax a copy of the receipt from when I purchased the cover(I installed it myself) and he said I should hear back from him within 3-4 working days in regards to a possible refund. I'll post up the results as soon as I get an answer.

 

[Dave99GT]

If you get reimbursed, please post the phone number of the Genesis Team and the fax number you had to fax the receipt to. Thanks.

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[musher51]

I'll second that request, cdango. I paid for my trunk liner, too, and wouldn't mind having HMA reimburse me for that lil' "oversight" on their part.

Anyone else think it's kinda strange that Hyundai started installing them on the V8s at some point but not the V6s? Every other option difference between the two models is defensible, but not that one...

 

[bilmat]

Hi folks,

I've been lurking on this board and Edmund's Genesis forums for the past several weeks and finally took a $40K-plus plunge today. Just returned home with my brand new platinum/black 4.6 with Tech. Took a look in the trunk while it was being detailed at the dealership and saw the speaker cover as well as a trunk mat and cargo net, neither of which I particularly wanted, but for the invoice price of under $80 I wasn't going to say no deal. Paid exactly $500 over invoice for the rig. Probably could have done better had I been patient and shopped around, but this was the exact car I wanted, and platinum/black 4.6 with Tech Gens are as rare as hen's teeth here in the South Bay of Northern Calif. At least they were when I went shopping for one the day after the recent auto show in San Jose, which sold me on the vehicle.

The paperwork was completed, but it would still be a half-hour before the car would be fully detailed so I could take it home. While I was waiting I looked over a platinum/black 3.8 with the premium package on the showroom floor. Remembering this thread, I popped the trunk and there were the exposed speakers. I asked the Internet salesman I was dealing with about it and he gave me a blank stare. He did say, however, that they had just received the 3.8 along with my 4.6, and that both had just come from the port. So it appears that only the 4.6 gets the cover.

In any case, the 30-mile drive home in my new ride in Friday's typical 3:30 p.m. get-out-of-the-Bay-Area bumper-to-bumper traffic made me a tad nervous because of all the idiot tailgaters we have here in Northern California, but my new set of wheels and I made it home unscathed. I will now pour me a tall scotch-and-water and begin working my way through the manuals. I have an uneasy feeling it's going to be akin to reading "War & Peace" and then being tested on what I digested.

Have already ordered the Wing for the trunk and may pop for the center caps for the wheels. Need to investigate the latter a little more as I recall someone posting a "blistering" problem.

Thanks to everyone on this board for the valuable information that has been dispensed. I plan to add my two-cents from time to time, providing I don't suffer a stroke or go blind reading up on all the features of my new platinum beauty and how to make them work.

Bill

 

[DanTheMan]

I have never seen a speaker cover either, although I admit that I have not examined a lot of luxury cars. One thing to keep in mind is that the bass response of a rear deck speaker could vary somewhat if a cover is put on. In theory one could get much better loading of the woofer using the entire trunk as an enclosure.

Unless the speaker cover (covering the sub) is made of concrete, and is approximately 12" thick, it won't have any impact on audio quality. Bass signals are non-directional, and need something with the density of the concrete to (attempt to) make it directional.

Dan

 

[Mark_888]

Unless the speaker cover (covering the sub) is made of concrete, and is approximately 12" thick, it won't have any impact on audio quality. Bass signals are non-directional, and need something with the density of the concrete to (attempt to) make it directional. Dan

Dan, I wasn't talking about directionality of the sound output. I was talking about speaker loading in an enclosure. A woofer or even low midrange speaker needs an enclosure to work properly and typically the larger the enclosure, the more efficiently it works. A speaker mounted on rear deck (without a rear cover) is using the entire trunk as the enclosure.

A sound system (including the speaker crossover networks) is tuned and equalized for whatever enclosures are actually being used for each speaker. What we don't know is whether the sound system was equalized with or without the speaker cover. I haven’t seen the speaker cover, so I couldn’t say how much it would affect the sound compared to not using it. It’s probably not a big deal one way or the other, but it is interesting to note that theoretically the speaker may work better using the entire trunk as the speaker enclosure.

 

[DanTheMan]

Dan, I wasn't talking about directionality of the sound output. I was talking about speaker loading in an enclosure. A woofer or even low midrange speaker needs an enclosure to work properly and typically the larger the enclosure, the more efficiently it works. A speaker mounted on rear deck (without a rear cover) is using the entire trunk as the enclosure.

A sound system (including the speaker crossover networks) is tuned and equalized for whatever enclosures are actually being used for each speaker. What we don't know is whether the sound system was equalized with or without the speaker cover. I haven’t seen the speaker cover, so I couldn’t say how much it would affect the sound compared to not using it. It’s probably not a big deal one way or the other, but it is interesting to note that theoretically the speaker may work better using the entire trunk as the speaker enclosure.

I would agree. The goal in building enclosures for speakers is to make them as deep as the longest wavelength being produced by the driver (speaker, that is) itself. The 'openness' of the trunk w/o the cover would come much closer to fulfilling that requirement. Most enclosure manufacturers don't follow that rule of physics as it relates to audio, and therefore must put a cheap amplifier in or near the enclosure to amplify the sound--something that could be done w/o the use of an amp. I've heard a number of them in various (higher-end) applications.

Dan :>)

 

[musher51]

I'm all over this "debate", as I'm a long-time audiophile (it's the only issue that's challenged my 25-year-old marriage...the money I've spent on audio equipment makes my purchase of ANY car pale in comparison).

So when I bought my after-market trunk liner, I enlisted a buddy of mine to literally get in the trunk (closed!) and hold the liner up into position -- and then not -- while I did a bunch of A/B comparisons with bass-rich sources that I knew well. Initally I directed my friend to "install" and then "de-install" the cover, but eventually I asked him to do it randomly to see if I could discern the difference.

I couldn't. And I'm pretty bass-sensitive. (Ever heard Graham Maby, the bassist for Joe Jackson? Hoo wee).

I don't think the presence or absence of the trunk cover has any discernible effect on the bass response of the subwoofer.

All that said, someone on separate thread suggested leaving the "ski gate" open in the middle of back seat to enhance bass response. I haven't tried that yet, but I will soon. The non-directional nature of low frequencies makes bass tuning the most arcane of all audiophile 'tweak' nitpicking.

 

[moose66]

Wow! Now we are getting into what this forum is all about! Some of you guys should be selling some of the info I have read within this forum. Keep it up.

 

[cdango]

Got the fax off today so I am hoping to have an answer next week sometime. I will for sure post up the results along with the number/name and direct extension of the person I spoke to. He was very helpful and understanding but I don't wanna put hs direct contact info out until I see if he comes through for me.

 

[cdango]

OK so here's the latest update, it took a little longer than a couple days but overall not too bad. I originally called gave him my vehicle info and a case was opened. I faxed a copy of my invoice and cc receipt I had no repair order # because I had installed the cover myself. Within a week I got a call saying the reimbursement had been approved as a good will for the customer. A requisition form was mailed to me, I filled it out and faxed it back and I was told I should have a check back within 4-6 weeks. The only thiing is they said they would only reimburse the amount of the part, not the tax which was only abt $8 so I'm good with that. I wanted to post this up in case any of you want to get a claim started. I'll put up another post when I get the check but it appears like they are going to give me back my $$.

Phone number is 800-633-5151
Ask for someone on the Genesis team
Fax number I sent everything to is 801-736-3561

 

[scottdk]

I wonder if the cover is standard feature on the 4.6 V8 Genesis. Any other 4.6 owners have this cover?

4.6 with tech package here and I have the cover.