Turning ESC off ...for real...With Video Proof!!

[Tailwalker]

Very nice indeed! Just read this front to back. I hope to do this soon.

 

[TOMMYJR9]

What about the 2013 's ?

 

[TOMMYJR9]

Is the ESC button in the on position or the off position before you remove the fuse & when you start the car ?

 

[dareckibmw]

Is the ESC button in the on position or the off position before you remove the fuse & when you start the car ?

yep, its working on '13 as well

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mWSRYv5hO5Q


- start the car
- pop the hood
- pull the fuse
- wait 10-15 sec. then press ESC button
- wait 10-15 sec. then put the fuse back in

- done, off you go

 

[thompithak3182]

yep, its working on '13 as well

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mWSRYv5hO5Q


- start the car
- pop the hood
- pull the fuse
- wait 10-15 sec. then press ESC button
- wait 10-15 sec. then put the fuse back in

- done, off you go

well, u got the 5.0 and i have the 3.8 me and another guy on this thread has the 3.8 and it didnt work for both of us.

 

[scottdk]

The Genesis would be a monster if the 1st gen had a mechanical LSD rear differential That would be a real treat! Without the proper diff, this mod is fun, but makes quick work of my passenger side rear rubber I'm sure Hyundai will not be using a mechanical rear diff (locking diff) anytime soon.

 

[TOMMYJR9]

Thanks for the post

 

[zielritter]

well, u got the 5.0 and i have the 3.8 me and another guy on this thread has the 3.8 and it didnt work for both of us.

Yep, the pull, wait, replace method appears to do nothing on the V6. Jury is still out whether ESC is actually disabled when it's out altogether and the ESC, ABS and Brake lights are on. The side affect is loosing your speedo, hence why I want to install a switch.

Has anyone noticed too that there are two more VDC/ESC (marked 1 and 2) fuses in the other under-hood fuse box? Pulling these seems to have a similar affect, however the dash lights still turn off when replaced just like the original fuse.

I tried looking at the schematic on the Hyundai Tech site but I'm too dumb to interpret its meaning. Anyways, just a thought. Don't know what these other 2 fuses do.

 

[zielritter]

So, I got a kill switch installed and run into the cabin next to my sub-woofer gain knob. Not the cleanest of jobs but you can't see any wires when the door is closed in the cabin.

One thing peculiar I've noticed, at least with the V6, is that mashing the pedal never results in squealing the tires. Even with the ESC OFF or the ESC fuse disabled mashing the gas produces a slight hesitation before you will feel the engine put all of its torque to the tires.

To me, this is definitely a power train preservation system that even pulling the fuse won't remedy (again, at least on the V6). I did notice that with the fuse pulled (or switched off now I guess) that progressively getting on the gas without just mashing it easily allows you to do a burnout.

I'm uncertain as to which method allows for quicker off the line performance but I fully intend to test both . On a side note - my Magnaflow has developed a slight leak at one of the collars that connects the axle-back portion to the rest of the system. That's what I get for not just having my shop weld them together initially. Will be fixing that tonight.

 

[thompithak3182]

So, I got a kill switch installed and run into the cabin next to my sub-woofer gain knob. Not the cleanest of jobs but you can't see any wires when the door is closed in the cabin.

One thing peculiar I've noticed, at least with the V6, is that mashing the pedal never results in squealing the tires. Even with the ESC OFF or the ESC fuse disabled mashing the gas produces a slight hesitation before you will feel the engine put all of its torque to the tires.

To me, this is definitely a power train preservation system that even pulling the fuse won't remedy (again, at least on the V6). I did notice that with the fuse pulled (or switched off now I guess) that progressively getting on the gas without just mashing it easily allows you to do a burnout.

I'm uncertain as to which method allows for quicker off the line performance but I fully intend to test both . On a side note - my Magnaflow has developed a slight leak at one of the collars that connects the axle-back portion to the rest of the system. That's what I get for not just having my shop weld them together initially. Will be fixing that tonight.

well, i give up on the esc turn off...

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[zielritter]

It's looking like disabling esc for the V6 is a no go using this method. I did a few 0-60 runs in my usual spot with temperatures comparable to previous tests. I had reset my ECU recently after installing a CAI, but with the esc fuse switched off my runs were no faster, and possibly even a touch slower, than what I was able to get by just pressing the esc off button.

One thing odd that I did notice was that the speedo isn't automatically disabled with this fuse bypassed. It takes about 10 minutes of driving before it just stops and remains at 0 mph.

