Early Owner Feedback

[GenesisYEG]

It holds it fairely tight, but don't plan on hands free driving like a Tesla. If you take your hands off the wheel for even a fairly short time (maybe 30 seconds) it sounds an alarm cancels the LKAS and the cruise control. I think of it more as a safety device should I fall asleep or pass out than an assistant driver.

I agree but the timeframe it drives itself varies based on the conditions. I've had the G70 drive me without asking me for input for 5+ minutes...

 

[EdP]

I agree but the timeframe it drives itself varies based on the conditions. I've had the G70 drive me without asking me for input for 5+ minutes...

Quite a change from both my cars. That sounds good.

 

[Windchaser]

The lane keep assist works very well in my G80. I have even experimented a bit and it has driven me around curves. It will nag at me to keep my hands on the wheel. I haven't timed it but it probably takes a few minutes. I have had false warnings if I am driving down long straight road and am loosely holding the wheel. I just need to jiggle the steering wheel slightly to satisfy the system I am still holding the wheel.

 

[Edmguy]

What about lane keep assist? Can it hold the car in the middle of the lane or it bounces back and forth

So this is something I have been playing with quite a bit this week as I have had the car for almost two weeks and starting to get comfortable with it (~1400km).

In the map below, I drive the length of the Whitemud Freeway from the one red dot to the other twice a day. With the exception of the area between the two red lines, I can go the entire distance with the car steering and me just touching the steering wheel every 30 seconds or so.


Now some things to note:

- The car is surprisingly good at holding the center of the lane, although sometimes it seems to favor one side or the other a bit and always the side I don't want it to favor.
- It seems to vary between 20 seconds and several minutes that you can go without touching the wheel, haven't figured out how it determines that though
- When the car tells you to hold the steering wheel, you have a couple seconds to do it before it temporarily disables the active steering
- While you have plenty of time I have noticed that a light touch to the rim of the wheel doesn't register, you need to kind of 'wiggle' the steering wheel a tiny bit, and I have even just pushed on one of the spokes slightly and that seems to work. So it doesn't take much but you have to move the wheel ever so slightly
- In turns it seems like it can only hold up to a certain amount of g's. For example, between the red lines in my map above, when heading west if I have my cruise set below 90km/h it can steer through that turn. Above 90 it can't do it. Heading east, the turn is tighter and it seems to cut out steering half way through even down to 80km/h. Not interested in trying slower.
- When cutting active steering mid corner, it doesn't just immediately recenter the wheel, it will hold the current angle for a bit so you have time to react without the car swerving out of your lane
- One thing I have noticed is it doesn't like many freeway on/off ramps even if they are relatively straight and have good lane markings. I think the problem is some of them (the ones I have been on anyway) are wider than normal lanes so it can't always see both lines as they are too far apart.

Overall the active steering is better than I expected and a nice bonus. I didn't expect to use it but I do quite a bit of freeway driving and find it to be really nice and relaxing although I still pay full attention to the green steering wheel in the HUD.

 

[Windchaser]

I have had a very similar experience in my G80. After reading this post yesterday I decided to try a bit of an experiment and wanted to see how long it would drive for me. I was cruising between 70 and 80 MPH on the tollway in the Chicago metro area. It drove the straight route without me having to do anything. As you mentioned, it did seem to favor one side of the laen over the other. In my case I was slightly right of center but still well within my lane. It was just a little odd when the car was driving itself and I had a car on my left. It was a strange feeling letting the car handle the driving. However, it did surprisingly well and for a period of about 5 minutes never gave me the warning to put my hands on the wheel. It is nice having the active lane assist.

 

[EdP]

I have had a very similar experience in my G80.

. However, it did surprisingly well and for a period of about 5 minutes never gave me the warning to put my hands on the wheel. It is nice having the active lane assist.

I wonder what the time is supposed to be. I never got more than about a minute. Others have complained they get alarms on long straightaways even with a light touch on the wheel. I don't think we even determined how it senses wheel contact. I've tried using a glove or even cuff of a heavy shirt and it knows my hand is on the wheel but a very light one finger can set it off.

 

[Mcc]

I wonder what the time is supposed to be. I never got more than about a minute. Others have complained they get alarms on long straightaways even with a light touch on the wheel. I don't think we even determined how it senses wheel contact. I've tried using a glove or even cuff of a heavy shirt and it knows my hand is on the wheel but a very light one finger can set it off.

