2015 Hyundai Genesis Sedan Spy Photos

[katman0]

That link does not go to what you may have intended.

You may have meant this link below where it says, "Next year Hyundai will offer a sport package with a more powerful engine, better suspension, bigger tires, stiffer body and a better seat".

http://www.autoweek.com/article/20131126/carreviews/131119876

Sorry about that. It must be my old age setting in. The link you posted was the one I was trying to post. Thanks. Jim

 

[dreamofgenesis]

http://www.autoguide.com/auto-news/...performance-focused-v8-awd-genesis-sedan.html

But Hyundai didn’t show all its cards in Motown this week. Spokesman Miles Johnson confirmed that the company is considering a performance-focued version of the Tau 5.0-liter V8 model that will use HTRAC all-wheel drive that would arrive after the cars shown in Detroit launch in the spring.

 

[tompass]

Thanks for sharing. From personal perspective, very encouraging for sure.

 

[drpearso]

That link does not go to what you may have intended.

You may have meant this link below where it says, "Next year Hyundai will offer a sport package with a more powerful engine, better suspension, bigger tires, stiffer body and a better seat".

http://www.autoweek.com/article/20131126/carreviews/131119876

ksoze - The article does say 'next year' they will have a sportier seat, etc etc. I wonder if the article is referring to the 2015 Genesis in the article, or to a totally different seat and car after the 2015 Genesis that was shown at the Jan preview??? Regards.

 

[ksoze]

Spokesman Miles Johnson confirmed that the company is considering a performance-focued version of the Tau 5.0-liter V8 model that will use HTRAC all-wheel drive that would arrive after the cars shown in Detroit launch in the spring. Hyundai’s top brass hasn’t given the green light for production yet, but Johnson said “we think there may be a market demand for such a model.”

"May" be a market for an AWD V8? How many MBA's did that take to figure out?

 

[ksoze]

ksoze - The article does say 'next year' they will have a sportier seat, etc etc. I wonder if the article is referring to the 2015 Genesis in the article, or to a totally different seat and car after the 2015 Genesis that was shown at the Jan preview??? Regards.

That statement is right in the middle of the discussion on the 2015 Genesis, so I would assume they meant next year, as in the calendar year 2015. All of this confusion seems to point out that some decisions still are fluid.

 

[dreamofgenesis]

That statement is right in the middle of the discussion on the 2015 Genesis, so I would assume they meant next year, as in the calendar year 2015. All of this confusion seems to point out that some decisions still are fluid.

You quoted from two places. This one is written last year though. I think words from Johnson today is more trustworthy. "...that would arrive after the cars shown in Detroit launch in the spring"

 

[drpearso]

You quoted from two places. This one is written last year though. I think words from Johnson today is more trustworthy. "...that would arrive after the cars shown in Detroit launch in the spring"

Dreamofgenesis - are you suggesting that the article by AutoWeek published 11/26/2013 was referring to the 2015 model Genesis shown at the Detroit as being the car that will have sportier seats and more powerful engine and bigger tires?

The 2015 Genesis from the show will have a sportier seat, more ridged body and will have bigger wheels and a higher compression stronger engine. Or does the 11/26/2013 AutoWeek article mean a different performance car will come out in 2015 AFTER the 2015 Genesis shown at the Detroit car show?

This is getting more confusing. Can you clarify this? Regards, Dan.

 

[drpearso]

Dreamofgenesis - are you suggesting that the article by AutoWeek published 11/26/2013 was referring to the 2015 model Genesis shown at the Detroit as being the car that will have sportier seats and more powerful engine and bigger tires?

The 2015 Genesis from the show will have a sportier seat, more ridged body and will have bigger wheels and a higher compression stronger engine. Or does the 11/26/2013 AutoWeek article mean a different performance car will come out in 2015 AFTER the 2015 Genesis shown at the Detroit car show?

This is getting more confusing. Can you clarify this? Regards, Dan.

Here is what I am trying to figure out regarding the seat in the newer 2015 Genesis, and why I want to know.

1. The 2015 Genesis from the Detroit car show is coming out with a redesigned seat with power side bolsters which is standard in the 5.0L model.

2. In the 11/26/2013 AutoWeek article the author is 'indicating' that there will be a different 'performance' 2015 Genesis coming out later that will have a 'sportier seat'.

