Did you (or will you) buy a V6 or V8 2015 Genesis This Year?

[jimb100]

I live in Florida so AWD is not needed. I drove both engines a fair amount before deciding on the 5.0.

The V6 was not sluggish but here in Florida everyone drives 15 MPH over the limit or 15 under the limit. While the 8spd shifts pretty seamlessly, the V6 worked hard with revs staying in the 2-4 k range pulling away from lights, moving around slower traffic, merging, changing lanes, etc.

The 5.0 is effortless. Lots of low end torque and the trans downshifts smoothly when a little more go power is needed. You never feel as thought you are going to run out of pedal.

 

[Midnightsun]

The 5.0 is effortless. Lots of low end torque and the trans downshifts smoothly when a little more go power is needed. You never feel as thought you are going to run out of pedal.

Now that my friend is about as accurate and true as it gets.

 

[CanukV6]

Put me down for a 3.8 V6. Picking up my AWD White/Tan Luxury Edition today. Like others here, the V8 was never an option for economic reasons (even though is does come with AWD in Canada). I decided on the Luxury trim level as it has all the stuff I really need and I couldn't justify the extra $$ for the Tech edition even though it has some nice additional features.

 

[Aquineas]

I think Hyundai will be short on V8's. Like Hyundai, I thought the V6 would outsell the V8 10-1 but so far that is far from true. As mentioned there will also be those in the US that would have purchased the 8 but since AWD was more important they went with the 6 which would have been my case also however I lucked out.

One thing to keep in mind, speaking in broad terms, one might label V8 owners enthusiasts and thus more likely to make it to an online forum.

 

[harwax]

One thing to keep in mind, speaking in broad terms, one might label V8 owners enthusiasts and thus more likely to make it to an online forum.

I bought a 3.8 AWD and am very "enthusiastic" about my choice. AWD was more important to me than a V8. Living in NY, I would not consider a RWD.

 

[ferrethouse]

One thing to keep in mind, speaking in broad terms, one might label V8 owners enthusiasts and thus more likely to make it to an online forum.

Very good point. At the risk of hijacking the thread, how do you like your Fusion? I was actually considering the Fusion Titanium 2.0T through this buying process even though it isn't in the same segment as what I ended up with.

 

[FlySwatter]

One thing to keep in mind, speaking in broad terms, one might label V8 owners enthusiasts and thus more likely to make it to an online forum.

I see where you're coming from, but I'd have to respectfully disagree. Although you can get a Genesis for the paltry sum of $38K, I'm guessing that most of us are driving $50+K cars after option packages, so the V8 owners only have an extra $5-7K invested in their ride. Personally, I don't see that investment difference creating an "enthusiast" gap.

 

[Aquineas]

I see where you're coming from, but I'd have to respectfully disagree. Although you can get a Genesis for the paltry sum of $38K, I'm guessing that most of us are driving $50+K cars after option packages, so the V8 owners only have an extra $5-7K invested in their ride. Personally, I don't see that investment difference creating an "enthusiast" gap.

I respect your right to disagree . Just a clarification, I meant performance enthusiast, and didn't mean to imply anything financial. But in any case, it's probably a stretch either way.

 

[FlySwatter]

I respect your right to disagree . Just a clarification, I meant performance enthusiast, and didn't mean to imply anything financial. But in any case, it's probably a stretch either way.

Ah, fair enough, and I concur with your last point

 

[Aquineas]

Very good point. At the risk of hijacking the thread, how do you like your Fusion? I was actually considering the Fusion Titanium 2.0T through this buying process even though it isn't in the same segment as what I ended up with.

Note we don't have the Fusion anymore, we ended up trading it in for a gas-guzzling SUV :-(. We loved the mileage of the Fusion (despite it not getting anywhere close to 47mpg; real world mileage was 41-42, which still isn't bad). For us however, there were practical limitations: it didn't offer enough space for a double-stroller and all the required packing needed to support a two and a one-year-old. I also had some long-term questions about reliability; the engine on it started making a squeaking noise at one point and was diagnosed as having a "stuck port valve", which was fixed under warranty, but still made me nervous.

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[Mark_888]

One thing to keep in mind, speaking in broad terms, one might label V8 owners enthusiasts and thus more likely to make it to an online forum.

I know that going back to 2009-2010, the percentage of active posters on this forum who where Genesis V8 owners was higher than the percentage of Genesis V8's sold during those years.

 

[Aquineas]

I bought a 3.8 AWD and am very "enthusiastic" about my choice. AWD was more important to me than a V8. Living in NY, I would not consider a RWD.

As my wife is from the Buffalo area, I completely understand.

 

[DFWGenny]

I like a nimble car and felt that the 3.8 was better balanced. I was not looking for a rocket off the line, but 311 bhp is no slouch either. Since I have an AWD, the transfer case does offset that a bit.

Even growing up, I felt that the European sports cars were better than the American muscle cars of the time. Other than the fact that E type Jag was a maintenance nightmare, it would whip a Corvette of the same era in the corners. When it was out of the shop, of coarse.

If going off the line like a rocket is your thing, that's cool. For me, the V8 doesn't get me around the corner any faster. Now if there is a straight away after the corner, then you have me, but off the track, there is a limit to how much we can floor it.

 

[Aquineas]

I like a nimble car and felt that the 3.8 was better balanced. I was not looking for a rocket off the line, but 311 bhp is no slouch either. Since I have an AWD, the transfer case does offset that a bit.

Even growing up, I felt that the European sports cars were better than the American muscle cars of the time. Other than the fact that E type Jag was a maintenance nightmare, it would whip a Corvette of the same era in the corners. When it was out of the shop, of coarse.

