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Genesis G70 Reviews

Looks like no G70N in the works.

https://www.carscoops.com/2018/08/hyundai-n-boss-says-no-genesis-g70-n/

"That wasn’t the only idea he [Biermann] shot down as the engineer seemed to rule out a Genesis G70 N. The company looked into the possibility of developing the model before Genesis became a standalone brand, but it appears that is now out of the question. That’s unfortunate as it would be interesting to see Genesis tackle the BMW M3. "

Wouldn't have been given the N-moniker in the 1st place.

At this juncture, think Genesis is ruling out getting its own performance division; too early for that (need to establish itself, somewhat, first).

Down the road, likely will revisit, but if electrification has hit mainstream, there pretty much won't be a need for a separate performance division.

Case in point, if the Essentia concept goes to production as an EV halo, it's going to be blistering fast as is.
 
Another situation that bothered me about my Audi S3 is the complete random throttle lag.
Oh good it's not just me. It's quite unnerving when it happens.
 
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I think the only way it's going to be standardized is if you go and do it yourself with all of these different vehicles, and you're not likely to be able to do that. Everyone is entitled to their opinions, of course. I personally am convinced that there's something probably off with the C&D numbers and it seemed like they alluded to such.

^ my thought is the best way to gauge the G70 against its direct competition is for a multi-vehicle comparison test. C&D often does this, and i suspect they will once the '19 3-series is available. they then test the group of 4-5 vehicles on the same track, same day, and same public road circuits. whatever instrumentation or methods are used doesn't really matter since it is consistent between the vehicles and testing is under the same conditions. it really is the best way to get objectively comparable data to see where each vehicle ranks.

they also have subjective categories for style/design/etc where test data or specs do not tell the story.

my guess is we'll see C&D line up the G70 against the '19 3-series, C class, A4, Giulia - and maybe the ATS or Q50. typically they select previous high-ranked carry-over cars and then models which have seen a refresh or redesign or are new models altogether.
 
^ my thought is the best way to gauge the G70 against its direct competition is for a multi-vehicle comparison test. C&D often does this, and i suspect they will once the '19 3-series is available. they then test the group of 4-5 vehicles on the same track, same day, and same public road circuits. whatever instrumentation or methods are used doesn't really matter since it is consistent between the vehicles and testing is under the same conditions. it really is the best way to get objectively comparable data to see where each vehicle ranks.

they also have subjective categories for style/design/etc where test data or specs do not tell the story.

my guess is we'll see C&D line up the G70 against the '19 3-series, C class, A4, Giulia - and maybe the ATS or Q50. typically they select previous high-ranked carry-over cars and then models which have seen a refresh or redesign or are new models altogether.



I agree. These tests provide pretty unambiguous information about how different cars in the same sector compare to one another in various ways (e.g., performance, comfort, tech, etc.) I hope we start to see some of these fairly soon. Even better than written reviews would be accompanying videos.
 
As someone who has owned the car now for a couple of months, I no longer care about instrumented tests. I KNOW that my car is fast. I've dusted C43's, 340's, and S4's repeatedly. I've also beaten modified STi's, Evo's and Focus RS's. The torque surge from down low is insane on this car. I can also confidently say that it's faster than my old heavily modified and tuned Skyline GT-R. It puts down the power very effectively and takes off without the slightest hint of wheelspin. So for anyone freaking out that the car is 0.1s slower in an instrumented test, don't worry about it. On the street, this car will eat most other cars for breakfast.
Agreed! Just enjoy the car. I know this car will smoke most cars on the road but it's the ridiculous cornering of this car that really puts a big smile on my face.
 
My review after a 24-hour test drive. Please note I am not a pro driver nor a pro reviewer. Cars I have owned are M3, S4, M5, G37 Coupe, various others, etc.