Anyways, just thought I would bring some closure to the V6 crowd. Pulling the fuse does not appear to influence off the line performance or fully disable the stability control.

 

[karak]

Hey guys. Any of you that have done a kill switch would it be possible to get a slightly more detailed instruction on how to do this. The one poster posted some pictures but left some puzzles on some steps. It would be really appreciated.

V8 here.

 

[TOMMYJR9]

Mine did not work. Car is running ESC in the on position. Pop open hood then removed fuse waited 15 seconds then pressed the ESC button then replaced fuse. No difference . Here is a picture.

 

[dareckibmw]

@TOMMYJR9

I'm pretty sure I had these 3 ON and it worked. I can check it out again for ya, once I get back from the trip ~3pm (central time)

(my R-spec is 2013)

 

[TOMMYJR9]

Please can you

 

[dareckibmw]

It'll be my pleasure, just hold on tight

 

[drpearso]

Re: Turning ESC off ...for real

Correct! The ESC is also known as a "nanny." Traction, is a MUST in any situation and when traction is lost, the NANNY steps in to say..."Hey, wait a minute....if you dont know how to drive with little or no traction...I will MAKE YOU HAVE TRACTION!" Some cars ESC is more disabling than others and by far, the Genesis is the worst I have seen yet. The Genesis is totally diabled when the nanny kicks in which can be even more deadly than not having it at all.

Spinning your wheels in not always a bad thing when you know how to handle it but an over compensated ESC system will ruin any hopes of a quick getaway.

I dont mind the ESC...especially in wet/snowy conditions because it actually helps...but here in the south, I have no use for it!



When ESC is truly off, via the mod below, YOU take full ownership of the throttle. If you want to chirp...chirp away, if you want to ball the tires...smoke em, if you want to drift a corner, drift away!

Just remember that you are on your own and if you over do it, especially in a corner, the Nanny will not step in and say "settle down son" but the DITCH will let you know!

Pinggolf - I agree with all the issues you posted regarding the ESC. It drives me crazy when it shuts me down when I'm pulling out with intentions to jump on it in order to not impede anyone that is behind, or around me. I understand how you override the ESC as per your explanation you posted earlier, but I have a question which I will try out myself.

I've very very lightly touched the brake and floored it and it simply burns as much as anyone would want to or not want to. So, my question is, if I very lightly have my foot on the brake when pulling out in one of those 'need to get moving ASAP' moments, I wan to test to see if the ESC will be off since I'm very lightly touching the brake (not enough to hold the car still or eat up the pads/rotors etc.

I'll try that just to see if it works. If it does, at least that will be a way to override the ESC when needing to accelerate in order to not impede someone. Regards, and will report back what happens, if anything at all.

 

[dareckibmw]

@TOMMYJR9

In first picture: this is when I pulled the fuse out. Notice, ABS, ESC, EPB and BRAKE lights are ON.

In second picture: after I pressed "ESC OFF" button 3-4 times, then put the fuse back in -ESC, EPB, AUTO HOLD are ON .....and this is where the fun kicks in

.....shortly, after that I have received an email from BlueLink they're worst than NSA

We have received an alert indicating maintenance is Due for your 2013 Genesis (Vin #) KM***************.
Current Mileage: 5225.7 MILES.
For more information please visit myhyundai.com or your Hyundai Service Center.

 

[GS300CKY]

So I did the test and either I'm doing it wrong or the 2009 v8 sucks.... I started my car pulled the fuse then replaced the fuse after pushing the esc button. The esc light was light up on the dash but nothing else stayed lit up.
I tried mashing the gas on some dry slick concrete and I didn't even get a chirp.

 

[zielritter]

So I did the test and either I'm doing it wrong or the 2009 v8 sucks.... I started my car pulled the fuse then replaced the fuse after pushing the esc button. The esc light was light up on the dash but nothing else stayed lit up.
I tried mashing the gas on some dry slick concrete and I didn't even get a chirp.

No, you're V8 doesn't suck. I can only chirp my tires when it's super cold or the pavement I'm on is super hot. This is with ESC off.

That being said, mashing the gas to the ground will not spin the tires. If I do more of a half throttle punch though I can get a squeak.

Hyundai put some sort of undefeatable nanny control on the V6 that doesn't allow you to get max power from a dig. I suspect something similar for your 2009 Tau and this is why our 0-60 numbers seem a tad on the slow side compared to other vehicles with comparable power.