3. Thus my question from the article or from any other information source is: Will Hyundai come out with a different sport seat that is 'sportier' than the new redesigned seat with power side bolsters that IS already coming out in the 2015 Genesis that was shown in the Detroit car show.

I am waiting for the redesigned seat with power side bolsters that WILL come standard in the 2015 V8 5.0L Genesis unveiled at the Detroit show. As per the AutoWeek article -- 'IF' there is going to be an even better sportier seat that will come out in a different 'performance model' after the 2015 5.0L unveiled at the Detroit show, I would want to wait and get the best sport seat that Hyundai has.

I just want to know if they are talking about a newer seat than the power side bolster seat that is coming out as standard equipment in the 2015 5.0L Genesis unveiled at the Detroit show, and the same seat that Bill actually sat in before Detroit show was open to the general public.

I do not want to wait for the April release of the new redesigned power bolster seat that is standard in the 5.0L Genesis, and then find out they will have a better and different seat that will come out later in 2015 in a 'performance' version of the 2015 Genesis.

I have a nice 2013 Genesis Rspec now that I cannot drive due to the seat and lacking telescoping wheel. The 2013 is just to uncomfortable for me due to a serious spinal disorder. Any help, clarification, etc regarding the seat situation would be very helpful for me so i can get in a car that I can drive. Regards, and thank you in advance. Dan

 

[dreamofgenesis]

Here is what I am trying to figure out regarding the seat in the newer 2015 Genesis, and why I want to know...I have a nice 2013 Genesis Rspec now that I cannot drive due to the seat and lacking telescoping wheel. The 2013 is just to uncomfortable for me due to a serious spinal disorder. Any help, clarification, etc regarding the seat situation would be very helpful for me so i can get in a car that I can drive. Regards, and thank you in advance. Dan

I'm just relying on the recent news more than the one from last year. Like most of guys here, I have no idea they'll gonna have some "sportier" seat in future "sportier" models. What I was trying to say is that they are considering 5.0 with H-TRAC model in us market and there'll be some announcement. This makes me wait.

I heard that seats of new genesis already quite improved from the current model. Do you have spondyloarthropathy or something? Hope that redesigned seat helps your back.

One of guy in Genesis Club posted that Hyundai plans to produce genesis cars for North America in February so that'll be delay for domestic production(Korean)(This sounds good for us). To make more cars hyundai motors currently are talking with unions.

So I guess we could see new genesis hopefully sometime in March.

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[italiabrain]

That makes perfectly good sense but I think present Hyundai owners are sufficiently impressed with quality of the product and would be willing to pay a few more bucks, perhaps approaching mid $50's MSRP, for an AWD V8 with all the goodies. Same car with upscale badge would be $15K-$20K more. Here is the Hyundai Canada release article:

http://www.hyundainews.ca/ProductArticle.aspx?cont_id=283

“We never expected to sell at Mercedes Benz or Lexus or BMW [price] levels. That was never the intention... If it was, absolutely [the Hyundai badge] would be limiting."
-- Zuchowski

I can't find the article, but I read that Hyundai had run the numbers and the extra cost of dealer infrastructure etc for a sub brand would have been a $7-8k markup per car.

That being said, I would not spend mid 50's on the 5.0 as described in their press release with the only change being AWD. Mid 50's for me would require introducing a new R-Spec with several unique trim modifications... wheels, lower fascia, model designation, mild HP bump, headlights, and probably launch control with an Audi-esque 200 limit to maintain warranty; not to mention adding back in the heated back seat and steering wheel that they stupidly seem to have taken off since the '14, and the around view monitor that's on the KDM and is quickly moving mainstream (especially on Nissan products).

 

[drpearso]

I'm just relying on the recent news more than the one from last year. Like most of guys here, I have no idea they'll gonna have some "sportier" seat in future "sportier" models. What I was trying to say is that they are considering 5.0 with H-TRAC model in us market and there'll be some announcement. This makes me wait.

I heard that seats of new genesis already quite improved from the current model. Do you have spondyloarthropathy or something? Hope that redesigned seat helps your back.

One of guy in Genesis Club posted that Hyundai plans to produce genesis cars for North America in February so that'll be delay for domestic production(Korean)(This sounds good for us). To make more cars hyundai motors currently are talking with unions.

So I guess we could see new genesis hopefully sometime in March.

dreamofgenesis - Hey, thank you very much for your reply. What you conveyed in your post makes all the sense in the world to me. I did not think they would be making a newer sportier seat than the new radically redesigned seat they have already made for the 2015 5.0L.

