G70 US Availability?

[alabaaster]

Wanted to update y'all on my experience so far with Burns Genesis in NJ...they have been a complete pleasure to work with. They assigned a Genesis Advocate to me, and we are handling most of the paperwork via email. He answers my questions and keeps in contact. I think they are providing the level of service that Genesis touts and I hope that all Genesis branded dealerships will follow suit. They said that they had to take training from Genesis to provide the best customer service. I wish I was closer to NJ so that they could be my forever dealership. I would suggest to anyone on the East coast and not too far from NJ to give them a shot.

They also offer a 3 for One protection warranty which in my opinion is worth it. For 5 years (you can get it for fewer years) , it's $599 and covers tires and paint and windshield. I have attached the brochure. It's good nationwide. If you need a new tire, and say the other one is about worn, they will replace both of them.

I bought a tire warranty for my BMW and it cost 2k, and it had a cap out of 2k. So this to me is a great deal and it's something that only Burns does.

 

[steintm12]

I was going to say. I’ll never run an all season again in the winter. I’m not even looking at an AWD G70

RWD+winters and LSD = good balance haha.

Which suburb are you out of? I’m in Algonquin/Crystal Lake area.

Agreed. I think we're both interested in the same trim. 2.0T Sport 6MT. I hope they won't be too hard to find, may have to travel. You don't see many RWD manuals at dealers around here (I've previously searched for 3 series and ATS).

I'm nearby in Lake Zurich. Grew up in Algonquin.

 

[alabaaster]

What is bad about running all season tires in the winter? I was thinking of changing my summer tires to something else. Advice anyone?

 

[steintm12]

What is bad about running all season tires in the winter? I was thinking of changing my summer tires to something else. Advice anyone?

Summer tires are horrendous in snow, or even in just cold weather as the rubber compound becomes too hard/plastic. Here's a comparison test between all-season and winter tires in snow.
https://www.tirerack.com/tires/tests/testDisplay.jsp?ttid=103
AWD will help you accelerate, but won't help you stop. I'd take RWD with winter tires over AWD with all-season. Or better yet, AWD with winter tires.

 

[g60_corrado_91]

The heated wheel is nice, but climb a slippery snow covered hill and you'll like the AWD.

Having lived in Connecticut as a kid in the winter of 1995/1996, I totally agree with you there. I remember before my parents had a house in Southington, we rented somewhere where there was a huge hill. My dad couldn't get up the hill in his old Lincoln Continental Mark VII hahaha. That was a crazy winter. I remember just building snow forts and having no school for what seemed like weeks. It was a record breaking summer too with temperature highs.

Out by me in the Chicago suburbs, RWD+snow doesn't scare me. I managed just fine in my lowered GTI with winter tires. But mountains/hills or living in the boonies where they don't plow roads often? Different story.

 

[alabaaster]

Summer tires are horrendous in snow, or even in just cold weather as the rubber compound becomes too hard/plastic. Here's a comparison test between all-season and winter tires in snow.
https://www.tirerack.com/tires/tests/testDisplay.jsp?ttid=103
AWD will help you accelerate, but won't help you stop. I'd take RWD with winter tires over AWD with all-season. Or better yet, AWD with winter tires.

Thanks for that article. Very informative. I know my husband hates changing my tires. We had winter and summer for my BMW and it was a PITA to change them each winter. BUT, maybe it's worth it.

 

[g60_corrado_91]

Agreed. I think we're both interested in the same trim. 2.0T Sport 6MT. I hope they won't be too hard to find, may have to travel. You don't see many RWD manuals at dealers around here (I've previously searched for 3 series and ATS).

I'm nearby in Lake Zurich. Grew up in Algonquin.

Ha! Small world. I literally drive through Lake Zurich going to work (Vernon Hills). I'm in Lake in the Hills specifically. And yes, you're right, I want the 6MT Sport. I have to pay off my Mazda first and then save for a down payment, so I probably wouldn't be in the market until late 2019/early 2020. I have a feeling finding a RWD one will be hard. When you get yours, I'd love to check it out!