If going off the line like a rocket is your thing, that's cool. For me, the V8 doesn't get me around the corner any faster. Now if there is a straight away after the corner, then you have me, but off the track, there is a limit to how much we can floor it.

I hear ya' man, I'm just not a corner-carver by nature most probably because where I've lived, it's typically been straight and flat. The best handling car I've ever owned was my 2004 TL. The TL was fun though in the mountains across the Rockies, but my idea of "fun" is probably about 6-10ths of driving, anything beyond that and I am nervous. If I lived in the Rockies or had occasion to drive them more often, I'm sure it would be more important to me (and consequently I'd probably be a better driver). I took my last Genesis to the Grand Canyon a couple of years back and AZ-89A between Sedona and Flagstaff took some concentration on my part, but there were drivers who took that road a lot faster, as I pulled over more than once to let better drivers pass me. Beautiful road though...

In any case, more often than not in Texas there's some miscreant who won't yield the merging lane on an expressway and it's convenient to be able to "make it a moot point" from time to time. The V8 is very, very handy for those moments.

 

[parpi]

Re: Engine Choice: did you (or will you) buy a V6 or V8 2015 Genesis This Year?

On a side note regarding the weight balance of the genesis, the advertised 52:48 weight distribution is not for the 5.0 and neither for the 3.8, it's actually for the 3.3 offered in Korea, so its not as balanced as they claim...

 

[Mark_888]

Re: Engine Choice: did you (or will you) buy a V6 or V8 2015 Genesis This Year?

On a side note regarding the weight balance of the genesis, the advertised 52:48 weight distribution is not for the 5.0 and neither for the 3.8, it's actually for the 3.3 offered in Korea, so its not as balanced as they claim...

On the 2009-2009 the 3.8 was 52-48. I believe that the 4.6/5.0 was 54-46. These where HMA specs published for USA versions.

The 3.3 and 3.8 are both "Lambda" engines, and probably very similar weight.

 

[ferrethouse]

I like a nimble car and felt that the 3.8 was better balanced. I was not looking for a rocket off the line, but 311 bhp is no slouch either. Since I have an AWD, the transfer case does offset that a bit.

Even growing up, I felt that the European sports cars were better than the American muscle cars of the time. Other than the fact that E type Jag was a maintenance nightmare, it would whip a Corvette of the same era in the corners. When it was out of the shop, of coarse.

If going off the line like a rocket is your thing, that's cool. For me, the V8 doesn't get me around the corner any faster. Now if there is a straight away after the corner, then you have me, but off the track, there is a limit to how much we can floor it.

It isn't just "off the line". It is passing power on the highway, merging power on the highway, and not having to floor it to add 30 km/h in the city. I suppose if I was going to do autocross the V6 would fare well but I won't be doing that. I'm not interesting into getting into "which is better argument" but to suggest that the only benefit to the V8 is "off the line" is simply not true.

 

[jimb100]

I like a nimble car and felt that the 3.8 was better balanced. I was not looking for a rocket off the line, but 311 bhp is no slouch either. Since I have an AWD, the transfer case does offset that a bit.

Even growing up, I felt that the European sports cars were better than the American muscle cars of the time. Other than the fact that E type Jag was a maintenance nightmare, it would whip a Corvette of the same era in the corners. When it was out of the shop, of coarse.

If going off the line like a rocket is your thing, that's cool. For me, the V8 doesn't get me around the corner any faster. Now if there is a straight away after the corner, then you have me, but off the track, there is a limit to how much we can floor it.

I've owned a few Corvettes and a 64 XKE. On most tracks a well prepared mid year Corvette will smoke the Jag. I think you're overrating the handling of the Jag. It's a 2500# sports car with a 3.8 L or 4.2 L truck engine up front. Not the best handling set up and not much different from the V8 up front in the Corvette. The big double over head cam engine in the Jag has a 10 quart oil sump, triple SUs and those wire wheels aren't all that light. Also, in the back the Jag has inboard brakes, mounted just either side of the differential, not a cool spot. A fun car and a real head turner but a handful to push through a corner. Look at race result from the era.

As far as the Genesis, I found the 6 pretty consistently taching between 3-4000 rpm when accelerating away from a light or passing slower traffic on a local road. The V8? I don't know because its so effortless you don't notice.

The other thing about the V6 is the pedal travel. I found that when accelerating, the pedal was nearly floored all the time. Not a lot of power in reserve. I was pushing the V6 where the V8 had a lot of power in reserve.

Of course you pay the price in fuel economy but since I'll only be driving the car 5k miles a year or so I was willing to accept the tradeoff.

 

[Mark_888]

As far as the Genesis, I found the 6 pretty consistently taching between 3-4000 rpm when accelerating away from a light or passing slower traffic on a local road. The V8? I don't know because its so effortless you don't notice.

The other thing about the V6 is the pedal travel. I found that when accelerating, the pedal was nearly floored all the time. Not a lot of power in reserve. I was pushing the V6 where the V8 had a lot of power in reserve.

Either you are carrying a lot of weight around in the V6 (passengers or stuff in the trunk) or you have a serious case of lead foot.

 

[jimb100]

Either you are carrying a lot of weight around in the V6 (passengers or stuff in the trunk) or you have a serious case of lead foot.

I don't think so. It's well over 4100# with a tank of gas and driver and it puts out only 311 HP and that's not happening low in the rev range.

Put another way, it's about 6.5 sec 0-60 and that's with the pedal on the floor.