I also agree that they may/should come out with a performance model of the 2015 Genesis later on in production year. The 5.0L with new seat should be enough for me since I cannot keep waiting and not driving.

Aslo, thanks for the information regarding possible moving up production to Feb for US 2015 Genesis. That would be great. I think, but not sure, the K900 is coming out late Jan/Feb of this year, so maybe this might be another reason for Genesis production to get moving earlier to prevent folks from seeing the K900 and buying the K900 with its many changes including the seat. K900 is suppose to have the 5.0L in it, but not sure until it comes out.

Again, thank you for your very pragmatic response. Regards, Dan

 

[PMCErnie]

DRPearson, are you saying that you drove off the dealer's lot in a car that had a telescoping steering wheel that was too short for your comfort?

Also, why haven't you gotten a custom auto upholsterer to make you a better-fitting seat? Even a seat insert, held onto your seatback with rubber bands, should work wonders for you. This is what such businesses do. This shop is 5 minutes from my house. You must have a similar place available.

http://www.interiorguys.com/Pictures.html

 

[italiabrain]

DRPearson, are you saying that you drove off the dealer's lot in a car that had a telescoping steering wheel that was too short for your comfort?

Also, why haven't you gotten a custom auto upholsterer to make you a better-fitting seat? Even a seat insert, held onto your seatback with rubber bands, should work wonders for you. This is what such businesses do. This shop is 5 minutes from my house. You must have a similar place available.

http://www.interiorguys.com/Pictures.html

I obviously can't speak for him, but I can certainly imagine test driving a car and being totally fine with it, then taking it on the first multi-hour drive and wishing I could get a little closer to the wheel as time went on. Same for general support from the seat.

An insert in the seat wouldn't fix this problem for most people with back problems. From what he's said before it sounds like he's had an L-spine fusion. In that case the issue is having a permanent "military posture". Moving the seat up (or himself up in the seat with an insert) would get him close enough to the wheel, but then the pedals would be too close.

In order for someone to get comfortable for a long trip they need to balance wheel, seat, and pedals... that requires that two of those three have significant adjustment ranges. On the '13 Genesis the seat has a pretty good adjustment range (with poor to medium side support), and the wheel has a very short adjustment range that they locked out so they wouldn't have to warranty repairs.

 

[drpearso]

DRPearson, are you saying that you drove off the dealer's lot in a car that had a telescoping steering wheel that was too short for your comfort?

Also, why haven't you gotten a custom auto upholsterer to make you a better-fitting seat? Even a seat insert, held onto your seatback with rubber bands, should work wonders for you. This is what such businesses do. This shop is 5 minutes from my house. You must have a similar place available.

http://www.interiorguys.com/Pictures.html

PMCErnie - quick reply is that i have honestly looked into all of the alternatives that you have posted. I am just running on a short fuse due to spinal and CLL leash. This has seriously restricted my decision making abilities. Normally, i would have taken this bull by the horns and taken care of it one way or another. It's just not easy now to deal with decisions etc as it used to be a short time ago.

Everything you have posted, i agree with, and wish I could tackle, but I am floundering between just spend the cash money and get a new car, or deal with altering the 2013 Rspec I have. I am not doing a good job of dealing with the issue, but realistically, I do not get out a lot, so trying to weigh that into the equation. Again, i agree with you and 3 years ago, I would tell myself, get the darn deal done and move on.

I went the site you posted, and several others. As you posted, It would be easy to just get a shell built to fit over my Rspec seat that will allow me to get by until i get another car, or the 2015 Genesis. I did this exact thing when i had an old Mark VII which had articulated seats but was not good for my spine ---- I did trade in that nice Mark VII for the best car seat I have sat in, the 1993 SHO. I do not like FWD, etc, but the seat was the deal, period. I bought the last versions of the 1995 SHO's automatics, then found out the the Lincoln LS's with some minor alterations worked great for me. After 3 LS's, the last being the 2006 RWD 3.9L V8, I was out to find what would work for me.

I spent 6 months looking at the V8, RWD Genesis, then drove 5 of them, then made a decision to buy the car so I could arrange to have Chemo for the CLL I have. After 800 miles of driving in the 2013 Rspec, i realized it was not working --- great car, great quality, etc, but I screwed up. How did I not realize the telescoping did not work?????

