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Official Press Release: Hyundai Motor Launches New Global Luxury Brand, 'Genesis'

It's called offering options - many of us have no need for a car as big as the g90 (it's more than slightly larger, btw ) but might want some of the extra goodies too - I'm not sure why you seem to have a hard time understanding that?
I understand. I have had my own issues with the way the options are "packaged." It's been that way for every Japanese and (now) Korean car I have owned. But I have learned to live with it. If I don't like it, I shop for a different car.

As the Rolling Stones once said, "You can't always get what you want, but you can get what you need."
 
I'd expect a new nose and tail, along with a refreshed, upgraded interior. I'd bet we see the 3.3 turbo offered as well,.
I'm not sure what would constitute an upgrade to the interior. It's real nice right now. The controls are simple. One of the things I hated about the LS460 is their "upgraded" interior came larded up with a bunch of extra buttons and knobs. Totally ruined the elegance and simplicity.

Still sad they're going with a V6 turbo instead of a variable-displacement V8.
 
I'm not sure what would constitute an upgrade to the interior. It's real nice right now. The controls are simple. One of the things I hated about the LS460 is their "upgraded" interior came larded up with a bunch of extra buttons and knobs. Totally ruined the elegance and simplicity.

Still sad they're going with a V6 turbo instead of a variable-displacement V8.
From what I have heard they will offer a 3.8 V6, 3.3 V6 TT, or the 5.0 V8. Who says they are dropping the 5.0 V8 in the US for the G80 or G90?
 
Does the "human focus" included development of a competent service operation? My brand new Canadian 2015 Genesis suffered a massive electronic failure on October 21, 2015. It was taken to an authorized Hyundai dealer. After SEVEN STRAIGHT WEEKS in the shop, they have been unable to repair the vehicle. Only after 35 DAYS did I get an offer of a free loaner vehicle. I have received word that Hyundai now plans to ship my car back to Canada for further attempts at repair. The suggestion that, at this point, perhaps they should consider a replacement vehicle has fallen on deaf ears.

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- New 'Genesis' brand will compete with the world's leading luxury car brands
- Six-model line-up begins roll-out from December catering for 'new luxury' customers, delivering personalized and human-centered experiences
- Refined performance, athletic elegance in design and human-focused innovation will elevate the Genesis brand

November 4, 2015 - Hyundai Motor has announced an all-new global luxury brand – Genesis – that will deliver 'human-centered' luxury through a range of new models that feature the highest standards of performance, design and innovation.

Created for a new generation of discerning consumers, Genesis will be a stand-alone brand that operates alongside the company's popular Hyundai marque. Capitalizing on its success in the fast-growing global car market, Hyundai Motor will launch six new Genesis models by 2020 and will compete with the world's most renowned luxury car brands.

The Genesis brand seeks to create a new definition of luxury, one that will provide a new platform for future mobility centered on people. By anticipating human needs at every touch point, Genesis models will embody four key aspects: Human-focused innovation, refined and balanced performance, athletic elegance in design and hassle-free customer experience.

"We have created this new Genesis brand with a complete focus on our customers who want smart ownership experiences that save time and effort, with practical innovations that enhance satisfaction. The Genesis brand will fulfill these expectations, becoming a market leader through our human-centered brand strategy," said Euisun Chung, Hyundai Motor Company Vice Chairman.

Genesis models will boast outstanding driving dynamics and design, with innovations tailored to closely-meet the needs of customers. The new model line-up will distance itself from the traditional technological overload of brand-focused competitors, concentrating instead on a personalized, hassle-free customer experience. Continuing the customer-oriented approach that flows through every Genesis model, sales and service staff will provide rapid and attentive service to customer's requests.

To elevate and differentiate the Genesis brand from Hyundai, a distinct design identity, emblem, naming structure and customer service offering is being established.

Genesis models will be badged with a new wing-type emblem, redesigned from the version used on the current Genesis model to create an even more luxurious look. This emblem firmly cements the Genesis models as a collective family of luxury models under the Genesis nameplate.

The Genesis brand will also adopt a new alphanumeric naming structure. Future models will be named by combining the letter 'G' for Genesis with a number, 90, 80 or 70 etc., representing the segment.

Woong-Chul Yang, Head of Hyundai Motor R&D Center and Vice Chairman of Hyundai Motor said, "The Genesis models will provide technological innovation, excellent driving performance and luxury to customers. Every Genesis model will be created with the needs of our customers in mind, so the resulting car will perfectly meet their needs without any unnecessary burden or excess."