I have already mentioned that I had an encounter with a new C43 AMG off a stop light and that I beat him out. Turned into a big fiasco. I also mentioned that I pulled over with the guy at a Home Depot afterwards and chit chatted. He tried...I tried...it was fair...I beat him. Throw magazines at me...I don't care...is what it is...I was there...you were not. I will also repeat that per manufacturer...the MB is 4.6 and the G70 is 4.5. Don't waste your time with trivial magazine clippings or quotes...b/c the G70 was a bogus test IMHO since it was using crap gas and and high heat, etc, etc.

Next...I used to own an E92 M3...dual-clutch. Rated at 4.4. The non-DC was rated at 4.7. My friend actually purchased the car from me. We met up...had multiple runs together in a few undisclosed areas in Burlington :) Neck and neck...every time. Again...spare me magazine details. He is a good driver...as am I. No stick shifting...so it is mash the pedal and go. Not rocket science.

With all that out of the way. This car is FAST. It is fast and it keeps being fast. I cannot even fathom it with a piggyback. But...this is not all about off the line speed.

This stuff is off the top of my head...my first impressions, etc. It has been several days now...so I might miss some stuff.

Pros...

- the exterior is stunning. No photos do it justice. Every crease...every line...walking around and inspecting the angles and curves. It is gorgeous man. I got nothing but looks...driving or sitting. Dropped my mom off so she could get some stuff...and I had 2 peeps literally tap on my glass and start talking with me. Loved it.
- the interior is stuffning. Ha. Seriously...so well crafted...everything is aligned. The stainless steel everywhere...the knobs...everything. Love the way the door handle is flat finish...then the surround is brushed...then the surround below that is brushed again. Someone said they screwed up or something...but it was intentional and a brilliant detail.
- the leather is of the best quality. Feels like a high end leather sofa. I kept touching it to remind myself how awesome it is. No other car I have sat in has had leather like this...S4/M3...not talking $100k+ cars here. Perhaps the same...who knows.
- comfort is fantastic...the front side of the cabin is just perfect. More on the back below. The center console has that slight angle to the driver...great feeling. Dials are simple, etc...all that has been reviewed. Screen is awesome. No glare...nice matte finish...very responsive, blah, blah.
- sound system rocks. I couldn't even get it to half volume...started to sound like a night club. Brilliant. I have a B&O system in my A4 now and it is just as good if not better.
- electronics...it has it all...holy crap. Played a bit with lane departure, etc...works...fun. All is easy to get to, etc, etc. One thing that was not mentioned is that it has a system that learns how you drive. If it starts to sense that lane departure is kicking in more...or other "odd" stuff is happening that is not normal to you...it assumes you are drunk or passing out...or both. LOL. So it brings up a coffee icon...essentially to tell you that you need a break, etc. BUT...it ALSO pumps oxygen into the cabin to help wake you up !!! C'mon now...who else does that?!?!?!
- trunk is good size. Smaller than my A4...but not by much. Golf clubs fit...4 carry-ons fit, blah, blah.
- if you walk up to the trunk with your key in your pocket, etc...and stand there for a few seconds...rear lights blip and then the trunk opens automatically. It assumes you are standing there and need trunk access. Very slick. No it doesn't close automatically with a button. Lift some weights...get back some of that muscle (if you ever had any) and just close it with one quick pull with your hand. Sheesh.
- love the alcantara head liner. I had that in my S4 (including the seats) so I am very used to it. Great thing is...cleans up great.
- it drives amazing...just like everyone else says. Love they way you can switch the drive modes, etc. I kept it in Sport the whole time essentially...other than to show my wife and my mom how it can ride more gentle :)
- wife loved it...mom loved it...daughter demands I buy it.
- feel free to ask me specific questions if I missed anything

Cons...

