Aftermarket Subs in Genesis?

[Ron5.0]

Looks good and a nice little fit

 

[ShadowZ]

Thanks, they do not move at all and nothing to hold them in place. The box is perfectly sized and wedges in there snug.

 

[katman0]

you did a great job. how do they sound?

 

[ShadowZ]

The sound pretty good, they are loud when I want them to be. I am going to run a wave today and find out which freq. they have trouble with. I know it is a really low one, but that's because they are 10".

 

[Big_tugg]

The sound pretty good, they are loud when I want them to be. I am going to run a wave today and find out which freq. they have trouble with. I know it is a really low one, but that's because they are 10".

What are specs on your box, that's the look I wanted but I wanted 2x 10's

 

[ShadowZ]

34x12x12

 

[ShadowZ]

Just swapped out the 3 10" for 2 12" Alpine Type-R.

Now I know I need Dynamat!

 

[HbJatt13]

Just swapped out the 3 10" for 2 12" Alpine Type-R.

Now I know I need Dynamat!

How does it sound compared to the 10's?

Question- Can I take the signal from the stock subs and use that for the "high level inputs" for my amp? I read somewhere that I don't need a LOC for "high level inputs".

 

[Ron5.0]

Yes you need an LOC to tap into your cars factory amp.

 

[HbJatt13]

Yes you need an LOC to tap into your cars factory amp.

I thought I needed a LOC but I read somewhere that its much easier to tap the subwoofer outputs (that go to the sub) and plug those into the high level inputs of my amp.
Am I mistaken?
In case I do need the loc, do I tap the wires before the factory amp or after?
Thanks

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[Big_tugg]

Just swapped out the 3 10" for 2 12" Alpine Type-R.

Now I know I need Dynamat!

I have one 12" Apline Type-R in a ported box only pushing 450RMS. Could only imagine 2 at 1200RMS

 

[Ron5.0]

I thought I needed a LOC but I read somewhere that its much easier to tap the subwoofer outputs (that go to the sub) and plug those into the high level inputs of my amp.
Am I mistaken?
In case I do need the loc, do I tap the wires before the factory amp or after?
Thanks

First off, do you have a dis or touch screen radio?

I have the dis. I tap into the sub wires right from the amp output, I used an LOC with the fours wires of the output. Which I believe we're orange/yellow/white and black I think. They were easy to reach behind the passenger side panel in the trunk. I used the LOC connected to my amp like regular. And connected my 12 kicker. Sounds awesome enough for me.

 

[HbJatt13]

First off, do you have a dis or touch screen radio?

I have the dis. I tap into the sub wires right from the amp output, I used an LOC with the fours wires of the output. Which I believe we're orange/yellow/white and black I think. They were easy to reach behind the passenger side panel in the trunk. I used the LOC connected to my amp like regular. And connected my 12 kicker. Sounds awesome enough for me.

I have the touchscreen. And I have a LOC, I just need to be sure where to tap into for the signal. Thanks.

 

[ShadowZ]

How does it sound compared to the 10's?

Question- Can I take the signal from the stock subs and use that for the "high level inputs" for my amp? I read somewhere that I don't need a LOC for "high level inputs".

10's were good for SQ, but lacked heavily in the SP department, and I mean BAD! It was like I added 3 more stock subwoofers. Still nice, but not for a car built as tightly as the Genesis. The 3 10"s went into this girls Chevy Sonic hatch and they perform outrageously for her in that tin box.

The 12s are unreal. I do not use any bass boost and my gain is perfectly in tune. I do not need the other 800W RMS to get them to louder, I would be deaf if I did. If I have my EQ set to 0 and VOL at 18+, I will need to have my sunshade up or it will bounce several inches in the decklid.

I am certain I have the loudest Genesis in MN. My right ear feels like it has a cold because it is closest to the pass-thru.

First off, do you have a dis or touch screen radio?

I have the dis. I tap into the sub wires right from the amp output, I used an LOC with the fours wires of the output. Which I believe we're orange/yellow/white and black I think. They were easy to reach behind the passenger side panel in the trunk. I used the LOC connected to my amp like regular. And connected my 12 kicker. Sounds awesome enough for me.

I did the same, tapped into the output from my amp that runs to the subwoofer.

Wires: WL+ 12(yellow) WL- 25(black) WR+ 13(brown) WR- 26(white)

Some have run longer wires and tapped directly from the sub connections with splicers. (look a few pages back in this thread)

 

[HbJatt13]

10's were good for SQ, but lacked heavily in the SP department, and I mean BAD! It was like I added 3 more stock subwoofers. Still nice, but not for a car built as tightly as the Genesis. The 3 10"s went into this girls Chevy Sonic hatch and they perform outrageously for her in that tin box.