Fitted with the latest proactive safety technologies, intuitive convenience features and IT connectivity, Genesis models are engineered to provide excellent ride comfort while retaining confident sportiness.

To develop a distinctive and differentiated design for the new Genesis brand vehicles, Hyundai Motor has created a Prestige Design Division. From mid-2016 Luc Donckerwolke, who was previously responsible for the design of Audi, Bentley, Lamborghini, SEAT and Skoda models at the Volkswagen Group, will lead this new division alongside his role as Head of the Hyundai Motor Design Center. The work of the new Prestige Design Division will be overseen by Peter Schreyer, as part of his group-wide design responsibilities as President and Chief Design Officer (CDO) of Hyundai Motor Group.

Peter Schreyer commented, "In creating the design signature of Genesis brand cars, we set out to display confidence and originality, creating highly desirable products that present new charm through innovative styling and proportions."

The name 'Genesis', which also means new beginnings, hints at the new values and standards that the brand will bring to the global luxury car market. Initially on sale in the Korean, Chinese, North American and Middle Eastern luxury car markets, the Genesis brand will expand its reach to Europe and other parts of Asia as the model range grows to full strength.

Setting the brand's cars apart from competitors, innovation will begin with the consumer, with customer requirements directing development. This philosophy echoes the vision of Hyundai Motor to be a 'lifetime partner in automobiles and beyond', with the 'Modern Premium' brand direction of Hyundai reinterpreted for the new Genesis marque.

Since the launch of its first cars in 1967, Hyundai Motor has grown quickly to become one of the world's leading automakers. The strategic decision to create an all-new luxury car brand is recognition of the company's strengths and its global ambitions. By introducing new customers to Hyundai Motor and elevating its competitiveness, the new Genesis brand will enable more people to experience the premium value of Hyundai Motor.
 
Does the "human focus" included development of a competent service operation? My brand new Canadian 2015 Genesis suffered a massive electronic failure on October 21, 2015. It was taken to an authorized Hyundai dealer. After SEVEN STRAIGHT WEEKS in the shop, they have been unable to repair the vehicle. Only after 35 DAYS did I get an offer of a free loaner vehicle. I have received word that Hyundai now plans to ship my car back to Canada for further attempts at repair. The suggestion that, at this point, perhaps they should consider a replacement vehicle has fallen on deaf ears.
I am not sure where you purchased it, but in the US, almost every state has a lemon law that would probably force them to buy your car back or replace it, based on the number of days your car has been in the shop. The laws for each state are different, so Google it to find the exact laws in your state and what the procedure is to get the ball rolling. Don't expect Hyundai to help you with the lemon law process or to voluntarily comply with the provisions of the law.

If you purchased it in Canada (even if you now live in the US), you will have to find out if they have lemon laws in Canada. I would start with Google, or possibly contact a Canadian lawyer.
 
I'm not sure what would constitute an upgrade to the interior. It's real nice right now. The controls are simple. One of the things I hated about the LS460 is their "upgraded" interior came larded up with a bunch of extra buttons and knobs. Totally ruined the elegance and simplicity.

Still sad they're going with a V6 turbo instead of a variable-displacement V8.

Upgrades to materials - improved plastics, stitched leather dashboard cover, metal control switches, velour headliner, etc., - and a pano sunroof that doesn't rattle (or go back to "normal" sunroof). The G2 interior is very nice, but there is room to make it even better.
 
From what I have heard they will offer a 3.8 V6, 3.3 V6 TT, or the 5.0 V8. Who says they are dropping the 5.0 V8 in the US for the G80 or G90?
I could have sworn I had read on another thread here they were going with an all-V6 lineup for 2017 or '18. Where would you slot in the twin-turbo motor anyway? Split the current $5k and 100HP between the V6 and V8? Seems like a marginal gain for the development cost of that engine, makes more sense to replace the V8. As I said I prefer big-displacement naturally aspirated engines to tiny turbos and the current V8 is buttery-smooth.
 
I could have sworn I had read on another thread here they were going with an all-V6 lineup for 2017 or '18. Where would you slot in the twin-turbo motor anyway? Split the current $5k and 100HP between the V6 and V8? Seems like a marginal gain for the development cost of that engine, makes more sense to replace the V8. As I said I prefer big-displacement naturally aspirated engines to tiny turbos and the current V8 is buttery-smooth.
The 2017 EQ900 released in Korea (which will be the G90 in the USA as replacement for the Equus) has the three engine options I mentioned above, according to video reviews of an actual 2017 Korean EQ900 (link posted on this forum). I don't know which engines will be available in the USA for the 2017 G90.

