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2015 Genesis "Likes":

They are 245/40-19's on the front and 275/35-19's on the rear, only offered through Hyundai at this time and suppose to be offered through Tire Rack etc in the near future. I spoke with a Hankook representative about this when we were doing the HMA event at Disney.
Hankook is a South Korean company, so maybe they are just new tires (or new sizes) that have not made it to the US yet.
 
Gameday22 - Can you explain more about this Flash to Pass feature?

Automatic lane-change indication feature (flash to pass); tapping the lever partway towards the left or right signal position and immediately releasing it causes the applicable turn indicators to flash three times. On the new Genesis this feature is now adjustable to 3,5,7 times before automatically turning off.

What some people think is flash to pass...(illegal in several states)

In the United States, the legality of headlight flashing varies from state to state. Some states consider that drivers have a First Amendment right to flash their headlights. In other states, law enforcement officers give citations for headlight flashing under three types of laws: (1) laws prohibiting a person from obstructing a police investigation, (2) laws prohibiting a person from having flashing lights on their vehicle, and (3) laws prohibiting shining a vehicle’s high beams at oncoming traffic. The specific language of each law varies by state along with courts’ holdings on whether their respective laws prohibit headlight flashing. Additionally, although not legally binding, the state driver’s manual of some states suggests flashing high beams under specific scenarios (e.g. if an oncoming vehicle is using its high beams, driver’s manuals suggest a motorist flash his or her high beams momentarily).
 
Sorry I'm using the wrong word I think, they are Asymmetrical and are marked (THIS SIDE OUT)....which I think means it can just be put on the other side of the vehicle without remounting to the rim??
The last statement is true, that a tire that says THIS SIDE OUT can be put on the other side of the vehicle without remounting to the rim. Only a Directional Tire cannot be mounted on the other side of a vehicle. Directional Tires have an arrow on the sidewall to indicate what direction they must rotate.

Here is a discussion of symmetrical/asymmetrical and directional/non-direction tires.
http://www.barrystiretech.com/directionalandasymmetricaltires.html
 
I already did my research on this and tire availability on the stock 2015 V8 in after market is readily available and actually has more choices than the Previous Gen V8. 4 pages in fact.
I didn't mean to suggest that those tire sizes were new to every tire manufacturer, but maybe new (or relatively new) to Hankook in that tire model. I don't think you would want a Summer Tire in Canada.
 
I did not realize there were previous Bluetooth connectivity issues and assume this was with Samsung products. I have had iphones and never once did I have an issue on my 2010 or 2012.



It's not an issue par-say just a really slow connection time, there is times I'd be a mile or more down the road before my phone connects...my LG phone did the same thing before I switched to Samsung. I don't own an iPhone so I'm not able to comment on how fast/slow it connects by comparison. On the new Genny it's much faster for Android based phones and iPhone's alike I'd imagine.
 
I didn't mean to suggest that those tire sizes were new to every tire manufacturer, but maybe new (or relatively new) to Hankook in that tire model. I don't think you would want a Summer Tire in Canada.

Here (Quebec) we have no choice, by law you must have winters during the winter time. They are now going to pass a law to make people put on summer tires in summer because the cheap crowd are bypassing the law by running winters year round which we both know is a safety issue. Due to this law it is very common for dealers to throw in winters as part of the deal when purchasing a new car. :cool: At the end of the day it is not more expensive as wear is divided between the 2 sets, just makes the roads safer in general IMHO.
 
It's not an issue par-say just a really slow connection time, there is times I'd be a mile or more down the road before my phone connects...my LG phone did the same thing before I switched to Samsung. I don't own an iPhone so I'm not able to comment on how fast/slow it connects by comparison. On the new Genny it's much faster for Android based phones and iPhone's alike I'd imagine.

