The Beef's G70

[cars2see]

Im just in the shadows waiting for @Beefer to get that piggyback

 

[Beefer]

Im just in the shadows waiting for @Beefer to get that piggyback

Honestly...I have a few months to think about it. I might...heck...probably will...LOL.

But now is not the time for me. It's cold out...daylight runs out quick...hardly anytime to enjoy. So if anything happens it will be the spring.

That will also give them time to tweak it and make it better and more stable. What I really hate is having to deal with replacing and regapping the spark plugs.

So give it 4-5 months

 

[Beefer]

WITH THAT SAID...I don't think there are any G70's that have it yet. So if Terry @ BMS wants to use me as a tester...I might bite !!

 

[cars2see]

use this man as a tester! i just want to see this car under 4 sec 0-60

 

[TurtleBoy]

That will also give them time to tweak it and make it better and more stable. What I really hate is having to deal with replacing and regapping the spark plugs.

How would that work when you take it in for service? I thought I read just pull the unit off and they won't know but if the plugs are gapped differently than they are supposed to be won't that affect how the engine is running. Or will you also have to replace the plugs with the originals before taking it in?

 

[cars2see]

How would that work when you take it in for service? I thought I read just pull the unit off and they won't know but if the plugs are gapped differently than they are supposed to be won't that affect how the engine is running. Or will you also have to replace the plugs with the originals before taking it in?

yeah to my understanding is you switch it back to stock plugs before taking it in and remove the piggyback.

 

[NLJ]

Honestly...I have a few months to think about it. I might...heck...probably will...LOL.

But now is not the time for me. It's cold out...daylight runs out quick...hardly anytime to enjoy. So if anything happens it will be the spring.

That will also give them time to tweak it and make it better and more stable. What I really hate is having to deal with replacing and regapping the spark plugs.

So give it 4-5 months

So why does the plugs need to be re-gapped again?
I want a fully plug and play solution. Don't want to mess with anything else!

 

[cars2see]

So why does the plugs need to be re-gapped again?
I want a fully plug and play solution. Don't want to mess with anything else!

i think they have to be re-gapped cuz the piggyback can fry the plugs at stock setting.. if im wording that wrong someone correct me lol

 

[NLJ]

i think they have to be re-gapped cuz the piggyback can fry the plugs at stock setting.. if im wording that wrong someone correct me lol

That sucks. So how does it work without the piggyback after the gaps are gapped?

 

[cars2see]

well if you remove the piggyback i believe the best thing to do would be to bring the plugs back to stock. if they stay in as gapped with no piggyback they can blow that way or youll run real lean? im not 100 % im sure someone here knows the answer

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[NLJ]

well if you remove the piggyback i believe the best thing to do would be to bring the plugs back to stock. if they stay in as gapped with no piggyback they can blow that way or youll run real lean? im not 100 % im sure someone here knows the answer

That does not sound very convenient at all. Too bad!

 

[larrymg1]

JB4 website:
"As is well documented for the Genesis platform, both the 3.3L and 2.0L, is prone to spark blow out at both stock and higher than stock boost levels. At a minimum, the factory spark plug gap should be closed to 0.022″. Alternatively, replacement spark plugs can be used that offers a stronger spark and are more reliable than stock. If you have any questions regarding our spark plug suggestions and JB4 map guide, please click here and ask in our support forum." Alternate plugs: Denso Iridium Power Spark Plug Set (Pack of Six) 5346 IKH24 - Genesis Owners

If I were to modify I would use high-performance plugs and replace those with the original unaltered gapped plugs.

 

[NLJ]

JB4 website:
"As is well documented for the Genesis platform, both the 3.3L and 2.0L, is prone to spark blow out at both stock and higher than stock boost levels. At a minimum, the factory spark plug gap should be closed to 0.022″. Alternatively, replacement spark plugs can be used that offers a stronger spark and are more reliable than stock. If you have any questions regarding our spark plug suggestions and JB4 map guide, please click here and ask in our support forum." Alternate plugs: Denso Iridium Power Spark Plug Set (Pack of Six) 5346 IKH24 - Genesis Owners

If I were to modify I would use high-performance plugs and replace those with the original unaltered gapped plugs.

How is it well documented in the 2.0T?
It's fairly new and was only available in Canada until recently!
Anyway isn't there a competitor offering for the Stinger?

 

[Beefer]

It is safe to assume that you have to replace the plugs with better ones...but they need to be gapped. This is fine.

But...

1. If I remove the piggyback before a dealer visit...can these plugs stay in. If I have to replace the plugs back to stock...I am NOT doing this. Screw that. Too much. As mentioned...I want it simple.
2. If the plugs can stay in...will the dealer care? Just b/c I "upgraded" my plugs does not mean/assume I use a piggyback. They can guess all they want. It's like putting in a better air filter...would they care?

To recap...if I cannot keep the upgraded plugs in the car (b/c either they won't work without the piggyback or the dealer will bitch)...I am not doing it.

 

[dareckibmw]

Just remove the JB4 unit, takes ~4 minutes and don't worry about the spark plugs. Who the hell is going to remove them and why? ....better yet - measure the gap?!

It's like saying, I'd have to put my stock wheels/tires back on, b/c if I show up at the dealer with my aftermarket wheels and high performance summer tires on them, they would assume I abuse/track my car, then they would decline to change the engine oil? lol

 

[Beefer]

Just remove the JB4 unit, takes ~4 minutes and don't worry about the spark plugs. Who the hell is going to remove them and why? ....better yet - measure the gap?!

Well that is exactly what I thought up until now...which was fine. But then folks started posting...and I got a little freaked out.

What is the service interval where they even replace plugs? I may not even reach that mileage with my 3 year lease !

If they are not replacing plugs...they would never look at them...right? It's not like they pull them out to clean them.

So I will actually call the dealer and ask if I can put in better performing plugs prior to doing this. Basically saying that the ones in the car are not the best. Vague sorta shit like that. If they immediately say that would void the warranty...I'm out.

So...few more things to consider here. But yeah...if I can leave them in...I am still in.

 

[TurtleBoy]

I guess I'm not following the "leave the re-gapped plugs in" theory. The changing of the gaps must have some effect on how the engine runs without the tuner connected, no? Or is it so slight that without testing it, which wouldn't be done during an oil change, it wouldn't be noticed?

 

[cars2see]

yeah i want to know how the car will run with the gapped plugs without the tuner

 

[dareckibmw]

yeah i want to know how the car will run with the gapped plugs without the tuner

The car doesn't run different because of a different spark plugs. Even if I'd tell you, you wouldn't see/fell or hear it.

Yes, my car is tuned, I have Denso spark plugs regapped.

You guys are overreacting, lol

 

[cars2see]

well the only reason i ask is because in my SC mustang if i put the wrong gap or a diff plug that could have potentially devastating damage to the motor. so im asking based off of that. didnt know how related it was across the board