 

[Dpaulc]

Agreed. I think we're both interested in the same trim. 2.0T Sport 6MT. I hope they won't be too hard to find, may have to travel. You don't see many RWD manuals at dealers around here (I've previously searched for 3 series and ATS).

I'm nearby in Lake Zurich. Grew up in Algonquin.

I'm up in Grayslake area. I've contacted Bill over at Knauz Genesis of Lake Bluff. Who have you talked to at Rosen?

 

[g60_corrado_91]

What is bad about running all season tires in the winter? I was thinking of changing my summer tires to something else. Advice anyone?

All seasons use to be called "no seasons" because they were just average in everything they did. However, tire technology has improved massively even over the last 10 years. A really good all season like the Michelin Pilot Sport AS 3 is basically the same cost as the Pilot Super Sports/4S, but in theory, you don't have to change them in the winter.

I run General Altimax RT43's on my Mazda 3 over the crappy OEM low rolling resistance Bridgestones it came on and it is a night and day difference in dry handling as well as in the rain. They say these tires also do very well in the snow, but I run General Altimax Artic's for winter duty. They use to say that even the worst winter tire would do better than the best all season, but I don't think that's true anymore. But the best winter tire will outperform the best all season. If that wasn't the case, then Michelin wouldn't offer the Michelin X-Ice xi3. Those have been known to perform about the best minus perhaps the Nokian Hakkapeliitta R2's. But those are harder to get and much more expensive. In the end, it all depends on what your priority is, how much you drive, what your budget is.

People tend to forget about braking and turning which is where a really good A/S and/or winter tire come into play. Stopping 5 feet sooner could be the difference of a $500 deductible or not.

Check out TireRack. They have user reviews and have a rating system for wear, noise, snow and ice performance, dry performance, etc. You could call me a tire geek. It's the only part of the car that touches the ground, yet a lot of people will cheap out.

 

[Drezz]

Thanks for that article. Very informative. I know my husband hates changing my tires. We had winter and summer for my BMW and it was a PITA to change them each winter. BUT, maybe it's worth it.

It IS a pain, but if you want to really enjoy the performance of a performance vehicle, those summer tires make a big difference. If you care less about aggressively taking corners, then performance all-seasons might be fine for you.

Seems that most people in my area don't bother with snow tires, and Virginia is just out of the snow belt.

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[g60_corrado_91]

I'm up in Grayslake area. I've contacted Bill over at Knauz Genesis of Lake Bluff. Who have you talked to at Rosen?

Nice! I spoke with the Internet Manager, Jon Muehl. This was back in mid September and he told me that basically Korea did not do their homework when it came to sales in the US and dealerships. He was guessing that they'd see G70's in October/early November, which I'm guessing is pretty true given that NJ, Atlanta, and some others out east are getting them now.

 

[g60_corrado_91]

It IS a pain, but if you want to really enjoy the performance of a performance vehicle, those summer tires make a big difference. If you care less about aggressively taking corners, then performance all-seasons might be fine for you.

Seems that most people in my area don't bother with snow tires, and Virginia is just out of the snow belt.

IMO the US is not hard enough on regulating stuff like that. They say driving is a privilege. We'd have a helluva lot less accidents if everyone was on a good tire like what they require in Europe. Europe also charges a couple thousand just to get your drivers license. In IL, they don't even do state inspections like VA and NC require. I can't tell you how many cars I see with bald, dry rotted tires on or their bumper missing, headlights half gone, etc. Yet I'm the guy that'll be pulled over in my GTI because it's "too loud," has illegal tint, and no front plate. Stuff that literally has no impact on the well-being of others on the road. You could argue the tint with cop safe being except that IL allows limo tint on the rear windows. Who's to say there's not someone in the back seat that the cop can't see with a weapon? I just find it ironic that in NC, if you have bald tires, they won't allow you to get your tag, yet NC doesn't get too much snow except in the western part of the Great Smokey Mountains. Yet in IL where we do get snow in the central and northern parts, they don't look at ball joints, tie rod ends, tires, wheel bearings, etc. during renewals time. In a state that dumps salt, that's mind boggling.