- back seats are comfy...leg room SUCKS. Did not think it would be this bad. I have one child that would ever sit behind the passenger...so not worried about it. But...I am 6'1" and with the driver seat where I like it...I could not get in the back. Literally...I could not get in. Once I wedged in...my legs were spread eagle. I can sit comfortably behind myself in my A4. I moved the driver seat up to where I was still comfortable...but not preferable...and I was able to get in. I was comfortable...but feet would not fit under the seat. Even barefoot. Yeah I could lift the driver seat, etc, etc. They really f'd up on the back seat room leg-wise. All they needed is 2-3 more inches somehow, etc.
- So used to the center console operation hub like in the BMW's and Audi's. Love being able to do stuff without looking. But I can get used to it since everything is so nicely laid out and the screen is nice and responsive.
- outside entry. Hate I have to touch the button to unlock. Should just touch the handle. Pressing to lock is ok.
- the darkened chrome is very slick looking. But...since the handles have that as well...they get fingerprints crazy fast. Annoying. But...looks good !!!
- dumb-ass music when the car shuts off, etc. What tard thought of that one?!?!?! Wish it could be silenced. My wife's comment..."now that is pretty gay". Nuff said.
- wish the headrests were adjustable other than up and down.
- wish there was some modern ambient LED lighting...anything...even a tiny bit. No biggie though.
- wish people would stop looking at me. Nah...just kidding...felt f'ing fantastic !!
- feel free to ask me specific questions if I missed anything

That's all for now. If I think of anything else I will simply reply to myself, etc.

Hope this was helpful for someone...anyone.

I will end with this. There is NOT ONE SINGLE car that can touch this thing for the price point. Nothing. It performs...feels like a million bucks...they killed it with this one.

I will 100% hold out for it. Unless...it goes really wrong and is released in 2019 or something. I simply cannot wait that long.

Cheers...B.


Great review, i feel exactly the same on every single comment you made which is why i bought it.

1 note... the hello and goodbye jingle that your wife thought was gay can be turned off, i keep it on and love it lol
 
Agreed! Just enjoy the car. I know this car will smoke most cars on the road but it's the ridiculous cornering of this car that really puts a big smile on my face.
I have lost the rear end a few times accelerating out of turns
 
Great review, i feel exactly the same on every single comment you made which is why i bought it.

1 note... the hello and goodbye jingle that your wife thought was gay can be turned off, i keep it on and love it lol

I appreciate the review, but saying something is “gay” as a bad thing is not OK, unless you mean happy. I also like the jingle.
 
I appreciate the review, but saying something is “gay” as a bad thing is not OK, unless you mean happy. I also like the jingle.


Okay. We need to stop this right here. This is a car forum to talk about cars, not about your own personal view on ethics. If you're offended by something on here then leave it - be an adult and move on. We don't need to talk about it; you can do that on your own time somewhere else, but not here.
 
Okay. We need to stop this right here. This is a car forum to talk about cars, not about your own personal view on ethics. If you're offended by something on here then leave it - be an adult and move on. We don't need to talk about it; you can do that on your own time somewhere else, but not here.

No, I don't think so. This is a public forum and it is not OK to use harmful language, even if it was unintentional. I didn't make a big deal out of it.

I thought the review was great, so it'd be easy to just change it slightly and move on? I too would like to focus on the cars, and I've posted lots of information and reviews on my G70.
 
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No, I don't think so. This is a public forum and it is not OK to use harmful language, even if it was unintentional. I didn't make a big deal out of it.

I thought the review was great, so it'd be easy to just change it slightly and move on? I too would like to focus on the cars, and I've posted lots of information and reviews on my G70.
Change my wording? Are you kidding me. Take your sensitive BS elsewhere. Grow a pair. Don’t want to get shunned again so I have to stop.
 
Change my wording? Are you kidding me. Take your sensitive BS elsewhere. Grow a pair. Don’t want to get shunned again so I have to stop.

It shocks me you were ever shunned given how lovely you are. Enjoy life, friend. :)
 
It shocks me you were ever shunned given how lovely you are. Enjoy life, friend. :)
I know right? And thank you...life is great. I’m very gay. I’d be a lot gayer if they finally released the damn G70!!
 
Can't Genesis see what they're doing to us? Lol they should just go ahead and release the car already!
 
Can't Genesis see what they're doing to us? Lol they should just go ahead and release the car already!
Hahahaha. I meant “happy” btw...in case that got lost in the nonsense :eek:
 
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