Oil Drain Location on 2015 Genesis

[Jackzilla]

Does anyone have any idea where the access to the engine oil drain is located on the 2015 Genesis?
The underside of the engine seems to be completely enclosed by a large aerodynamic shroud that doesn't seem to have any access panel for changing the oil. The drain on my 2012 Gensis was easily accessed through an opening in the engine shield covering the oil pan.
Another point of interest on the 2015 - the oil filter is in a new location and is apparently accessed from above, without need to drop the bottom shield. However, some sort of small container is needed to catch the oil when the filter housing if removed. Filter size also appears to be all new - smaller then previous model.

 

[Mark_888]

Does anyone have any idea where the access to the engine oil drain is located on the 2015 Genesis?
The underside of the engine seems to be completely enclosed by a large aerodynamic shroud that doesn't seem to have any access panel for changing the oil. The drain on my 2012 Gensis was easily accessed through an opening in the engine shield covering the oil pan.
Another point of interest on the 2015 - the oil filter is in a new location and is apparently accessed from above, without need to drop the bottom shield. However, some sort of small container is needed to catch the oil when the filter housing if removed. Filter size also appears to be all new - smaller then previous model.

That is interesting, because on the 2009-2011 V6, the oil filter was on top, in the middle of the engine bay near the firewall. Then it moved below for 2012+. It is possible that the new filter is just like the old one.

The Owner's Manual usually shows how to access the oil drain plug. It is probably behind the shroud that needs to be completely removed.

 

[NSXNEXT]

Yeah on the 5.0 you have to remove the front shroud under the engine to get to the oil filter. I believe there was a cutout for the drain plug but the shroud has to come down anyway to get to the filter.

 

[Mark_888]

The Owner's Manual usually shows how to access the oil drain plug. It is probably behind the shroud that needs to be completely removed.

I was wrong about that. Neither the 2009-2014, nor 2015 Owner's manual shows the oil drain plug on the bottom of the car.

A few interesting things about the 2015 3.8 V6 in addition to oil filter on top:

• Drain and fill capacity is 7.29 quarts, up from 5.5 quarts on 2009-2011 V6 (not sure about 2012-2014).
• Hyundai recommends 5w-30 on the 3.8 V6 for best fuel economy, or 10W-30 depending on ambient temps. No mention of 5W-20 for the V6.
• Hyundai recommends 5W-20 or 5W-30 on the 5.0 V8, but specifies 5W-20 for best fuel economy.

 

[Jackzilla]

Should have mentioned my car is a 3.8. Filter size is definitely smaller - compared a left-over oil filter from my 2012 and it clearly will not fit the 2015 filter housing, which is shorter (in height) than the housing on the 2012.
The problem, if the shroud under the engine has to come off, is the physical size. It is almost 3x the size of the shroud on the 2012 - a reak problem to take down with the car up on ramps.
And, yes I am aware that the oil capacity on the 3.8 has been increased to 7.29 quarts - probably for cooling because of the way the entire engine is shrouded.

 

[Mark_888]

Should have mentioned my car is a 3.8. Filter size is definitely smaller - compared a left-over oil filter from my 2012 and it clearly will not fit the 2015 filter housing, which is shorter (in height) than the housing on the 2012.
The problem, if the shroud under the engine has to come off, is the physical size. It is almost 3x the size of the shroud on the 2012 - a reak problem to take down with the car up on ramps.
And, yes I am aware that the oil capacity on the 3.8 has been increased to 7.29 quarts - probably for cooling because of the way the entire engine is shrouded.

On my 2009, I use a Fluid Evacuator powered by my small air compressor (not included with the extractor). The tube goes down the dipstick hole. I get more oil out that way compared to using drain plug, but I have to wiggle the tube around to make sure I am at the absolute bottom and get all of it out.
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However, no guarantee that it works with the new Genesis engine design. Most MB and BMW are designed to have oil extracted from the top and dealers get the oil out that way (but with a fancier and extractor does it quicker than mine).

 

[Ron5.0]

You definitely have to remove the bottom. About the oil filter it's different, but yes..
Idk why they didn't do a cut off part for the drain. Yes the piece is huge, covers engine and tranny if I remember clearly

 

[powerslide]

Confirmed Both under body panels need to come off on the 3.8L. You COULD try changing the filter from the top, but it is located just above the under body panel so it is MUCH easier to do from the bottom.


The oil filter is located on at the bottom, front of the engine block and is made of black plastic. You can replace the filter by only removing the front under body panel.


The drain plug (black plug at top of picture) is located well beyond the front under body panel which requires you remove the second one. Total of 15 hex bolts and close to another 15 plastic push fasteners between the two panels.


The under body panels were a PITA, but other than that it wasn't too bad. May need to look for bigger ramps as it gets pretty claustrophobic trying to get those back fasteners on the second panel.

 

[Mark_888]

Another point of interest on the 2015 - the oil filter is in a new location and is apparently accessed from above, without need to drop the bottom shield. However, some sort of small container is needed to catch the oil when the filter housing if removed. Filter size also appears to be all new - smaller then previous model.

Confirmed Both under body panels need to come off on the 3.8L. You COULD try changing the filter from the top, but it is located just above the under body panel so it is MUCH easier to do from the bottom.

OK, first I just want verify we are all talking about the 2015 V6, not the V8.

Second, what is story here? Is it reasonably possible to change the oil filter from the top? I would like to know because I should be able to remove the crankcase oil from the top with an oil extractor (attached to air compressor), so need to know if I could get to oil fitter from the top also. If I have to put the car up on stands and remove panels, I would have rethink the whole idea of changing the oil myself.

 

[ckon]

When I had our oil changed at the dealer a couple of weeks ago the service manager apologized for the time they took to do the deed. (I didn't think they took too long) He said it was the first one they'd done and they had to figure out how to do it.