/rant

 

[EdP]

Thanks for that article. Very informative. I know my husband hates changing my tires. We had winter and summer for my BMW and it was a PITA to change them each winter. BUT, maybe it's worth it.

On my last two cars I put Nokian WRG3 tires. They have a genuine snow rating but can also take the summer heat. There were designed for all of North America to be used all year round. They gave a good ride too.

 

[Drezz]

IMO the US is not hard enough on regulating stuff like that. They say driving is a privilege. We'd have a helluva lot less accidents if everyone was on a good tire like what they require in Europe. Europe also charges a couple thousand just to get your drivers license. In IL, they don't even do state inspections like VA and NC require. I can't tell you how many cars I see with bald, dry rotted tires on or their bumper missing, headlights half gone, etc. Yet I'm the guy that'll be pulled over in my GTI because it's "too loud," has illegal tint, and no front plate. Stuff that literally has no impact on the well-being of others on the road. You could argue the tint with cop safe being except that IL allows limo tint on the rear windows. Who's to say there's not someone in the back seat that the cop can't see with a weapon? I just find it ironic that in NC, if you have bald tires, they won't allow you to get your tag, yet NC doesn't get too much snow except in the western part of the Great Smokey Mountains. Yet in IL where we do get snow in the central and northern parts, they don't look at ball joints, tie rod ends, tires, wheel bearings, etc. during renewals time. In a state that dumps salt, that's mind boggling.

/rant

Side bar: I hear so many people say, "My car is bad in snow." Depending on the person, I may or may not try to explain how a large part of that might be due to iffy tires.

P.S. Though I didn't have the tint installed on my Volvo, I was bummed that change in NYS law meant it had to get stripped last year. :-(

 

[alabaaster]

It IS a pain, but if you want to really enjoy the performance of a performance vehicle, those summer tires make a big difference. If you care less about aggressively taking corners, then performance all-seasons might be fine for you.

Seems that most people in my area don't bother with snow tires, and Virginia is just out of the snow belt.

Good point, and I don't even drive my car if there is an inkling of snow in the forecast. I have a 4x4 for that. But normally I just stay home

 

[TurtleBoy]

The G80 sport is classified under the High Performance tier by most insurance companies..

I think you hit the nail on the head with this one. As a comparison I got them to quote for an Audi A6 since those are also on my list. I used a VIN for a 2018 A6 Prestige (2019s aren't out yet either) which is about $15k more than the G80 Sport. The increase in insurance cost was "only" $1,049 a year versus the $1,134 a year with the G80 Sport.

 

[alabaaster]

I think you hit the nail on the head with this one. As a comparison I got them to quote for an Audi A6 since those are also on my list. I used a VIN for a 2018 A6 Prestige (2019s aren't out yet either) which is about $15k more than the G80 Sport. The increase in insurance cost was "only" $1,049 a year versus the $1,134 a year with the G80 Sport.

wow! that is a lot!

 

[TurtleBoy]

wow! that is a lot!

I thought so too at first but then after thinking about it I guess it makes sense given I have a 10 yr old car now. Should really even be more of an increase but I haven't dropped comp and collision on it like I probably should have.

 

[EdP]

I thought so too at first but then after thinking about it I guess it makes sense given I have a 10 yr old car now. Should really even be more of an increase but I haven't dropped comp and collision on it like I probably should have.

I'd have agreed years ago. Minor bumps are big bucks these days so think about it before dropping. My car had that looked to me to be a $500 fix but was $5000. I was also able to get my car fixed immediately and not wait foe the other guy's insurance.

 

[TurtleBoy]

I'd have agreed years ago. Minor bumps are big bucks these days so think about it before dropping. My car had that looked to me to be a $500 fix but was $5000. I was also able to get my car fixed immediately and not wait foe the other guy's insurance.

Definitely things cost a lot but the general rule of thumb is if the Comp/Coll annual premium exceeds 10% of the cars value then drop it. Mine is not there yet but close and since it is only worth about 4k or so not really going to get it fixed anyway.