Winter wheel & tire packages?

KptKrunch · Nov 27, 2019

Springer said:
Individually wrapped & sealed in black plastic bags. Best I can do.

Don't wrap them in plastic, it will retain moisture inside and will promote rust. It's best to let them breath. Wrap /cover them with blankets if you can.

JeremyTD · Nov 27, 2019

After reading a few of the more recent comments did a quick BING search and this is the first article I found on storing tires.

Have to say I learned something.

Springer · Nov 27, 2019

KptKrunch said:
Don't wrap them in plastic, it will retain moisture inside and will promote rust. It's best to let them breath. Wrap /cover them with blankets if you can.

Tires only, no wheels... so I'm less worried about rust.

genericgenesis · Nov 27, 2019

Springer said:
Tires only, no wheels... so I'm less worried about rust.

I posted tire tote earlier in the thread (Amazon Sign-In). I think it’s convenient to store and carry your tiered and fairly cheap. I’d also recommend buying a cover (Amazon Sign-In) so animals (squirrels etc) don’t nibble on them.

Falldog · Dec 2, 2019

Late update, still been to lazy to test the pressure myself, but the numbers in the car have since updated to match what we put in after going for a proper drive.

Husky · Dec 2, 2019

JeremyTD said:
After reading a few of the more recent comments did a quick BING search and this is the first article I found on storing tires.

Have to say I learned something.

Thanks for the link, I have to confess I've never thought to search for info on this topic. After doing so, I did find multiple articles from tire websites saying to store tires in a climate controlled area. Really?! I'm not going to lug all my tires down to the basement and back every six months.
Am I the only one who thinks these tips border on the extreme? Vacuuming air out of the bag? Ozone from a "nearby" motor (how close is that?) IMHO people are overthinking this. Every year for the past couple of decades I've stored multiple sets of summer tires in an unheated garage with no ill effects that I have ever noticed. In fact, my local tire shop keeps their whole tire inventory in a non-temperature controlled space above their garage bays.
If they were museum pieces I would understand, but these things do have a tendency to wear out when used.
It's actually during the warmer months that I notice a degradation, where the tread seems to disappear, presumably from friction against a rough surface

In all seriousness, I wouldn't leave them out in the snow, or under a set of UV lamps, or in a room full of toxic vapors that I wouldn't breathe. But you'd have to show me scientific data to prove that storing them in my barn or garage is going to degrade or shorten their life in any meaningful way before I wear them out anyway in a few seasons.

Falldog · Dec 2, 2019

They're round, so you could just roll them up and down...

People are def overthinking things, but they're tyres are serious business for a lot of folks.

Husky · Dec 2, 2019

Haha.
Don't get me wrong, after dropping $1,000+ on a set of summer tires, I don't want to ruin them either. In fact, some of my friends might accuse me of having a tire fetish, since I seem to always be researching them, reading reviews or buying them. But the thought that storing them in my garage for the winter will damage them just doesn't pass the smell test.

genericgenesis · Dec 2, 2019

Husky said:
Thanks for the link, I have to confess I've never thought to search for info on this topic. After doing so, I did find multiple articles from tire websites saying to store tires in a climate controlled area. Really?! I'm not going to lug all my tires down to the basement and back every six months.
Am I the only one who thinks these tips border on the extreme? Vacuuming air out of the bag? Ozone from a "nearby" motor (how close is that?) IMHO people are overthinking this. Every year for the past couple of decades I've stored multiple sets of summer tires in an unheated garage with no ill effects that I have ever noticed. In fact, my local tire shop keeps their whole tire inventory in a non-temperature controlled space above their garage bays.
If they were museum pieces I would understand, but these things do have a tendency to wear out when used.
It's actually during the warmer months that I notice a degradation, where the tread seems to disappear, presumably from friction against a rough surface
In all seriousness, I wouldn't leave them out in the snow, or under a set of UV lamps, or in a room full of toxic vapors that I wouldn't breathe. But you'd have to show me scientific data to prove that storing them in my barn or garage is going to degrade or shorten their life in any meaningful way before I wear them out anyway in a few seasons.

Maybe I'm just neurotic because I actually moved my tires from a storage room beside the hot water tank (because the motor and ozone production....) but I do agree. I think for most people, most of the suggestions are ridiculous.

