Rigid Collars installation

[amartz]

I might have seen you the other day at that intersection. I was sitting a couple back and saw a black Genesis heading up Sandy Ridge. Next time I'll expect you to let me out!

I'll try to remember. Although with my luck the 7 guys behind you will try to follow you out!

I remembered one other place I noticed a definite difference with the collars. If you are familiar with North Bunker Hill road, between County Line and Colfax, where Beeson splits off, there's a dip on Beeson down into a valley, and a sharp curve across a older bridge in the middle of the curve at the bottom of the valley. Especially heading south towards Colfax, at a rapid clip, of course! Before the collars, as your crossed the bridge rounding the curve, the Genesis would tend to want to walk halfway over into the oncoming lane, not being the smoothest curve in the world. After the collars, it stayed much more planted in the lane it was supposed to stay in, without having to correct it back into the proper lane as much. And at probably a higher speed, to boot.

 

[R-Spectable]

I live in Davie County and usually take 311 to 40 South through Winston. There's a couple of curves that I take where I get that "walking" feeling especially that curve on 311 that takes you onto 40. That will be the sucker that I'll be paying attention to after the install.

 

[amartz]

I live in Davie County and usually take 311 to 40 South through Winston. There's a couple of curves that I take where I get that "walking" feeling especially that curve on 311 that takes you onto 40. That will be the sucker that I'll be paying attention to after the install.

You mean the two-lane curve that goes to one lane just before you merge onto 40? The curve where the slower traffic is always in the left lane, and you are trying to get around them on the right before it merges down to one lane? Wouldn’t know anything about it...

 

[R-Spectable]

You mean the two-lane curve that goes to one lane just before you merge onto 40? The curve where the slower traffic is always in the left lane, and you are trying to get around them on the right before it merges down to one lane? Wouldn’t know anything about it...

 

[MathWiz]

Thank You FlynBlind for the excellent write up

I have taken the first post and created a PDF that is easier to print out.



I hope this helps, I purchased mine on Tuesday waiting to receive them, I will print this out and give it to the installer.

Charles

 

[flynblind]

That should be very handy!

I am glad that this write up is getting miles (so to speak).

 

[Rloyola0426]

Has anybody installed these on a 2015 2G or have any knowledge on them being compatible? I want to install them but need to know they fit and are the right type/amount before I pull the trigger.

 

[Rey]

I can confirm that any Hyundai Genesis rigid collar kit will fit a 2012 RSpec, a 2013 3.8 V6 and a 2014 Equus.
My sense is that Hyundai uses the same bolt diameter to mount subframes on every Genesis, which means that a collar kit will fit every Genesis.

 

[MathWiz]

I had mine installed today, the tech said these were the best instructions he had used. He said the pictures were very helpful.

Charles

 

[NJTom]

I just ordered a set last week and hopefully I'll be able to install them over the holidays using those instructions. Thanks in advance.

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[srobak]

I may have to reach out to them and see if they have a kit for the G2 sedan...

 

[R-Spectable]

After 40k miles it was time to retire the trusty OEM Continentals for a set of BFG G-Force Comp 2/A A/S tires.
Along with the mounting and balancing, The rigid collar kit that I've been holding onto was finally installed and topped off with a 4 wheel alignment.
This car is a totally different animal now, nice, tight and quieter with the new rubber!
With the old setup, I was definitely noticing that the steering was being punished by uneven road surfaces. Now it's straight as an arrow and a real treat to drive, even on the cruddy patch-job roads we have around here.
As these tires are in the break-in stage, I haven't really cracked the whip yet. But I'm looking forward to it. Plus, there will be heavy rain in the next couple of days, so I'll be checking that out as well.
I can't leave out a salutation to the Contis for holding up as well as they did until now.
If you've been on the fence regarding the rigid collars, then, jump over the damn thing and getcha some! I'm thoroughly happy with the results!

I almost forgot to thank flynblind again for his excellent tutorial! Thanks!!

 

[Rloyola0426]

We need some for the G2!!

 

[Joe29365]

Hey guys, just purchased an '11 4.6L with 24K miles. It replaces my '11 Sonata 2.4L. Love the car but do want to tighten up the driving feel. Thanks for this post. Looks like a rather easy improvement I can make. Would also like to be able to totally disable the traction control when I feel like it, improve the shocks/struts and springs, see if I can have the steering programmed to R-Spec program, exhaust, frame bracing, etc... Guessing I can find some of the answers on this forum.
This is the link I found for the collars: Rigid Collars Kit For 2009-2014 Genesis Sedan - Genesis Owners

 

[swbruno]

I'm looking for a mechanic in the DFW area that can do this installation. I've had these collars for about 6 months and just don't have the time or means to do it myself. Any suggestions?

 

[Sluh]

I'm still not completely convinced to order.
Could it be that just retorquing subframe bolts would do the same thing? Fine thread bolts used there should put tremendous clamping pressure to eliminate any possible movements between subframe and body.

 

[Sluh]

Pulled the trigger though. I think main benefit comes from a better subframe to the body alignment that will make wheel alignment better in theory by symmetrizing camber and caster angles, if the body is straight. My used genny have been trhrough several alignments at the dealer according to carfax, and I can feel why. It doesn't roll right still. Will see if it helps.

I thought about just turning bolt spacers without any shoulders on the lathe from steel, but decided it will take more of my time than unique collars worth. I will take pictures, how well subframe holes were aligned to the mounting holes on the body from the start.

 

[amartz]

I'm still not completely convinced to order.
Could it be that just retorquing subframe bolts would do the same thing? Fine thread bolts used there should put tremendous clamping pressure to eliminate any possible movements between subframe and body.

I did, and don't regret it. It's not like this is an expensive modification with bad side effects!

 

[Sluh]

Doing them right now. For those, who interested, torque spec for front subframe bolts is 137.3 ~ 156.9Nm (14.0 ~ 16.0kgf.m, 101.3 ~ 115.7lb-ft).
Could not find specs for the rear subframe in the manual, but I'm sure it's the same.

 

[amartz]

Let us know what you think after you drive it a bit. Don't forget to get an alignment done, immediately!