The manual in the G90 is very vague. It just says several seconds and could vary with road conditions.
I am not sure it s just pressure or contact. It may also be looking for the small turning adjustments you make when you are actually steering.

 

[Edmguy]

I am not sure it s just pressure or contact. It may also be looking for the small turning adjustments you make when you are actually steering.

I think it only looks for small steering adjustments. I have tried driving for several minutes with only touching the steering column (nowhere close to the rim of the wheel) and the car seems to think I am steering.

 

[devellis]

Yeah, I suspect it detects even minor steering inputs. One type of input would be if you turn the wheel even a little bit, perhaps even unconsciously making micro-adjustments. Another type would be if it tries to turn the wheel and senses resistance from your hand. In the latter case, you wouldn't actually be moving the wheel at all but it would attempt to make a small movement and see if it encountered resistance from a motionless hand. Again, the inputs could be minimal and the system might still detect them.

I don't know for a fact that that's what's happening but it would make sense. Electronic steering is all about sensing steering wheel rotation. In order to sense contact with the wheel independent of changes in position, they would have had to put additional sensors into the steering wheel itself, which would seem expensive and possibly error-prone (what with gloves, leather wheel wrapping, etc.). Detecting either rotation or resistance to rotation, even to a very small degree, seems like the likely mechanism and would make use of sensors already a part of the steering system.

 

[cars2see]

Yes, Northeast corner.

oh ok im near hartford , any idea on where they will be selling the genesis g70? i went to Hyundai in hartford and i was told by a rep there they aren't allowed to sell genesis cars...

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[EdP]

oh ok im near hartford , any idea on where they will be selling the genesis g70? i went to Hyundai in hartford and i was told by a rep there they aren't allowed to sell genesis cars...

My guess is Sullivan in New London and Herb Chambers in one of his MA locations.

 

[waveman]

I think it only looks for small steering adjustments. I have tried driving for several minutes with only touching the steering column (nowhere close to the rim of the wheel) and the car seems to think I am steering.

I've found that if I hold my hand(s) perfectly still on the steering wheel, the alarm will activate. Slight motions are usually sufficient. However, I've also found that the system's ability to detect the lane markers varies a lot. It seems to do better on freeways, though the right lane is sometimes problematic. On other roads, it sometimes switches between sensing and not sensing the lanes. Usually, though, it goes through an intermediate stage where it sees the markers and lets me know if I'm drifting, but not enough for LKAS, so-called Lane Departure Warning mode.

BTW, am I the only one who thinks that the LKAS HUD symbol looks like an alien with a hat?

 

[SVTong]

Whelp, now I can't un-see the alien. Thanks

 

[GenesisYEG]

So this is something I have been playing with quite a bit this week as I have had the car for almost two weeks and starting to get comfortable with it (~1400km).

In the map below, I drive the length of the Whitemud Freeway from the one red dot to the other twice a day. With the exception of the area between the two red lines, I can go the entire distance with the car steering and me just touching the steering wheel every 30 seconds or so.
View attachment 13640

Now some things to note:

- The car is surprisingly good at holding the center of the lane, although sometimes it seems to favor one side or the other a bit and always the side I don't want it to favor.
- It seems to vary between 20 seconds and several minutes that you can go without touching the wheel, haven't figured out how it determines that though
- When the car tells you to hold the steering wheel, you have a couple seconds to do it before it temporarily disables the active steering
- While you have plenty of time I have noticed that a light touch to the rim of the wheel doesn't register, you need to kind of 'wiggle' the steering wheel a tiny bit, and I have even just pushed on one of the spokes slightly and that seems to work. So it doesn't take much but you have to move the wheel ever so slightly
- In turns it seems like it can only hold up to a certain amount of g's. For example, between the red lines in my map above, when heading west if I have my cruise set below 90km/h it can steer through that turn. Above 90 it can't do it. Heading east, the turn is tighter and it seems to cut out steering half way through even down to 80km/h. Not interested in trying slower.
- When cutting active steering mid corner, it doesn't just immediately recenter the wheel, it will hold the current angle for a bit so you have time to react without the car swerving out of your lane
- One thing I have noticed is it doesn't like many freeway on/off ramps even if they are relatively straight and have good lane markings. I think the problem is some of them (the ones I have been on anyway) are wider than normal lanes so it can't always see both lines as they are too far apart.

Overall the active steering is better than I expected and a nice bonus. I didn't expect to use it but I do quite a bit of freeway driving and find it to be really nice and relaxing although I still pay full attention to the green steering wheel in the HUD.

