What is your biggest complaint about the Hyundai Genesis?

[PMCErnie]

^ JTREADWAY, you sure have a bunch of gripes. Why not be realistic and weed out the specious ones? For example, if you change your route, your Nav is going to nag you until you CANCEL ROUTE. This problem is of your own making. Your complaint about having to enter the state first in your Nav is equally without merit. That's the way the system works. It is not broken. I don't see a major problem with your Bluetooth streaming connections either. Good luck with the rest of the pile. Maybe someone else here can give you some suggestions.

 

[gsneediv]

The only thing I would "complain" about would be that the Genesis does not have a "sport" mode which would change the dynamics of the shift points on the transmission and the stiffness of the suspension.

 

[jtreadway]

^PMCERNIE, I will have to respectfully disagree about the Nav recalculation issue being specious. When I compare the Genesis NAV system to those in my Toyota's or Ford's, it seems pretty clear that Hyundai's is truly lacking in it's ability to dynamically calculate a new route. If I was driving down a road in the middle of Iowa it may be shorter to turn around. But in an urban area, or even just on the highway, the Hyundai Nav system is just not as refined as other manufacturers in it's ability to recalculate a new route.

Having to preset the State in which I wish to perform navigation is admittedly a minor annoyance, and is likely a non issue for most owners, unless perhaps they live near a border or two of adjoining states. Then it becomes more apparent how much better Google Maps voice input is compared to Hyundai's, but then again, Google Maps is probably better than any OEM Nav system. Supposedly the new Genesis is going to an Android based system, so perhaps that will be much better.

I really do like my Genesis, and I was just trying to respond to the thread's question "What is your biggest complaint about your Genesis?" with some specificity, instead of just throwing out a generic "The Nav system isn't as good as I would like it to be."

Cheers!

 

[Vince2]

Jtreadway Your complaints are "spot on" AND ,since you have a 2013 model, your Nav/entertainment system is an improvement over previous versions! Those of us with pre 2013 Genesis tech models cannot stream Bluetooth (curiously those with the "lesser" premium version can stream Bluetooth), if you think the IPod integration and Nav are sub par in your vehicle you aught to check out the previous version!

Good luck with Hyundai customer service. There seems to be a major disconnect between "corporate" and the field... Whether its about routine maintenance or electrical gremlins the two divisions don't communicate at all.

 

[wchettel]

OK, here goes.

I have a 2013 R-Spec 5.0 Sedan. Some folks that have posted their complaints have not mentioned the year and option level of their Genesis - I think it makes a difference. My car has a manufacture date of Mar 13, 2013 and I purchased it on May 26, 2013. It's only got 3,400 miles on it now.

My R-Spec was delivered with Continental ContiProContact P234/45 R19 95V tires, so I do not have what seems to be the #1 complaint (Dunlop tires). I do not have any audio system problems, my Samsung Galaxy S III connects and syncs with no problems, the bluetooth works great and I use a 64 GB USB flash drive as my music jukebox. I have used the BlueLink app on my phone to remotely send NAV destinations to my Genesis. And, the NAV package works great - I even found a setting that makes it take advantage of my SunPass transponder. Basically, the electronics in the Genesis have worked pretty much flawlessly. My Genesis puts a big smile on my face every time I open the door to get in it!!

Here's my complaints:

1. When I'm on a highway cruising at 70-75 mph and need to pass a car or truck in front of me, there is an agonizingly long delay till the Genesis decides what gear to downshift to and deliver is power. It's only a few seconds, but it seems like forever especially when there's traffic coming up behind you. I mash the pedal quickly to the floor, but it still takes its time. This is something that I definitely did NOT expect from a 5.0 V8 that's supposed to produce 429 HP. You could almost call this a 'safety hazard'.
2. I'm disappointed that the front passenger seat does not have the same controls as the drivers seat.
3. The left foot rest / dead pedal is not positioned properly. When I position the seat so that my right foot is comfortable on the gas pedal, my left foot can barely reach the dead pedal. It seems as if it were designed for someone who's left leg is about 2 to 3 inches longer than the right. When I'm cruising on a highway, my left foot is always wandering around looking for a place to set.
4. Sun glare on the NAV screen around the middle of the day is bad at times.
5. A mute function on the audio system would be nice occasionally. (just a nit-pick)

 

[mdavid727]

I too have the 2013 R-Spec - and my biggest complaint....let the IPod remember the shuttle setting after the vehicle has been turned off! I can do this now without even looking at the screen I've done it so many times - so annoying.

 

[ksoze]

I too have the 2013 R-Spec - and my biggest complaint....let the IPod remember the shuttle setting after the vehicle has been turned off! I can do this now without even looking at the screen I've done it so many times - so annoying.

BMW has had the same issue, but the work around was to use one of the programmable radio buttons to make the multiple step selection to shuffle. Still required at start up, but was at least a one button press.

 

[mdavid727]

One button press I could handle - wish we could self program a macro for this.

 

[PMCErnie]

^PMCERNIE, I will have to respectfully disagree about the Nav recalculation issue being specious. When I compare the Genesis NAV system to those in my Toyota's or Ford's, it seems pretty clear that Hyundai's is truly lacking in it's ability to dynamically calculate a new route. If I was driving down a road in the middle of Iowa it may be shorter to turn around. But in an urban area, or even just on the highway, the Hyundai Nav system is just not as refined as other manufacturers in it's ability to recalculate a new route.

