Recall/Free Tire Replacement???

[Nikgen]

My bad, $800 in free tires or you can keep your high performance tires and car CPU stock. No one is twisting arms to "downgrade" your tires and CPU.

The premise of the replacement is to improve ride quality, whether you buy into that or not is up to you, you have a choice. What other car company says you can have free tires in the next three years?

I don't see anyone else offering that, ever. Maybe that late 90's Ford Explorer...

The point is that Hyundai made much fuss about the improvements to ride and handling with the Gen 2. They spent significant time and resources testing, tuning and ultimately outfitting it with specific Ultra Performance AS tires. Now, suddenly because of a "small number of complaints", they toss all of that out the window and throw on Grand Touring AS tires with a lower speed rating requiring them to reflash the ECU to limit top speed? Are they saying there was something wrong with the Hankooks or some of the Hankooks - or are they saying that all high performance AS tires have the "issue" and only touring tires will provide a satisfactory ride? My Hankooks are fine so I have no intent of changing...

 

[MagicRobert]

The point is that Hyundai made much fuss about the improvements to ride and handling with the Gen 2. They spent significant time and resources testing, tuning and ultimately outfitting it with specific Ultra Performance AS tires. Now, suddenly because of a "small number of complaints", they toss all of that out the window and throw on Grand Touring AS tires with a lower speed rating requiring them to reflash the ECU to limit top speed? Are they saying there was something wrong with the Hankooks or some of the Hankooks - or are they saying that all high performance AS tires have the "issue" and only touring tires will provide a satisfactory ride? My Hankooks are fine so I have no intent of changing...

They are saying that all Ultra Performance AS tires will cause your car to explode.

Sorry, but it's true.

Look at the Dungflops in The Kingdom of Saudi Arabia. Exploding Genesis's (Genesi?) everywhere.

And I was going to take my wife's Genesis to the track this weekend. Damn. I am so frustrated.

(Not picking on you; I just had to jump of the conspiracy theory train that has cropped up in this thread, and yours was the most recent post.)

A final note: this is what happens when you buy a car made in North Korea by slaves. (Before I get slammed on this last one, I actually heard that quote stated in all seriousness on a news feed.)

 

[Aquineas]

The point is that Hyundai made much fuss about the improvements to ride and handling with the Gen 2. They spent significant time and resources testing, tuning and ultimately outfitting it with specific Ultra Performance AS tires. Now, suddenly because of a "small number of complaints", they toss all of that out the window and throw on Grand Touring AS tires with a lower speed rating requiring them to reflash the ECU to limit top speed? Are they saying there was something wrong with the Hankooks or some of the Hankooks - or are they saying that all high performance AS tires have the "issue" and only touring tires will provide a satisfactory ride? My Hankooks are fine so I have no intent of changing...

Do you have statistics on how many people were unhappy with the tires? What about the KDM market?

 

[MagicRobert]

Do you have statistics on how many people were unhappy with the tires? What about the KDM market?

Aquineas, according to the Consumer Report article (which was the earliest news I can find), this problem was first noted in the KDM market. CR took credit for helping to force Hyundai to expand the program beyond the KDM market into the US and Canada markets.

I was not surprised that the V8 had flat-spotting. Those are some big tires to use nylon in. Nylon flat-spots. In the olden days before radials, I had the unfortunate privilege of having a set of nylon cord tires. You could chip a tooth in that car before the tires warmed up.

I have a V6 and even my wife noticed the flat-spotting. She is not a car enthusiast.

 

[Nikgen]

They are saying that all Ultra Performance AS tires will cause your car to explode.

Sorry, but it's true.

Look at the Dungflops in The Kingdom of Saudi Arabia. Exploding Genesis's (Genesi?) everywhere.

And I was going to take my wife's Genesis to the track this weekend. Damn. I am so frustrated.

(Not picking on you; I just had to jump of the conspiracy theory train that has cropped up in this thread, and yours was the most recent post.)

A final note: this is what happens when you buy a car made in North Korea by slaves. (Before I get slammed on this last one, I actually heard that quote stated in all seriousness on a news feed.)