Remember that Hyundai Motor America makes some of the decisions about which options to include and which engines to offer, in the US market. There have always been more engine options (and other features/options) on the Korean Genesis than on the USA Genesis.

Also, I would not believe everything I read in the press until it is officially announced by Hyundai Motor America and up on the USA website for the 2017 Genesis G80.
 
It seems the US market will get the G90 (EQ900) to replace the Equus. It has been reported to be only slightly larger than the current Equus and about the same size as a MB S Class. That is a huge sedan. Cant wait to see it. I also heard that the price will range from $60k to $100k. Not sure I can afford that top model and also if I'm gonna pay $100k it will probably be an MB S Class and not a Hyundai.
 
We will actually be getting the long wheelbase model - which is the same size as the 750Li and the A8L... TONS of room. Check out the legroom in this pic
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It seems the US market will get the G90 (EQ900) to replace the Equus. It has been reported to be only slightly larger than the current Equus and about the same size as a MB S Class. That is a huge sedan. Cant wait to see it. I also heard that the price will range from $60k to $100k. Not sure I can afford that top model and also if I'm gonna pay $100k it will probably be an MB S Class and not a Hyundai.

I'm sure that feature for feature the Genesis G90 will still be a huge discount over the S-Class. You could probably get a base S-Class and pay a little more than you would for a fully loaded G90. That is my guess...
 
You could probably get a base S-Class and pay a little more than you would for a fully loaded G90. That is my guess...

Considering what a non-AMG E400 that was well equipped costs north of 82,000 - I'd say you're right.

Just for giggles - Base price of the 4-matic S550 is 99,500. That is zero options and no accessories. After throwing the kitchen sink at it - 146,000. And that's not even going to the S600 yet.
 
That's nice for the legroom but the headroom seems to be lacking....
 
Considering what a non-AMG E400 that was well equipped costs north of 82,000 - I'd say you're right.

Just for giggles - Base price of the 4-matic S550 is 99,500. That is zero options and no accessories. After throwing the kitchen sink at it - 146,000. And that's not even going to the S600 yet.

It's a hell of a lot of car - but the pricing is just ridiculous. But some people are willing to pay for it...
 
It's a hell of a lot of car - but the pricing is just ridiculous. But some people are willing to pay for it...

Not me. I think most of Merc is overpriced and guady. But - As you know - I was looking at a slightly used 7 before choosing the G2. Still ver yhappy with that choice - and the G90 will most likely be my next ride, and I would almost choose one of those over a 7 series if money were not an issue.
 
Not me. I think most of Merc is overpriced and guady. But - As you know - I was looking at a slightly used 7 before choosing the G2. Still ver yhappy with that choice - and the G90 will most likely be my next ride, and I would almost choose one of those over a 7 series if money were not an issue.

If for nothing else but uniqueness alone - the G90 is going to be a highly wanted car. Like Lexus, I imagine the first generation or two of the G90 and G80 are going to be absolutely flawless...
 
I am not sure where you purchased it, but in the US, almost every state has a lemon law that would probably force them to buy your car back or replace it, based on the number of days your car has been in the shop. The laws for each state are different, so Google it to find the exact laws in your state and what the procedure is to get the ball rolling. Don't expect Hyundai to help you with the lemon law process or to voluntarily comply with the provisions of the law.

If you purchased it in Canada (even if you now live in the US), you will have to find out if they have lemon laws in Canada. I would start with Google, or possibly contact a Canadian lawyer.

Thanks for your comment. Unfortunately, it is a Canadian vehicle and there are no lemon laws in Canada. Today is the 2 MONTH anniversary of the car being under repair, and no finish is in sight.
 
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Despite no lemon laws - you always have legal recourse. Time to go find an attorney, I say.
 
I love my 14 r spec. We wanted to get an Equis for the wife. But after dealing with the service dept in DG Illinois she will not even look at it again. If Genesis stays in Hyundai dealership they will not get any better sales then what they currently have in the Chicagoland market. We're looking at other luxury brands due to service dept and personal how the car is treated and I am treated. Genesis should not allow a Hyundai dealer to open a Genesis dealership unless undergoing extensive training on how to treat a luxury owner. Not all H dealers are bad just have not found a good one in Illinois.
 
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