2015 Genesis Sedan Reviews

[tazrig]

Slower doesn't necessarily equate to poorer handling.

Too bad about the amount of weight gain, but the 2G Genesis probably feels more substantial and rides really quiet.

If Hyundai does follow thru w/ a real performance trim - aside from a FI motor, performance-oriented tuning, etc. - should lose some weight.

The Genesis engines, (both the 3.8L and the 5L) are fuel injected, they just don't have turbo's or super charging on them.

 

[Mark_888]

The Genesis engines, (both the 3.8L and the 5L) are fuel injected, they just don't have turbo's or super charging on them.

As of 2012 they both use Gasoline Direct Injection, which is different than regular fuel injection. GDI yields better HP and/or fuel mileage, at the expense of leaving behind some carbon deposits inside the engine.

 

[Fast55]

Slower doesn't necessarily equate to poorer handling.

Too bad about the amount of weight gain, but the 2G Genesis probably feels more substantial and rides really quiet.

If Hyundai does follow thru w/ a real performance trim - aside from a FI motor, performance-oriented tuning, etc. - should lose some weight.

Good God really??? IT LAPPED THE FIGURE EIGHT WITH A LONGER ELAPSED TIME = It's SLOWER. Splitting hairs over the subjective (yes, subjective) quality of "handling" is just that. So it "feels" more substantial (you guess) than the old car? I own the "old car" and that is not an area that needed improvement.

Styling aside since that too is subjective, the car gained weight, lost a few HP, while the price increased. Not things that will do much for it's market share. Without brand "cachet" or much of a repeat customer base to draw from, (it's my guess) sales won't improve.

 

[jcox12]

Good God really??? IT LAPPED THE FIGURE EIGHT WITH A LONGER ELAPSED TIME = It's SLOWER. Splitting hairs over the subjective (yes, subjective) quality of "handling" is just that. So it "feels" more substantial (you guess) than the old car? I own the "old car" and that is not an area that needed improvement.

Styling aside since that too is subjective, the car gained weight, lost a few HP, while the price increased. Not things that will do much for it's market share. Without brand "cachet" or much of a repeat customer base to draw from, (it's my guess) sales won't improve.

I owned the old car as well. But your guess that it won't improve market share may not be accurate. We won't know for sure until it is released but for those folks who don't want to drag race their car around town and who want to have enough pickup to avoid danger and/or feel exhilarated, they may well be perfectly fine with the "slower" 2G genesis. I also had the 221hp 2006 Sonata and it was fine to get around town and had enough pickup on the interstate to meet needs. You can't be short sighted and think HP lost are deal breakers for everyone who may consider purchasing this car. When they are adding all of the other features they are adding to the vehicle. I think the vehicle will do just fine and it will continue to be a vehicle that causes folks to consider Hyundai vehicles, which WILL increase market share. Actually if you own the old car and choose not to buy the new car, their market share stays the same. But I believe there will be lots of new folks coming over to Hyundai. Will be interesting to see how it plays out.

 

[Alwaysforward]

Ditto... ^

 

[Mark_888]

I owned the old car as well. But your guess that it won't improve market share may not be accurate. We won't know for sure until it is released but for those folks who don't want to drag race their car around town and who want to have enough pickup to avoid danger and/or feel exhilarated, they may well be perfectly fine with the "slower" 2G genesis. I also had the 221hp 2006 Sonata and it was fine to get around town and had enough pickup on the interstate to meet needs. You can't be short sighted and think HP lost are deal breakers for everyone who may consider purchasing this car. When they are adding all of the other features they are adding to the vehicle. I think the vehicle will do just fine and it will continue to be a vehicle that causes folks to consider Hyundai vehicles, which WILL increase market share. Actually if you own the old car and choose not to buy the new car, their market share stays the same. But I believe there will be lots of new folks coming over to Hyundai. Will be interesting to see how it plays out.

I think this an accurate assessment. The first generation Genesis was a little schizophrenic and couldn't decide whether it was supposed to be a sports sedan (or at least sports sedan pretender) or a luxo-cruiser. Probably to some degree it was both depending on what trim level and engine was selected.

There was probably a lot of disagreement within Hyundai about this, as John Krakcik (former HMA CEO) modified the USA version to have a relatively stiff suspension, which was gradually relaxed over the years as some gave push back on that. Ultimately, I think Hyundai Korea wanted to be more in the luxury market than the sport sedan market. I personally believe that it is not a coincidence that for 2015 there is not Genesis R-Spec (at least initially) and that John Krakcik was removed as HMA CEO in late 2013.