The 12s are unreal. I do not use any bass boost and my gain is perfectly in tune. I do not need the other 800W RMS to get them to louder, I would be deaf if I did. If I have my EQ set to 0 and VOL at 18+, I will need to have my sunshade up or it will bounce several inches in the decklid.

I am certain I have the loudest Genesis in MN. My right ear feels like it has a cold because it is closest to the pass-thru.



I did the same, tapped into the output from my amp that runs to the subwoofer.

Wires: WL+ 12(yellow) WL- 25(black) WR+ 13(brown) WR- 26(white)

Some have run longer wires and tapped directly from the sub connections with splicers. (look a few pages back in this thread)

Thanks shadow for the info. Appreciate it.

 

[Big_tugg]

10's were good for SQ, but lacked heavily in the SP department, and I mean BAD! It was like I added 3 more stock subwoofers. Still nice, but not for a car built as tightly as the Genesis. The 3 10"s went into this girls Chevy Sonic hatch and they perform outrageously for her in that tin box.

The 12s are unreal. I do not use any bass boost and my gain is perfectly in tune. I do not need the other 800W RMS to get them to louder, I would be deaf if I did. If I have my EQ set to 0 and VOL at 18+, I will need to have my sunshade up or it will bounce several inches in the decklid.

I am certain I have the loudest Genesis in MN. My right ear feels like it has a cold because it is closest to the pass-thru.



I did the same, tapped into the output from my amp that runs to the subwoofer.

Wires: WL+ 12(yellow) WL- 25(black) WR+ 13(brown) WR- 26(white)

Some have run longer wires and tapped directly from the sub connections with splicers. (look a few pages back in this thread)

It could be the type of 10's you had... I'm going x2 RE Audio SXX10D2 in ported box tune to 32 hz

 

[JBoogie]

Has anyone tested to see if removing the factory sub makes a difference in how the aftermarket sub sounds?

Im gonna be adding a sub soon and want to know if it makes a diff.

Thanks

 

[ShadowZ]

It could be the type of 10's you had... I'm going x2 RE Audio SXX10D2 in ported box tune to 32 hz

That may be so. With the amount of sound deadening in the Genesis and because of build quality 10s just wont do it if you want to really feel it, unless I went with x3 Image Dynamic IDQ-10 v4. I have used ID before and LOVED them. I wish I had gone with them if I had $1,500 (when all said and done) to drop on it.
I think in the end, since you are going after a strong 10, that you will be happier with 12s. Just saying

I have mine tuned at 34Hz using reinforced 1" MDF. Loud and deep.

Has anyone tested to see if removing the factory sub makes a difference in how the aftermarket sub sounds?

Im gonna be adding a sub soon and want to know if it makes a diff.

Thanks

I would imagine that removing the stock sub will give you the same/similar results as having the pass-thru open with a ported box. I have it open all the time, otherwise it provides quite a bit of sound deadening. I may remove my stock sub, but I still use it when the wifey is in the car.

I would also recommend what I did just a few days ago. I removed and disassembled the bluetooth speaker in the headliner. I installed a home made gasket (thin cut jar opener) on both sides of the speaker unit and reassembled. It was the only source of interior rattle and now that it is gone, its sounds 10x better.

Now if I could only get my rear bumper to stop shaking like a fat chick twerkin'...

 

[darthspader]

Do subs really make that big off a diffrence with the 17 speaker setup. I think it sounds perfect the way it is. If you sAy its way better then i may have to install.

 

[ShadowZ]

If you enjoy feeling your music, then yes.

I like having the extra bass, I like it at low volumes when it adds to the SQ and I like it just as much at high volumes when it slams. People on this forum, as well as others, will argue that adding any extra speakers or subs will detract from the SQ and "it won't sound like music was intended" Some is true some is not, its listener preference. If you like Chief Keef, Mike Will Made It tracks, or any other type of Hip Hop/Rap, and do not have the extra bass then you are missing a lot of the music. To put it simply, the frequencies found in that type of music will not likely be played correctly by any factory system. I'm not one to go out and get a couple 18" subs but 10s 12s and a 15 would be fine. Unless you really enjoy subtitled movies.

If your playlist mostly consists of talk radio, KC and the Sunshine Band and Norah Jones then it is probably pointless.