The iphone or even nav system does take a few minutes to initiate. A mile down the road is about right. ;)
 
Here (Quebec) we have no choice, by law you must have winters during the winter time. They are now going to pass a law to make people put on summer tires in summer because the cheap crowd are bypassing the law by running winters year round which we both know is a safety issue. Due to this law it is very common for dealers to throw in winters as part of the deal when purchasing a new car. :cool: At the end of the day it is not more expensive as wear is divided between the 2 sets, just makes the roads safer in general IMHO.
A true "Summer Tire" is not just a tire that is not a Winter Tire, but a special design for high traction on dry surfaces, but not good in rain or snow. Very few people, even in the southern parts of the US, use Summer Tires. They typically use All-Season Tires, because they are also useful in heavy rain, not just snow.

I would be very surprised if Canada will pass a law that mandates the use of "true" Summer Tires. If you look at the tire rack listing you provided, the only Hankook tires in the list were Summer Tires. Not sure which exact Hankook tires come with the US or Canadian Genesis models.
 
A true "Summer Tire" is not just a tire that is not a Winter Tire, but a special design for high traction on dry surfaces, but not good in rain or snow. Very few people, even in the southern parts of the US, use Summer Tires. They typically use All-Season Tires, because they are also useful in heavy rain, not just snow.

I would be very surprised if Canada will pass a law that mandates the use of "true" Summer Tires. If you look at the tire rack listing you provided, the only Hankook tires in the list were Summer Tires. Not sure which exact Hankook tires come with the US or Canadian Genesis models.

I go by tire rack and according to their listings you either have summer or all season or winter. As for the 4 pages of tires that do fit the V8 genesis I listed, only 5 tires of those are considered all season. In the case of a law being passed I am sure all season or summer will be allowed. As for all season, those will always be a compromise on dry, wet or snow performance. Personally my favorite tire is the Continental Extreme Contact DWS. Even though this is an all season, it is an Ultra High Performance All Season and it really shines in all areas. Heck, I even have these on my Mercedes SL which is only used from May 1st to Nov 1st.
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I go by tire rack and according to their listings you either have summer or all season or winter. As for the 4 pages of tires that do fit the V8 genesis I listed, only 5 tires of those are considered all season. In the case of a law being passed I am sure all season or summer will be allowed. As for all season, those will always be a compromise on dry, wet or snow performance. Personally my favorite tire is the Continental Extreme Contact DWS. Even though this is an all season, it is an Ultra High Performance All Season and it really shines in all areas. Heck, I even have these on my Mercedes SL which is only used from May 1st to Nov 1st.
Yes, I agree that if Winter Tires are not allowed year around, then Summer Tires would be acceptable from a legal standpoint. My point is that very few people drive on true Summer Tires even in the southern US, and not sure why you think Summer Tires would be wise in Canada, since you never really know when it might snow (not to mention rain). I would stick to All-Season tires.

What exact model of tire comes OEM on the 2015 Genesis (we know the brand is Hankook), and are those exact same tires on Tirerack.com?
 
What exact model of tire comes OEM on the 2015 Genesis (we know the brand is Hankook), and are those exact same tires on Tirerack.com?

That would be good to know. Tirerack has no Hankook tires in the V8 size showing that are all season - all are ultra performance summers. That would signify as someone stated above they have a new tire for this car not yet listed on Tirerack. There are other options for all season in that size for those who switch out, but the OEM tires on The V8 must nb new.
 
Hankook Ventus S1 Noble2 18" comes with the base '15.
 
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Hankook Ventus S1 Noble2 18" comes with the base '15.
Tirerack classifies that as a Ultra High Performance All-Season.

Right now, it is the top ranked tire by customers in that category, beating out the Continental ExtremeContact DWS. However, the Total Miles Reported for the Hankook responses is quite low, so its reviews are based on a small sample size, as compared to the Continental DWS which is more than 100 times higher Total Miles Reported.
 