Nice sarcasm, and i hope you feel better now that you got your quips out... but you didn't answer my questions. There is no conspiracy theory in anything I said - it was all fact.

If the issue is flatspotting, then why isn't Hyundai just saying that? Instead they say that "some people have noticed slight tire noise and vibration that can be amplified by road conditions"? So flatspotting can now be caused by road conditions? Really? And why the move to a grand touring tire? Could they not find a performance AS tire that didn't have the same "issue". I'd just like to see them tell us what the exact problem is, as other than minor flatspotting when it was very cold (that quickly worked itself out), the Hankooks have been great tires for me - quiet, great grip on dry and wet roads and good ride.

 

[Nikgen]

Do you have statistics on how many people were unhappy with the tires? What about the KDM market?

Umm... The "small number of customer comments" is a direct quote from Hyundai's letter.... BTW, I like how they are called "comments" and not what they really are: complaints!

 

[DRS]

Nikgen.... People on the plantation raise up and get after you... They do get creative on their parsing of words and attempts to make you or anyone else look moronic. Because they do not like the points being made about a real downgrade to the performance published with their "free" tire change. Some of the word twisting yappers could likely be the first ones three years from now as "experts" picking on cars that have had their CPU adjusted for lower performance. Offering from the sidelines opinions just the opposite of today. The facts cannot be argued. The lure of free tires for a stated performance downgrade of the rest of the car.

No one cares about speed ratings anymore? How about they create 85mph rated tires for free, and set the CPU to 85mph? No one should drive over 85 anyway, because I say so.. And how can anyone be bothered by reversing published performance specifications? Only conspiracy theorists would complain. Take away their plantations privileges.

I wonder if any of the word smithing attackers play golf (or any sport they are passionate about)? Maybe Calloway (or Ping, whoever) could change out the club head of their expensive "performance" clubs these lower rated tire lovers could never use to the clubs top potential. And say Calloway decides to "reduce" the performance capability (which these golfing hacks would never use) by changing out the head to make it "smoother"? Playing to the "masses" complaints. I wonder if these tire experts would complain about the reduction in their investment's performance? Especially agitated that Calloway has the same club head it could replace that has the same complaint solved, keeps the same performance level they will never attain, protects their investment, honors the specifications that were used by many to buy the clubs, but is a few pennies more. But hey, maybe we should tell them, it can always be reversed.

 

[Midwestuser1]

My question. Will they let you keep the old tires. I havent noticed anything but I wouldn't mind having an extra set of tires

My Service Manager is pretty cool and he told me that Hyundai states in the tire swap TSB that they must drill a hole is each of the 4 tires they remove and take pictures with the serial number of the tire. You will NOT be able to keep the old Hankooks

 

[ksoze]

My Service Manager is pretty cool and he told me that Hyundai states in the tire swap TSB that they must drill a hole is each of the 4 tires they remove and take pictures with the serial number of the tire. You will NOT be able to keep the old Hankooks

If as suggested by Hyundai, this "change" is due to a small minority not liking the noise, it is criminal ruining good tires. If they are defective, then say so. Otherwise what a waste of money and time.

 

[Aquineas]

Ignoring the intentionally inflammatory remarks from DRS (who gets a kick out of stirring the pot once in a while), I am one who had the update done, and I was torn on it before the update and even less sure about it afterwards. Now that I've driven the car a tankful with the new tires, I don't know that I would do it again if I were in the same position (and yes, I did feel the vibration problem with the new tires in the mornings, I'd say more so in early March before it finally warmed up in Houston- for one reason or another we had a cold, wet, crappy winter).

In any case if you're in the Houston area and contemplating this change and want to check out the new tires, maybe a few Houston area Genesis owners could meet at the Woodlands or something one day next week and you can feel the difference for yourself before deciding.

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[ksoze]

Now that I've driven the car a tankful with the new tires, I don't know that I would do it again if I were in the same position (and yes, I did feel the vibration problem with the new tires in the mornings, I'd say more so in early March before it finally warmed up in Houston- for one reason or another we had a cold, wet, crappy winter).