Great question. I drove a number of 2013 3.8's and 5.0's, but when I decided to buy, I got the dealer to get me a 2013 new White Rspec from another dealer close by --- I should have done what i did with previous cars ... rent them and drive them for miles to determine if they work. The telescoping issue as folks have posted on line here was performed on the 2012-2013 via a TSB to restrict the range of the telescope wheel. I honestly do not know how i missed that, or if the models i drove did not have the software changed (in the 2012-2013 models) that restricted the telescoping range "significantly' ( as posted from folks on this forum).

I screwed up, period, but the 2013 Genesis, and 2012 Genesis was not designed to have a 1 inch telescoping wheel range .... the software change was performed to prevent warranty issues, period. I have sat in the Equus, and the Azera to see how the range is in those vehicles, and it is much much more than 1 inch as the 2013 Genesis. Again, i screwed up somehow, period.

Let me try to pull things together, and see where i go from here. My wife and I did rig up a device to have the upper part of the 'straight' seat back to bend forward, as it is in the 2015, and most other sports cars .... it was not pretty, but it helped some, but it did not allow me to get closer to the wheel as needed.

I honestly appreciate the help and information from you Ernie, and others on this board, but i am inch-worming along to try to get a resolution. I have never been this gun-shy regarding dealing with a car issue, but the over-all health issue has limited my judgement and process. Thank you for the site again ... will re-visit the site again, and again, i am sorry i have taken up so much time, space and words here. Regards, Dan.

PS - For what it is worth, i did contact the Hyundai Rep, and he is going to look into the software TSB that restricted the telescope issue. I do not expect much, but the Rep was a top notch pragmatic person when talking/conveying the issue to him. 'Why have a telescoping wheel to be only 1 inch' --- so will see where that goes, but bottom line is that i screwed up here somehow .... it's my problem and i am trying to resolve it. Regards, Dan.

 

[drpearso]

I obviously can't speak for him, but I can certainly imagine test driving a car and being totally fine with it, then taking it on the first multi-hour drive and wishing I could get a little closer to the wheel as time went on. Same for general support from the seat.

An insert in the seat wouldn't fix this problem for most people with back problems. From what he's said before it sounds like he's had an L-spine fusion. In that case the issue is having a permanent "military posture". Moving the seat up (or himself up in the seat with an insert) would get him close enough to the wheel, but then the pedals would be too close.

In order for someone to get comfortable for a long trip they need to balance wheel, seat, and pedals... that requires that two of those three have significant adjustment ranges. On the '13 Genesis the seat has a pretty good adjustment range (with poor to medium side support), and the wheel has a very short adjustment range that they locked out so they wouldn't have to warranty repairs.

Italia - I screwed this deal up, but your description of the situation is pretty much on the mark. For what it is worth, I have had 5 lumbar ("L") fusions ... all un-needed, and also a a failed left SI fusions performed my top notch spinal surgeons in Houston Texas in the 1980's. I do need to be in a neutral locked in position as you referred to. It is a mechanical problem, and i need neutal isolation while driving .... lateral side bolster support is part of that, and close to the wheel is the other part.

I used to take engines out of my ole college cars (VW's) and rebuild them myself all the way down to the crankshaft, thus i assumed the spine should/could be fixed due to mechanical issues (congenital deformities), just as a car. If the issues with the spine were addressed today, the mechanical issues would be taken care of, but that is water under the bridge. Thank you for your response. Regards, Dan.

 

[italiabrain]

http://www.carbuzz.com/news/2014/1/19/Hyundai-Planning-an-AWD-Performance-V8-Genesis-7718163/

 

[tompass]

Alrighty now!

 

[ksoze]

"No production green light has been given just yet, but it’s possible the car may have even more power than the 5.0-liter V8’s 420 hp. If the car does happen, we won’t see it until sometime after the regular V6 and V8 Genesis arrives in dealers this spring. "

Could stall some sales as many wait and see if the new model will get the green light. I would hate to buy in the spring to have a performance AWD model be announced later in the year. I hope they have some more firmness on their plans at launch - at least as far as this rumored model.

 

[tompass]

I for one will wait. Already instructed my dealer not to call me until the 5.0 AWD is available. I said in previous post that a release in fall would be logical but we shall see. Only downside about waiting is that trade in value of car decreases but so be it.