Having to preset the State in which I wish to perform navigation is admittedly a minor annoyance, and is likely a non issue for most owners, unless perhaps they live near a border or two of adjoining states. Then it becomes more apparent how much better Google Maps voice input is compared to Hyundai's, but then again, Google Maps is probably better than any OEM Nav system. Supposedly the new Genesis is going to an Android based system, so perhaps that will be much better.

I really do like my Genesis, and I was just trying to respond to the thread's question "What is your biggest complaint about your Genesis?" with some specificity, instead of just throwing out a generic "The Nav system isn't as good as I would like it to be."

Cheers!

I guess I was just feeling sorry for the poor SOBs at Hyundai who have to listen to your long list of gripes, real and imagined.

 

[DeadRun]

My Genesis is quite spacious. Also, I think some of you need to do some spell checks. lol

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[mugolini@wi.rr.com]

1) I can't leave the heated seats on. They always default to off so remote start is only partially helpful.
2) There is no charger jack in the back seat area.

 

[scottdk]

1) I can't leave the heated seats on. They always default to off so remote start is only partially helpful.
2) There is no charger jack in the back seat area.

Most vehicles with heated seats will not actually heat up unless the seat sensor senses a person sitting in the seat. All of the cars I've owned with heated seats have been this way, including my '03 Outback.

 

[acr]

Those of us with pre 2013 Genesis tech models cannot stream Bluetooth

So 2013 Tech cars can factory stream Bluetooth??

 

[Mark63021]

When I'm on a highway cruising at 70-75 mph and need to pass a car or truck in front of me, there is an agonizingly long delay till the Genesis decides what gear to downshift to and deliver is power. It's only a few seconds, but it seems like forever especially when there's traffic coming up behind you. I mash the pedal quickly to the floor, but it still takes its time. This is something that I definitely did NOT expect from a 5.0 V8 that's supposed to produce 429 HP. You could almost call this a 'safety hazard'.

This is interesting. Having an identical car, I've never noticed any kind of delay in acceleration at hiway (or any) speeds. Quite the opposite, I've been amazed by the amount of instantaneous power available. I have to wonder if this might be a "training" issue for the car's ECU. I understand it tunes or trains itself to the driver's habits.

Oh, and I've found my first "problem" with the car: It's a known issue for some where AM/FM do not work (no audio output) when Surround is enabled in the radio setup. Not sure if I wanna bother taking it in for that tho.

 

[Mark63021]

So 2013 Tech cars can factory stream Bluetooth??

Yes. The car's audio system will play any audio source (MP3's YouTube, Spotify, etc.) from the phone wirelessly.

 

[DeadRun]

Although I really like my '12 Genesis (4.6), I think the following would make it even better:

(1) if the seat heaters would remember my setting from the last time I drove the car

(2) if the stereo screen would show the album cover of the currently playing song along with the other song info (like my Pioneer aftermarket player in my 350Z does)

(3) (and biggest) if the cup holders were not so close together that two large soda cups are always competing for the space. This is also my wife's ONLY complaint with the Genesis.

 

[Fast55]

My Genesis is quite spacious. Also, I think some of you need to do some spell checks. lol

I'm guessing you think "specious" is a mistake. It's not.

Notwithstanding the fact that the thread has been dead over 1.5 years, I too feel some of these complaints are "specious".

Navigation in particular is of course, a very subjective item, but it will take a lot of convincing and possibly the good part of a bottle of El Tesoro to get me to agree that Toyota makes anything that's nearly as good as my 2013.

Bluelink works very well, and voice recognition is as good or better than anything I've had to this date including BMW, GM, MB, and Lexus.

Again, these are all pretty subjective things.

If anyone wants to find a common ground for bitching, I'll say:

1. Quality of seat leather is mediocre at best.
2. There is little to no excuse to have deleted the passenger seat cooling function when it's available in KDM cars.
3. While the cars themselves are a good value, the resale on them is not.

 

[wchettel]

This is interesting. Having an identical car, I've never noticed any kind of delay in acceleration at hiway (or any) speeds. Quite the opposite, I've been amazed by the amount of instantaneous power available. I have to wonder if this might be a "training" issue for the car's ECU. I understand it tunes or trains itself to the driver's habits.
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Interesting? I'd call it depressing. How would I go about "training" my Genesis to deliver this instantaneous power? Most of my driving is around town, but every 3 or 4 weeks my wife and I like to take the Genesis out for a little 3 or 4 day road trip. If it's possible, I'd love to "train" my Genesis to downshift and deliver its power 'now' so I can make a pass.

 

[Vince2]

So 2013 Tech cars can factory stream Bluetooth??

Yes

 

[shagnat]

Interesting? I'd call it depressing. How would I go about "training" my Genesis to deliver this instantaneous power? Most of my driving is around town, but every 3 or 4 weeks my wife and I like to take the Genesis out for a little 3 or 4 day road trip. If it's possible, I'd love to "train" my Genesis to downshift and deliver its power 'now' so I can make a pass.

It's not just the Genesis. I read an article about how the computers are pretty slow to respond (dunno why they're slow) to these downshifts.

The last 4 cars I've owned (2 Hyundais, 1 Toyota, 1 Buick) all had the same issue. Now, I do have a cloud over my head (born with it) but, I seriously doubt I'm the only person who has had 4 cars over 2 decades with the same downshift issue and it not be a common problem with a huge majority of modern vehicles.

If I can find the article, I'll post a link to it here...... it was very insightful and wish I had read it long ago to save my frustration a bit.