I'm not sure where you live, but if you live in Canada, most places have an option for storage for nominal amount ($60-100 CAD in my area).

Out of curiosity, do you do hard driving/racing? I wonder if that's when you would notice the difference in storage methodology. Anecdotally, most race series are very anal about tire temperatures. I don't think it matters much about storage if the tire has never been use (so it's fine for the tire shop you mentioned to store them that way) but I do think the chemical compound would be altered if they go from hot to cold. If I wasn't so busy with work and lazy, I can post links to chemical journals regarding this. Maybe I will if enough people care for the science....

Husky · Dec 2, 2019

I live in NH. We've got regular storage places of various sizes all over the place - just metal sheds on a slab basically. There are also some climate controlled storage buildings around, but I think they're pretty pricey. I was always looking at winter storage for my cars, not my tires

Yes, in motor racing tire temps are certainly very important - while on the track, and I don't imagine they store the tires anywhere that's too hot or cold either.
In my younger days I had a car that I would take to a road course (Lime Rock), which was an absolute blast. Since those days, I've always planned to take my M3 to the track, but for a variety of reasons it hasn't happened. My son keeps bugging me to go autocrossing with him. We'll see - it eats tires.
I agree that if you were racing, and good enough at it that your times were very consistent, then maybe things like tire storage temp could become a factor. I think for most of us, the nut holding the wheel is the biggest factor by far.

Husky · Dec 2, 2019

I have heard that the number of heat cycles is an issue with racing tires. When we dabbled in kart racing, the regulars would toss their tires (Dunlop racing slicks) after a certain number of races, regardless of wear, claiming that they weren't good enough after too many cycles. I have no idea if they were right, or how much of a difference it really made. In any case, this wasn't a winter storage issue. I got the impression it mattered more how many times they got hot, and then cooled, rather than how cool they got on one occasion.
It would be interesting to learn the science behind it.

Toddasaurus · Dec 5, 2019

I'm telling ya, it's all pointless unless you're using R compound tires and/or you've got a set of tires specifically for the track. For normal everyday driving, it won't make any noticeable difference - just keep them covered and you're fine. Definitely overthinking this.

Terdbath · Dec 6, 2019

Konig Dekagram 18 X 8.5 +35 w Yokahama Blue Earth winter tires.

tarhoosier · Dec 6, 2019

STRONG presentation

mandwer · Dec 8, 2019

Looks like a good option. Did you order them from TireRack?

Terdbath · Dec 9, 2019

I researched both Discount Tire and Tire Rack for a couple weeks in October. This set came from Discount Tire.

elsid88 · Dec 12, 2019

Falldog said:
Got everything installed yesterday,

https://imgur.com/nbpzdG8

https://imgur.com/8mtOFnz

Probably should've gone gray for over all look, but as the stock are gray, I figured I'd mix it up for a a bit of the year.

- 225/45R-18 Perelli Winter Sottozero 3 XL
- 18x8 Enkei Performance Vulan with 35 offset

Road noise is definitely up, but I'll probably tune it out completely next time I go for a ride.

I only drive a couple miles on the way home from the shop yesterday, but I noticed that it seemed to pick up the TPMS immediately (I say seem because I just had the car serviced and I didn't think to check the pressures prior to the tire swap).

What's interesting is that I filled them to 36 front, 39 rear. But the info is showing 38 front, 41 rear. 2 psi higher. Is that just because I went from 19s to 18s, and the TPMS need more time?

Just got the same rims but in Anthracite so you will have an idea of what that gray looks like with MB. As soon as they are installed, pictures forthcoming. Question, were you going to leave the center caps, look for Genesis caps or use the caps from the other rims? Just curious.

Dabg70 · Dec 12, 2019

I went with these from canadian tire, looks good!

Beefer · Dec 12, 2019

Dabg70 said:
I went with these from canadian tire, looks good!

Looks really good!!! Wow.

G80Cougar · Dec 14, 2019

I had my new snow rims put on my 2018 G80 Sport today. I went with XXR - 559's in 18 X 8.5 with a +35 offset in Chromium black that is kind of a glossy metallic gunmetal. They also come in black and bronze and were only about $150/wheel. I used my old 225/50/18 Xice Xi3's that I had on my previous car. I plan to get one more season out of them as I'm down to about 6/32nds. Here are some pics I'll try to get some with better pics with better light conditions.