 

[Fast55]

The loss of a few HP is not a deal breaker. Adding 400 lbs. is not a deal breaker. Changing to a polarizing body style is not a deal breaker. Combining all of this with an increase in price is still not a deal breaker, but you see where I'm going. Now if the new car was Ferrari sexy, had better performance, and no increase in price, now you'd be talking potential home run compared to the old car.

The new car is none of these things, so while it may do "just fine", there is no reason whatsoever to think the new car will be a hit. It may do better than the first gen, but it never sold well.

It will take good numbers and looks to change that until buyers start feeling like BMW, MB, or Audi about buying and driving a Hyundai.

 

[Midnightsun]

Regardless, I will be buying simply because I get a more reliable car than any of the Germans produce. A killer warranty. A great luxo cruiser with options not even the Germans have at much less the cost. Is this not why we buy the Genesis after all? Everyone here is value oriented or you would not be on the Genesis forum.

If I wanted a real luxury car, Bentley comes to mind. If I wanted a real performance car, Porsche comes to mind. I do want the most equipped, value packed, reliable and great looking car the Genesis gen2 is ringing all the right bells

As for teething pains, Hyundai is still using the same engines and transmissions. The worst most talked about problem was the poor suspension which they tweaked as best as they could without a redesign and actually did quite well. With the Gen 2 they really started from square one and even had Lotus in to evaluate so I am pretty sure this will not be an issue. All the reviews so far have more or less glowing reviews when it comes to suspension and quietness these are 2 things we all look out for. Next on the agenda were issues with the entertainment system however my 2012 had none what so ever so they probably got this all fixed up. To tell you the truth, I have tried quite a few including Lexus and Mercedes and none can hold a candle to the simplicity of Hyundai's. To phone I simply push the listen button and say call home and it does, try that on any other system. Bottom line is I do not see many if any teething pains with the new gen.

I happen to have a Rspec but probably would have gone for the non Rspec 5.0 however this was not an option in Canada. V8 is mandatory Rspec here. I do not race but I like to press lightly on the gas an actually go somewhere, the V8 makes me happy and has plenty of oumph when you want to or when you're passing. I call this a safety feature which brings a smile to your face.

I will probably go for the V8 again however in Canada it seems like AWD is mandatory as well as ultimate package so basically it comes fully loaded period. Quite spendy at $62,000.

The only other options we have are V6 with 2 packages available but not fully loaded as the ultimate package seems to be missing on the V6 here and again you do need to take AWD which is not a bad thing with the winters we have.

 

[Fast55]

I may eventually buy another simply because it doesn't sell in large numbers. 3 and 5 series, E class, and LS cars are a dime a dozen. After all these years, a G is still a pretty rare sight.

 

[YEH]

^ These days, the LS460 is more of a rare sight than the Genesis sedan - which isn't suprising since the Genesis has been selling over 20k/yr while the LS460 has been around 10k - and this amplified by sales of the Genesis being concentrated in warm weather states.

But even a rarer sight - the GS (much less the M/Q70) - don't even see much of the older gen GS around.

The Genesis engines, (both the 3.8L and the 5L) are fuel injected, they just don't have turbo's or super charging on them.

Sorry - I should have been clearer - by FI, I meant forced-induction.

Supposedly, one of the new powerplants for the Genesis will be a twin-turbo 3.3. V6 and if Hyundai is serious about doing a real performance trim - a TT 5.0 would be in order (Hyundai had already tested supercharged Tau engines but decided to switch to TTs).

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[Midnightsun]

A little more on the tech features here. http://www.technologytell.com/in-car-tech/8612/new-genesis-exodus-spend-time-2015-hyundai-genesis/

 

[Fast55]

^ These days, the LS460 is more of a rare sight than the Genesis sedan - which isn't suprising since the Genesis has been selling over 20k/yr while the LS460 has been around 10k - and this amplified by sales of the Genesis being concentrated in warm weather states.

But even a rarer sight - the GS (much less the M/Q70) - don't even see much of the older gen GS around.

Around here, you can't swing a dead cat without hitting an S/E class, LS 430/460, 3/5 series. You'd think the LS sells 3X as many G's in So. Cal. Practically as common as a Prius. With the Rolls/Bentley dealer 2 miles away, even those are a more common sight than a Genesis.

 

[YEH]

I see a ton of the Panamera, Cayenne, Range Rover, Mercedes GL, S Class and the Tesla S.

