Recall/Free Tire Replacement???

[kn5owa]

OK. Getting back to the original subject about the tire recall. Ive been riding on these new ContiPRO TX...... tires for about a week and I must say they seem to fit the vehicle pretty good. They look good. they sound better than they did the first day. Checked all the PSI and it seems a bit low around 31 cold, but heat up to about 35-36 psi. All in all seems to be a good transaction. Thanks Hyundai. [/QUOTE


The recommended inflation pressures for the 2015 Genesis V8 are 33 lbs front and 35 lbs rear, unless you have a preference otherwise.

The chart on page 8-4 in the manual is next to useless.

Always check the door jamb for car specific data.

 

[magicsquid]

Has anyone confirmed that the dealer updates the door jam after they put the new tires on? Specifically interested in the Michelin's.

 

[DRS]

Not to be argumentative but your tire pressure gauge must be broken.

What are the effects of temperature change on my nitrogen filled tires?

The pressure in nitrogen filled tires will change when the temperature changes, just as it does with air filled tires, because nitrogen and oxygen respond to changes in ambient temperature in a similar manner. For example, when your vehicle is parked it will lose a similar amount of pressure for every 10 degree change in temperature, whether the tires are filled with nitrogen or air.

The calculations for this change are based on the Ideal Gas Law. A good rule of thumb is this: For every 10 F degree change in temperature, the pressure will change by 1.9%. If a tire is filled to 32 psi at a temperature of 75 F degrees and the temperature drops 10 degrees, the tire pressure will drop to 31.4 psi; a difference of .6 psi. If a 100 psi tire is filled at 75 F degrees and the temperature drops 10 degrees, the tire pressure will drop to 98.1 psi; a difference of .9 psi.

These fluctuations will occur as the temperature rises and falls no matter what the inflation gas. Fortunately, tire manufacturers are well aware of these conditions and design their tires and recommend their cold inflation pressure accordingly.

I understand the theory and math of all this. Again, I used to get a small chuckle when hearing the nitro fans. All I can tell you is what is experienced. Puzzles me.
I have been taking pretty good measurements with the tire pressure reporting system on the 2015. Especially when traveling at steady state (different steady speed trips). I am logging the different ambient temps, speed, loads and sun position. Noting cold pressure, and then operation temp. Assuming the electronic readers are accurate, should eventually have some good data over time. It is interesting findings to date. I began to take tire temps with the thermal gauge. I have one I use from pulling horses with the King Ranch F350. Have confirmed couple things. I noticed on the Genny same thing as on the trailer and truck. The "sun side" of the car, the tire temps and pressure will heat up higher. Compared to whatever the "dark side" is. Especially when going north/south mid morning. Sun will heat up the tire by up to 45 degrees (so far) more than the other side. Which seems to account for the one side of the car showing slightly higher pressure. Anyway, other guys swear by using nitro in their horse trailers and pick ups.. I have not spent the time and money to do it, yet. Based on the results on the Vic we had the free nitro put in, thinking of changing to nitro as tires are changed out. When the new tires go on (thank you Hyundai), will try to get nitro and compare what the logs say.. If results are better, and static pressure loss over time is less, enough evidence to flip the rest of the vehicles to nitro. Until then, I was just noting experience in one car as part of a comment someone said.. Not trying to get into raging flame wars on this.

 

[DRS]

OK. Getting back to the original subject about the tire recall. Ive been riding on these new ContiPRO TX...... tires for about a week and I must say they seem to fit the vehicle pretty good. They look good. they sound better than they did the first day. Checked all the PSI and it seems a bit low around 31 cold, but heat up to about 35-36 psi. All in all seems to be a good transaction. Thanks Hyundai.

Thank you for the report.. Did you get a chance to see what the foam looks like inside the tire (supposed to make it more quiet)?

 

[kn5owa]

I understand the theory and math of all this. Again, I used to get a small chuckle when hearing the nitro fans.

Good point - I knew somebody who thought nitrogen was flammable.

He didn't know that it's used to put out fires. And, a few of us still breathe it.
(a little off topic)

 

[DRS]

Good point - I knew somebody who thought nitrogen was flammable.

He didn't know that it's used to put out fires. And, a few of us still breathe it.
(a little off topic)

Get that.