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[powerslide]

OK, first I just want verify we are all talking about the 2015 V6, not the V8.

Second, what is story here? Is it reasonably possible to change the oil filter from the top? I would like to know because I should be able to remove the crankcase oil from the top with an oil extractor (attached to air compressor), so need to know if I could get to oil fitter from the top also. If I have to put the car up on stands and remove panels, I would have rethink the whole idea of changing the oil myself.

Yes, 2015 V6. It looks like you might be able to change the filter from the top but I didn't dare as any small spill would end up all over the under body panel. There is a TON of space between the front of the V6 and the radiator by modern car standards so there should be enough room to maneuver. Having a long arm would help though. When I was re-assembling the filter housing, I noticed a bump out on the lower lip that looks like it is there to provide a single dripping point. Now that I know what to expect, I'll see how "cleanly" I can remove the filter next time. If it's not to bad, I might be investing in one of those extractors.

 

[Mark_888]

Yes, 2015 V6. It looks like you might be able to change the filter from the top but I didn't dare as any small spill would end up all over the under body panel. There is a TON of space between the front of the V6 and the radiator by modern car standards so there should be enough room to maneuver. Having a long arm would help though. When I was re-assembling the filter housing, I noticed a bump out on the lower lip that looks like it is there to provide a single dripping point. Now that I know what to expect, I'll see how "cleanly" I can remove the filter next time. If it's not to bad, I might be investing in one of those extractors.

Maybe if the crankcase is drained first, and then put some absorbent paper type material under the filter so it would catch any remaining oil that dripped when the filter housing cap is removed. Worst case, would have to go to car wash and spray the wand on the under body panel (from the top) if any oil drips on it.

 

[Ernie3647]

OK, first I just want verify we are all talking about the 2015 V6, not the V8.

Second, what is story here? Is it reasonably possible to change the oil filter from the top? I would like to know because I should be able to remove the crankcase oil from the top with an oil extractor (attached to air compressor), so need to know if I could get to oil fitter from the top also. If I have to put the car up on stands and remove panels, I would have rethink the whole idea of changing the oil myself.

I would seriously consider the 2014 Equus, since the Genesis looks like Ford Fusion to me.

Are you considering buying a Ford Fusion anytime soon?

 

[Mark_888]

Are you considering buying a Ford Fusion anytime soon?

Actually, I am probably not considering anything until 2017 model year, since my current Genesis only has 48K miles on it. I am hoping for at least some styling changes for 2017 Genesis. As far as an Equus goes, I would probably not be looking at Genesis Ultimate.

 

[Jackzilla]

Powerslide:
Many thanks for the details and photos of what's necessary to access the oil drain and filter housing, to change the oil. Can't imagine why Hyundai would make such a routine procedure so difficult - more work for dealers I suppose. In any case I expect I will be cutting an access panel(s) in the under shield for future oil and filter changes.
I do believe the filter can be changed from above and have obtained a small plastic pan that can be placed under it to catch the oil when the cap is removed. If this is the case, can ONLY the rear half of the under panels be removed for access to the oil drain plug? Or, must the front half be removed first in order to remove the rear half?
Can you also confirm my impression that the panel material is quite thin and would be easy to cut for an access panel to the oil drain plug?

 

[powerslide]

Maybe if the crankcase is drained first, and then put some absorbent paper type material under the filter so it would catch any remaining oil that dripped when the filter housing cap is removed. Worst case, would have to go to car wash and spray the wand on the under body panel (from the top) if any oil drips on it.

I don't think you would need to drain the case first. I pulled the filter first and only a small amount of oil drained from the filter housing.

 

[powerslide]

Powerslide:
Many thanks for the details and photos of what's necessary to access the oil drain and filter housing, to change the oil. Can't imagine why Hyundai would make such a routine procedure so difficult - more work for dealers I suppose. In any case I expect I will be cutting an access panel(s) in the under shield for future oil and filter changes.
I do believe the filter can be changed from above and have obtained a small plastic pan that can be placed under it to catch the oil when the cap is removed. If this is the case, can ONLY the rear half of the under panels be removed for access to the oil drain plug? Or, must the front half be removed first in order to remove the rear half?
Can you also confirm my impression that the panel material is quite thin and would be easy to cut for an access panel to the oil drain plug?

I think you can remove just the second panel. The the rear screws of the front panel also secure the second panel so those would also have to be removed. It appears to be made of polypropylene about 1/8" thick.

 

[losboricua]

Should have mentioned my car is a 3.8. Filter size is definitely smaller - compared a left-over oil filter from my 2012 and it clearly will not fit the 2015 filter housing, which is shorter (in height) than the housing on the 2012.
The problem, if the shroud under the engine has to come off, is the physical size. It is almost 3x the size of the shroud on the 2012 - a reak problem to take down with the car up on ramps.
And, yes I am aware that the oil capacity on the 3.8 has been increased to 7.29 quarts - probably for cooling because of the way the entire engine is shrouded.

Do you know the part number for the filter? I need to do an oil change but not parts store nor RockAuto show a filter for the 2015 v6. I was going to buy the previous year filter since it basically the same engine but apparently they change the oil filter housing.
Thanks

 

[Mark_888]

Do you know the part number for the filter? I need to do an oil change but not parts store nor RockAuto show a filter for the 2015 v6. I was going to buy the previous year filter since it basically the same engine but apparently they change the oil filter housing.
Thanks

For a car like the Genesis, you really should go with the OEM filter. In the past, a lot of after-market filter retailers have not even had correct info on what filter is required.

 

[dderin]

The factory part number for the Hyundai Genesis 2015 3.6 oil cartridge is 26320 3CKB0. It is a cartridge filter and you need to replace the o-ring as well. Dan