Automatic lane-change indication feature (flash to pass); tapping the lever partway towards the left or right signal position and immediately releasing it causes the applicable turn indicators to flash three times. On the new Genesis this feature is now adjustable to 3,5,7 times before automatically turning off.

Thank You gameday22 That is a pretty neat option.
 
A true "Summer Tire" is not just a tire that is not a Winter Tire, but a special design for high traction on dry surfaces, but not good in rain or snow. Very few people, even in the southern parts of the US, use Summer Tires. They typically use All-Season Tires, because they are also useful in heavy rain, not just snow.

I would be very surprised if Canada will pass a law that mandates the use of "true" Summer Tires. If you look at the tire rack listing you provided, the only Hankook tires in the list were Summer Tires. Not sure which exact Hankook tires come with the US or Canadian Genesis models.

This is a common misconception that summer tires are not good in the rain. Here's an article from Tire Rack mentioning that summer tires, not all-season ones, are best for rainy conditions:

Best Tires for Rain
Monday, June 18, 2012 by Ben Rooney

Traveling in the rain can be a nerve-wracking experience without the right tires. A tire with superior wet weather traction can be a big safety benefit for drivers who need to travel at speed in wet conditions.

I often hear customers say, "It rains a lot where I live, so I need to have an all-season tire." While the name all-season implies that a tire might be the best tire for every season, the reality is that the compound and tread pattern of an all-season tire is actually a compromise between wet, dry and snow capability. Each of these conditions have different requirements, so an all-season tire actually gives away some wet and dry traction to gain light snow traction.

Summer tires are the ultimate wet weather performers. They have sticky compounds to grip wet pavement and tread patterns designed to let water flow through and away from the contact patch. The current class leaders in wet and overall traction are the Michelin Pilot Super Sport and Bridgestone Potenza S-04.

Two general notes about wet traction apply to pretty much any set of tires: Tread depth is essential to good wet weather performance. We have an entire tech article dedicated to illustrating how important adequate tread depth is when encountering wet conditions. Second, tire inflation is also a vital component to proper tire performance in wet weather and you can find in depth information as well as the meaning behind the image at the top left by reading "Air Pressure vs. Wet Performance."

If you live in a warm climate and need the best wet traction, definitely consider a summer tire. Regardless of where you are or what type of tire you have, if rain is in the forecast make sure that your tread depth and tire inflation are up to spec.

http://blog.tirerack.com/blog/bens-blog/best-tires-for-rain
 
  1. The tire that comes on the 2015 Base Genesis is the Hankook Ventus S1 Noble2, which is classified as Ultra High Performance All-Season. I don't know about other trim levels in USA or Canada, but maybe members who have a 2015 can fill us in on what exact tire model they have.
  2. That is an interesting blog from Tirerack.com. Unfortunately, it does not actually correspond to the user ratings of wet traction and hydroplaning resistance on their website:
Compare Grand Touring Summer:
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/surveyresults/surveydisplay.jsp?type=GT
with Grand Touring All-Season:
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/surveyresults/surveydisplay.jsp?type=GTAS

Compare Ultra High Performance Summer:
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/surveyresults/surveydisplay.jsp?type=UHP
with Ultra High Performance All-Season:
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/surveyresults/surveydisplay.jsp?type=UHPAS

For both Grand Touring and Ultra High Performance, the best All-Season tires generally rate higher in wet traction and hydroplaning resistance than the Summer Tires.​
 
  1. The tire that comes on the 2015 Base Genesis is the Hankook Ventus S1 Noble2, which is classified as Ultra High Performance All-Season. I don't know about other trim levels in USA or Canada, but maybe members who have a 2015 can fill us in on what exact tire model they have.
  2. That is an interesting blog from Tirerack.com. Unfortunately, it does not actually correspond to the user ratings of wet traction and hydroplaning resistance on their website:
Compare Grand Touring Summer:
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/surveyresults/surveydisplay.jsp?type=GT
with Grand Touring All-Season:
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/surveyresults/surveydisplay.jsp?type=GTAS