 

[C-130Geek]

I understand the theory and math of all this. Again, I used to get a small chuckle when hearing the nitro fans. All I can tell you is what is experienced. Puzzles me.
I have been taking pretty good measurements with the tire pressure reporting system on the 2015. Especially when traveling at steady state (different steady speed trips). I am logging the different ambient temps, speed, loads and sun position. Noting cold pressure, and then operation temp. Assuming the electronic readers are accurate, should eventually have some good data over time. It is interesting findings to date. I began to take tire temps with the thermal gauge. I have one I use from pulling horses with the King Ranch F350. Have confirmed couple things. I noticed on the Genny same thing as on the trailer and truck. The "sun side" of the car, the tire temps and pressure will heat up higher. Compared to whatever the "dark side" is. Especially when going north/south mid morning. Sun will heat up the tire by up to 45 degrees (so far) more than the other side. Which seems to account for the one side of the car showing slightly higher pressure. Anyway, other guys swear by using nitro in their horse trailers and pick ups.. I have not spent the time and money to do it, yet. Based on the results on the Vic we had the free nitro put in, thinking of changing to nitro as tires are changed out. When the new tires go on (thank you Hyundai), will try to get nitro and compare what the logs say.. If results are better, and static pressure loss over time is less, enough evidence to flip the rest of the vehicles to nitro. Until then, I was just noting experience in one car as part of a comment someone said.. Not trying to get into raging flame wars on this.

Just curious, with all other parameters being equal, did surface type (concrete vs blacktop) make a difference?

 

[DRS]

Just curious, with all other parameters being equal, did surface type (concrete vs blacktop) make a difference?

Wish I could tell you.. Around here, changes from asphalt to concrete and back all the time.

 

[NJGenesis22]

I had my Hankook tires replaced by the dealer about a 1000 miles ago with the Michelin Primacy MXM4 tires.

I have been experiencing an intermittent vibration since day one. I thought these new tires were going to be the magic pill, unfortunately, my issues with vibration continue.

I'm having the EXACT same experience as fbfatboy. For me, this has completely ruined the experience of what I had hoped was a fantastic automobile.

I cant put my finger on this, some days are better than others. Its definitely intermittent, and I cant isolate what the cause is. Road surface, drive train, suspension. I'm traveling on the same road surface, shifting into neutral while driving, in an attempt to isolate the problem. I'm starting to doubt the tires are the cause.

I'm going to a independent tire shop on Friday and have them check the alignment and recheck the balance of the tires.

I have having a very similar issue as Soffmore. I changed to the mxm4s a few weeks ago and they definitely vibrate more than the Hankooks. It's a very fine vibration, and don't feel it all the time, but it's there (and there was none with the Hankooks). Sort of regretting the decision to change

 

[DRS]

I have having a very similar issue as Soffmore. I changed to the mxm4s a few weeks ago and they definitely vibrate more than the Hankooks. It's a very fine vibration, and don't feel it all the time, but it's there (and there was none with the Hankooks). Sort of regretting the decision to change

One quick suggestion... When I first was digging with my trusted tire and allignment folks my 2015 issues (before the flat spot correction came out), the Hankooks were ok as far as a natural balance (when not flat spotted after sitting still). However, disturbing issues were found on the wheels. Especially the rear wheels. They had to go through all kinds of gyrations to get a true Road Force balance.. When I will get the new tires, I will ask for two replacement wheels. They are NOT bent.. Some weird and unseen out of balance issue.. For now, thanks to their hard work, all but one wheel are inside the Road Force Certification window.

Point is..... Check the wheels..... Check with certified Road Force engineer, with a recently calibrated machine. May not be the tires if Hyundai wheel maker has some casting problems (I do not think they are forged wheels like the 20"s on the F350 King Ranch). Factory balance may not have shown issues, that now shows up from a retail balance machine not knowing how to handle this.

Or, Continental has some moisture issues inside the foam used to ad sound suppression inside the tire. Or some other systemic out of balance issue related to the foam sound insulation.

Hope this helps. This process is good in any case.. Do it right, and the tires will, be balance liked you have never seen.

Also, I have found over the years that low profile tires, will need to be in a ultra fine setting for any regular balance machine. If the dealer did not set this, could be off as much as .5-.75oz.. .10oz off has been felt by me in certain situations.. If they balanced to .25oz and above as the allowance for showing balanced tires, you will feel that.

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[Alwaysforward]

Could it be Hyundai figured it was cheaper to replace the tires than the wheels

 

[DRS]

Could it be Hyundai figured it was cheaper to replace the tires than the wheels

Yep... As good a guess as anything, assuming there is a wheel problem. ��

 

[NJGenesis22]

One quick suggestion... When I first was digging with my trusted tire and allignment folks my 2015 issues (before the flat spot correction came out), the Hankooks were ok as far as a natural balance (when not flat spotted after sitting still). However, disturbing issues were found on the wheels. Especially the rear wheels. They had to go through all kinds of gyrations to get a true Road Force balance.. When I will get the new tires, I will ask for two replacement wheels. They are NOT bent.. Some weird and unseen out of balance issue.. For now, thanks to their hard work, all but one wheel are inside the Road Force Certification window.