People like em big and roomy - since many have kids.

And for their other car (or hubby's car) - the 911, Ferraris, Maseratis, Astons, etc. (not as many Lambos as a bit more conservative).

 

[Midnightsun]

A glowing Canadian review. http://driving.ca/hyundai/genesis/reviews/road-test/first-drive-2015-hyundai-genesis-sedan

 

[Midnightsun]

Extreme Tech Review. http://www.extremetech.com/extreme/...view-the-best-tech-at-the-best-price-bar-none

 

[Aquineas]

Good read.... They sound like a married couple in the video. Even worse, it was like deja vu with my husband when I'm driving. Ugh... LOL

lol my wife would purse her lips and give me the "I'm going silent and tuning you out because you're irritating me" look if I was like the gentleman in the video.

 

[Aquineas]

A glowing Canadian review. http://driving.ca/hyundai/genesis/reviews/road-test/first-drive-2015-hyundai-genesis-sedan

I thought that was a pretty good review. It will be interesting to hear the follow-up reviews come wintertime. Actually, I'd even be curious to hear how the AWD performed in the rain. It seems like all the reviews so far have been on sunny warm and dry days.

 

[akuma]

it appears there may have been another media drive in South Carolina where Appalachia appears to be a better test for the Genesis' handling than the Arizona desert.

the reviews are generally very positive, but a common negative theme is that the new Genesis is slower particularly compared to the "rivals" as well as thirstier which is never a good combination (using more gas for slower performance).

here are several very glowing new (not seen here) reviews from S.C. and a few others as well:

http://rawautos.com/2014/05/first-drive-2015-hyundai-genesis-the-new-sporty-luxury-sedan/

http://www.coolhunting.com/design/test-drive-2015-hyundai-genesis.php

http://www.topspeed.com/cars/hyundai/2015-hyundai-genesisowners-ar163325.html

http://www.automotiveaddicts.com/42704/2015-hyundai-genesis-sedan-review-test-drive

http://www.murfreesboropost.com/hyundai-s-direct-assault-on-the-luxury-market-cms-39190

http://testdrivenow.com/2015-hyundai-genesis-first-look/ (this article has a video on top that the article is based on verbatim)

http://www.tflcar.com/2014/05/2015-hyundai-genesis-review/

 

[HEY GURL]

Niceeeee.... love reading these articles. Awesome video... Thanks for sharing Akuma.

 

[akuma]

just biding my time until someone actually gets a Genni and we'll have real-life reviews and driving/ownership impressions. in the meantime, here's another batch of reviews from the Canadian media drive in British Columbia. i'm not cherry-picking them either; they're just all generally positive. I found a couple others, but they were pretty short and generic, even more generic then something you would read in the auto section in a local newspaper (i hate those type of reviews). the Canadian Geneses only come in HTRAC-AWD including the V8s, so there should be more insight in the workings of that particular drivetrain.

http://autos.ca.msn.com/reviews/2015/2015-hyundai-genesis-first-drive-1#page=0

http://www.autos.ca/first-drives/first-drive-2015-hyundai-genesis/?all=1

http://www.autofile.ca/Review/265/FIRST-DRIVE--2015-Hyundai-Genesis-sedan

http://www.wheels.ca/car-reviews/review-hyundai-genesis-2015/

http://www.autogo.ca/en/reviews/test-drive/2015-hyundai-genesis-learning-german

http://www.autonet.ca/en/2014/05/06/2015-hyundai-genesis

and one from a media drive held in New York (apparently there was one there too; the article/video with Steve Hammes in the previous post was also based in NY)

http://www.complex.com/rides/2014/05/2015-hyundai-genesis-test-drive-review-driving-notes

another common theme is that the car is extremely comfortable, especially the seats, and well riding. one interesting fact (factoid?) that I found by reading a couple of the articles (and doing a little further research), is that the Hyundai brand (not Hyundai/Kia, but just Hyundai alone) sells the most passenger cars (sedans, hatches, coupes, CUVs) in Canada. as long as light trucks (pickups, vans, and full-size SUVs; segments Hyundai doesn't compete in) are excluded, Hyundai is the best selling brand. I thought Ford, Chevy, Toyota and Honda sold more, but evidently not. even if you take out the Genesis/Equus since Ford and Honda don't sell anything like that in any of their divisions, they're still the best seller. so it makes you wonder; if Hyundai (and i guess Kia too) wasn't supply limited in the U.S. how well would they really sell?