Compare Ultra High Performance Summer:
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/surveyresults/surveydisplay.jsp?type=UHP
with Ultra High Performance All-Season:
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/surveyresults/surveydisplay.jsp?type=UHPAS

For both Grand Touring and Ultra High Performance, the best All-Season tires generally rate higher in wet traction and hydroplaning resistance than the Summer Tires.​

Do you honestly believe a tire which is designed specifically for summer which means the best traction available for hot and wet will not perform as well as a compromised all season tire? Hmmm, sounds like the guy who think premium gas is better for a car when designed to use regular. :rolleyes:
http://www.popularmechanics.com/cars/how-to/products/know-your-tires-all-season-vs-summer-9647443
 
Do you honestly believe a tire which is designed specifically for summer which means the best traction available for hot and wet will not perform as well as a compromised all season tire? Hmmm, sounds like the guy who think premium gas is better for a car when designed to use regular. :rolleyes:
http://www.popularmechanics.com/cars/how-to/products/know-your-tires-all-season-vs-summer-9647443
I posted the Tirerack survey results in my previous post, which clearly shows that the best All-Season tires have better wet performance than so-called Summer Tires. Maybe you don't believe the surveys (I do believe them fore reasons described below), but don't shoot the messenger.

The real problem is that the guy who wrote the blog and the guy who wrote the Popular Mechanics article are out-out-date on the latest tire technology. The best All-Season tires have new and sophisticated tire compounds that make the old generalizations invalid, and many tires use more than one compound at a time. It is no longer absolutely true that one has to compromise on tire performance in cold weather and tire performance in wet weather with the new (but expensive) tire compounds.

The other thing is that wet performance, especially resistance of hydroplaning, has more to do with tire tread patterns and sipping than the tire compound. Most All-Season tires have aggressive tire treads, and the same type of tread that helps in snow also provides better hydroplaning resistance.

But getting back to the 2015 Genesis, does anyone know what exact tire each Trim level has? Hard to believe that someone would want a Summer Tire in Canada, even if they switched to Winter Tires in winter, since one never know when it will snow. It only snows a couple days per year where I live, but I don't want to end up in a ditch when that happens, and I may decide to take a trip a few hundred miles north were it snows more often. So I just don't see the need for a summer tire unless one is street racing a performance car, or unless one is willing to garage the car all winter and they have another vehicle to use.

Regarding premium vs regular gas, I believe that both 2015 Genesis engines are designed to use either regular or premium. The old wisdom about not using premium if the car is designed for regular is less applicable to today's modern computer controlled engines that can get extra HP and better fuel economy when using premium. Older engines were only designed to use (and were only capable of exploiting) a single octane (or fairly narrow octane range).

Old myths die hard.
 
Got to look at both the 3.8 and 5.0 at the Huffine Hyundai in Plano, TX today. (I didn't do any test drive though was offered). The dealership only has two choice of colors on four cars they have on the lot: Caspian Black (1) and Casablanca White (3).
Here are the likes:
Interiors: The seats, yes the seat is the some of the best seating I've ever sat in any car. The center console storage, it's huge. All the instruments are right one where they should be. Credit Hyundai engineers on their ergonomic innovation.
Exteriors: The car looks huge by comparison to 1st gen.
Front end: The front grill has the look of European style (Audi, mind you) and is very nice.
Contour lines around the body shape is stunning which makes the 1st gen looks old and dated. Rims looks sporty and luxurious (looks like only only one rim style is available for all trims?)
The rear end: it would look nicer with a wing badge, the integrated exhaust looks blend in with the bumper, the v8 does have different tips than the 3.8 but I like them both.
All exterior lights are an A+, elegant and look functional.
My bottom line: Hyundai seems to have the right weapon at this time to compete head on with the Germans and Japanese at mid price luxury line.
 
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