Thanks Aquineas, can you elaborate on your initial impressions.

Clearly, it is a less performance oriented tire, geared more to abating noise and increasing comfort than its predecessor. A tire with padding stuck inside says something. How that helps or hinders a car already saddled with weight makes me wonder if all that Lotus tuning and focus on increasing the cars sharpness has been pushed aside over a desire to be a Lincoln Town car replacement.

 

[reddogva99]

My Service Manager is pretty cool and he told me that Hyundai states in the tire swap TSB that they must drill a hole is each of the 4 tires they remove and take pictures with the serial number of the tire. You will NOT be able to keep the old Hankooks

That is insane!!! Why ruin the tires? I haven't had any issues. I might keep the hanooks for a couple years and then swap out the tires with more ware on them. I'm probably averaging about 9k a year on the car so i'll have like 27k on the hanooks and swap them. I wonder if the hanooks were contributing to the annoying roof rattle during the colder months.

 

[Aquineas]

Thanks Aquineas, can you elaborate on your initial impressions.

Clearly, it is a less performance oriented tire, geared more to abating noise and increasing comfort than its predecessor. A tire with padding stuck inside says something. How that helps or hinders a car already saddled with weight makes me wonder if all that Lotus tuning and focus on increasing the cars sharpness has been pushed aside over a desire to be a Lincoln Town car replacement.

In short, the new tires are a little bit quieter and feel a little bit spongier than the Hankooks. I haven't tried them yet in the rain, so we'll see how they handle in the wet. I agree with you that the new tire seems more tuned for comfort.

 

[MagicRobert]

Aquineas, thanks for being a voice of reason and for maintaining you equanimity.

This thread needs more of that.

And keep us posted on how the new tires handle the rain; it looks like you will be able to do that soon and often if the weather forecast does not change.

 

[DFWGenny]

I wonder if C/D is going to derate the V6 to 130 MPH because Hyundai is shaving cost on the tire? It seems short sighted when they brag on Lotus consulting on the Genesis.

 

[markpoisson]

I am set to get mine installed next Wed (5/13). I am already @ 31K miles so I am happy about the free set of new tires. Not overly keen on the less sporty nature of the tire nor in the reduction in top speed but we will see.

I will tell you that shy of the flat spotting, the Hankooks were pretty good, especially in rain AND snow. I am wondering how the new tires will do.

 

[greekgeek]

I am set to get mine installed next Wed (5/13). I am already @ 31K miles so I am happy about the free set of new tires. Not overly keen on the less sporty nature of the tire nor in the reduction in top speed but we will see.

I will tell you that shy of the flat spotting, the Hankooks were pretty good, especially in rain AND snow. I am wondering how the new tires will do.

Sry brah but those tires are not free, many here will tell you the same amirite? Hopefully you won't get stopped for a felony on your way off the lot! 🚓😆

 

[kn5owa]

My Service Manager is pretty cool and he told me that Hyundai states in the tire swap TSB that they must drill a hole is each of the 4 tires they remove and take pictures with the serial number of the tire. You will NOT be able to keep the old Hankooks

Assuming that this is not a late April fool's joke - it confirms everything I have said to the effect that the tire swapout was a lawyer driven scheme.

Lawsuits involving alleged tire failure are costing the "deep pockets" companies millions of dollars and are not well publicized because of gag orders.

Clearly, they want those old tires trashed.

My new Conti's work fine - better ride on the crappy roads in N. VA.

 

[Midwestuser1]

Assuming that this is not a late April fool's joke - it confirms everything I have said to the effect that the tire swapout was a lawyer driven scheme.

Lawsuits involving alleged tire failure are costing the "deep pockets" companies millions of dollars and are not well publicized because of gag orders.

Clearly, they want those old tires trashed.

My new Conti's work fine - better ride on the crappy roads in N. VA.

No April fools joke. The reason to destory the original tires might have more than one rational behind it.

 

[markpoisson]

Sry brah but those tires are not free, many here will tell you the same amirite? Hopefully you won't get stopped for a felony on your way off the lot! 🚓😆

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