Point is..... Check the wheels..... Check with certified Road Force engineer, with a recently calibrated machine. May not be the tires if Hyundai wheel maker has some casting problems (I do not think they are forged wheels like the 20"s on the F350 King Ranch). Factory balance may not have shown issues, that now shows up from a retail balance machine not knowing how to handle this.

Or, Continental has some moisture issues inside the foam used to ad sound suppression inside the tire. Or some other systemic out of balance issue related to the foam sound insulation.

Hope this helps. This process is good in any case.. Do it right, and the tires will, be balance liked you have never seen.

Also, I have found over the years that low profile tires, will need to be in a ultra fine setting for any regular balance machine. If the dealer did not set this, could be off as much as .5-.75oz.. .10oz off has been felt by me in certain situations.. If they balanced to .25oz and above as the allowance for showing balanced tires, you will feel that.

Thank you for the tip DRS - I will bring this up at the dealer when I go back in. This is my second time going for a re-balance, so it could very well be what you said. I will let you know, hopefully it works out.

 

[rjsilvers]

Made this account just for this topic... I have a 2015 Genesis 3.8 and was contacted about the tire recall. I was not told it was optional, but that when my car went in for an oil change they would perform the recall. I said that was fine.

Waco Hyundai replaced the tires and the first time I get on the freeway, I am going out of town for a business trip, bringing my family, and the car starts shaking like crazy. I immediately call Blue Link and they say that Patterson Hyundai in Wichita Falls (my destination 3.5 hours away) will fix it tomorrow. So I continue my trip as slowly as I can and make it there safely

Today, I take it to the dealer and they say they will NOT fix it because its related to the recall and it has to be escalated to the national level and will take a minimum of 3-5 business days. I go back home on Sunday, so I literally am going to be driving this violently shaking car another 3-4 hours back home to wait to hear from someone.

I was on the phone with Genesis for hours trying to get them to fix my car. I talked to Curtis (the floor lead for the Genesis team) twice and I asked him "You're telling me I can't drive my car for 3-5 days?" "Yes." "Give me a rental car then while this is figured out." "We don't cover rental cars."

I am mainly posting this just to rant, but also to warn others that if there is a problem with this "elective" recall, they are NOT going to fix it in a timely manner. You may be without use of your car for days while they get their act together. I wish I never went in for an oil change. I wish I never traded in my Mercedes for this car, actually.

 

[ckon]

Made this account just for this topic... I have a 2015 Genesis 3.8 and was contacted about the tire recall. I was not told it was optional, but that when my car went in for an oil change they would perform the recall. I said that was fine.

Waco Hyundai replaced the tires and the first time I get on the freeway, I am going out of town for a business trip, bringing my family, and the car starts shaking like crazy. I immediately call Blue Link and they say that Patterson Hyundai in Wichita Falls (my destination 3.5 hours away) will fix it tomorrow. So I continue my trip as slowly as I can and make it there safely

Today, I take it to the dealer and they say they will NOT fix it because its related to the recall and it has to be escalated to the national level and will take a minimum of 3-5 business days. I go back home on Sunday, so I literally am going to be driving this violently shaking car another 3-4 hours back home to wait to hear from someone.

I was on the phone with Genesis for hours trying to get them to fix my car. I talked to Curtis (the floor lead for the Genesis team) twice and I asked him "You're telling me I can't drive my car for 3-5 days?" "Yes." "Give me a rental car then while this is figured out." "We don't cover rental cars."

I am mainly posting this just to rant, but also to warn others that if there is a problem with this "elective" recall, they are NOT going to fix it in a timely manner. You may be without use of your car for days while they get their act together. I wish I never went in for an oil change. I wish I never traded in my Mercedes for this car, actually.

Is your car AWD? My car has been at the dealer for over three weeks for a similar problem although the vibration does eventually go away. Yours may just be a balance issue.

 

[rjsilvers]

Is your car AWD? My car has been at the dealer for over three weeks for a similar problem although the vibration does eventually go away. Yours may just be a balance issue.

I took it into Patterson Hyundai again after they said they would look at it.


..........It turned out to be a balancing issue. These are the "extra" weights they removed from my front wheels. They said they had never seen anything like this before and gave me the weight to take back to the other dealer and tell them how stupid they are.

 

[dareckibmw]

My God! .......

 

[RN2X]

Gosh

 

[RN2X]

I took my car in for the initial oil change this morning. I had two recall orders pending. One for the tires and the other for the cowl replacement. I told them that I did not want the hancooks changed yet and they told me that was fine.

 

[TroyK]

although the vibration does eventually go away.

that would almost have to be a tire or balance issue would it not? i mean a wheel can't fix itself. and a drive line vibration probably wouldn't just disappear.