Thanks for sharing! Going to try going on the Whitemud with LKAS <90km/h.

 

[Toddasaurus]

Hi all.Live south of Denver,Co.Dealers here have no idea when the G70 will arrive. Price of gas here is 2,70/gal and going up. This is my first post.

Welcome to the forum! I'm in Portland, OR, and I wish our gas prices were that cheap. Looking at $3.09/gallon for regular is the cheapest I've found, but that was a week ago so I'm sure it's more now. Haha.

As for arrival time, it sounds like it will realistically be around fall before we see the G70 in the US. Some rumors were saying summer, but I don't think we will be that lucky here in the states.

:c

 

[MindMechanic]

Hmm... to sorta resurrect the conversation on mileage, I'm at around 750+km on my car and am averaging 15L /100km... though I do mostly city driving... normal? expected? will I see improvements as the engine opens up?

 

[Edmguy]

I am up to 1900km now and my last tank was 11.3 with a mix. I have noticed on the trip mileage, that driving to work (mostly freeway) I can do the 43.5km drive as low as 8.8L/100km. Just driving around the city in sport I can be as high as 15 but that is being quite aggressive.

Maybe you will gain some self control after a few more weeks lol

 

[GenesisYEG]

So this is something I have been playing with quite a bit this week as I have had the car for almost two weeks and starting to get comfortable with it (~1400km).

In the map below, I drive the length of the Whitemud Freeway from the one red dot to the other twice a day. With the exception of the area between the two red lines, I can go the entire distance with the car steering and me just touching the steering wheel every 30 seconds or so.
View attachment 13640

Now some things to note:

- The car is surprisingly good at holding the center of the lane, although sometimes it seems to favor one side or the other a bit and always the side I don't want it to favor.
- It seems to vary between 20 seconds and several minutes that you can go without touching the wheel, haven't figured out how it determines that though
- When the car tells you to hold the steering wheel, you have a couple seconds to do it before it temporarily disables the active steering
- While you have plenty of time I have noticed that a light touch to the rim of the wheel doesn't register, you need to kind of 'wiggle' the steering wheel a tiny bit, and I have even just pushed on one of the spokes slightly and that seems to work. So it doesn't take much but you have to move the wheel ever so slightly
- In turns it seems like it can only hold up to a certain amount of g's. For example, between the red lines in my map above, when heading west if I have my cruise set below 90km/h it can steer through that turn. Above 90 it can't do it. Heading east, the turn is tighter and it seems to cut out steering half way through even down to 80km/h. Not interested in trying slower.
- When cutting active steering mid corner, it doesn't just immediately recenter the wheel, it will hold the current angle for a bit so you have time to react without the car swerving out of your lane
- One thing I have noticed is it doesn't like many freeway on/off ramps even if they are relatively straight and have good lane markings. I think the problem is some of them (the ones I have been on anyway) are wider than normal lanes so it can't always see both lines as they are too far apart.

Overall the active steering is better than I expected and a nice bonus. I didn't expect to use it but I do quite a bit of freeway driving and find it to be really nice and relaxing although I still pay full attention to the green steering wheel in the HUD.

I just tried that corner with Jenn going 89 km/h. Mid-corner the car told me to keep my hands on the wheel so I tugged the wheel a bit too much and overcorrected the corner and gave Jenn a heart attack. Going to try this again!

 

[Ojfox]

I'm at 650 km and I'm averaging high 13sL/100km. Seems to be improving as I put more km's. I was at 15L/100km for the first tank of gas. This is 90% short distance city and 10% highway.

On another note, anyone else having occasional false positives from the front parking sensor when stopped in traffic? Mine would randomly detect something in the yellow zone and beep for 2-3 seconds before returning to normal. This happens when I'm fully stopped without any change in distance to the vehicle in front of me.

 

[EdP]

I'm at 650 km and I'm averaging high 13sL/100km. Seems to be improving as I put more km's. I was at 15L/100km for the first tank of gas. This is 90% short distance city and 10% highway.

On another note, anyone else having occasional false positives from the front parking sensor when stopped in traffic? Mine would randomly detect something in the yellow zone and beep for 2-3 seconds before returning to normal. This happens when I'm fully stopped without any change in distance to the vehicle in front of me.

Yes, both in my present and last Genesis. Not all that close but something sets it off. In another thread someone said it was worse behind particular cars but I don't recall which ones.

I wonder if exhaust fumes from the car ahead can set it off under certain conditions, such as high moisture content from a cold engine.