2015/2016 Generation Genesis "Dislikes"

[Gunkk]

Re: 2015 Genesis "Dislikes"

Adjustments are covered for 12 months. So have the Dealer adjust it.

 

[Silver Gen]

Re: 2015 Genesis "Dislikes"

I had a 30 min road test in the 3.8 after looking with Rep. a couple of days
prior to avoid having to drive with a destracting sales person. This is car is
enjoyable to drive, I was immediately engaged feeling one with car. The seats
feel significantly better, softer response over bumps and uneven road, higher
dead pedal.

However, I did not like:

1. The windshield view/feel due it being flat
2. The rear view is more limited due to the stream lined angle and the center
headrest does not fold down as with the 1st Gen.
3. The sound of the engine was a bit odd, not refined that may improve after
break in.
4. The excelleration was delayed each time punched from 40 to 80 mph., able
to feel and hear the gear change, not in my Genny.
5. Did not like the top of the dashboard/glossy faux wood combo, felt cheap
not like in a true luxury car and the gloss reflected to much sunlight, the
matte will look better to me.
6. The use of brushed aluminum instead of chrome color for the exterior trim
is disappointing.
7. The rear trunk has not accent trim, to plain for those of us who love detail.
8. The smaller trunk space, not major but enough to mention.
9. The engine bay is not as impressive, just a cover but should look as good
as the first generation.
10. I missed the power the heft that I'm acustomed to my car, no trade in for
me this time around, it's too early.

Depot, don't know if anyone else has touched on what you did; re: the drop in power; 333 vs 311. It seems Hyundai gave up power for tech; right now I'm feeling like you; disappointed, and trying to figure out if they have "down-tuned" the engine, because it seems to be the same as the one in our vehicles.

 

[Pahaska]

Re: 2015 Genesis "Dislikes"

I have a new dislike. Fit and finish. It's been 3 weeks and I just noticed the rear corner of the hood on the passenger side is raised greater than a 1/8" where it meets the front quarter panel. Standing over it, it is hardly noticeable, but it is very annoying from the perspective of the driver's seat. The other 3 corners are perfect and there doesn't appear to be any evidence of any event that could have caused this. I didn't see an obvious adjustment but I plan on taking a closer look tomorrow.

I thought the same thing looking from the driver's seat, but my panels are perfectly aligned if I check outside. It is just unfortunate that the view from inside catches the corner of the hood in a way that liiks unaligned.

 

[italiabrain]

Re: 2015 Genesis "Dislikes"

Depot, don't know if anyone else has touched on what you did; re: the drop in power; 333 vs 311. It seems Hyundai gave up power for tech; right now I'm feeling like you; disappointed, and trying to figure out if they have "down-tuned" the engine, because it seems to be the same as the one in our vehicles.

It's not down-tuned in the sense normally used (like losing hp and torque on purpose to prevent direct comparisons; think Audi and VW 2.0T)

The engine gained torque in exchange for its lost peak horsepower. It's unclear whether this would have been an overall gain or loss in total performance if it were dropped into the previous gen. Because of the simultaneous weight increase it's difficult to isolate the engine itself as a variable. Total performance has more to do with "area under the curve" than it does with peak power, especially if we're talking about a start from 0.

The big question in my mind is actually whether Hyundai might have changed their rating hedges. I've followed the 5.0 more closely since that's what I bought, but considering identical displacement, an increased compression ratio, and what looked like a higher flow intake I expected a bump, not a drop (even at peak, not just average). Considering that, they may have revised not just the engines, but they may have also built in a more customary HP overhead that was previously absent.

I'm not going to look it up again because it's been posted multiple times before, but on a dyno the outgoing 5.0 ran about 10 less hp than the M56 while also advertising having 9 more and Infiniti isn't huge about under-rating their cars. I don't think Hyundai was lying, I think the outgoing really made 429 under ideal conditions at the flywheel they just didn't build in the same hedge as everyone else which led to jokes about "hyundai power" as a different unit of measure, especially in the luxury world. We'll have to wait until someone does a side-by-side dyno to really figure out.

 

[italiabrain]

Re: 2015 Genesis "Dislikes"

I thought the same thing looking from the driver's seat, but my panels are perfectly aligned if I check outside. It is just unfortunate that the view from inside catches the corner of the hood in a way that liiks unaligned.

I agree, I specifically looked for what was mentioned and see what you mean, but the other side looks the same way from the passenger's seat, and they're clearly level when you crouch down to bring them eye level from outside the car.

 

[bsantelli]

Re: 2015 Genesis "Dislikes"

I have a new dislike. Fit and finish. It's been 3 weeks and I just noticed the rear corner of the hood on the passenger side is raised greater than a 1/8" where it meets the front quarter panel. Standing over it, it is hardly noticeable, but it is very annoying from the perspective of the driver's seat. The other 3 corners are perfect and there doesn't appear to be any evidence of any event that could have caused this. I didn't see an obvious adjustment but I plan on taking a closer look tomorrow.

My 3.8 ultimate is the very same way. it is NOT perception (based on where you are sitting) as mentioned in one reply - the passenger side corner of the hood near the window is definately 1/8 or so inch higher. on the drivers side, I can run my finger over the seam and both panels are even, but on the passenger side there is a definate bump up to the hood.

Now, that being said, I am not the type of person that would have ever in a million years noticed that on my own - I only looked because of powerslide's post, so it doesn't really bother me too much.

 

[Pahaska]

Re: 2015 Genesis "Dislikes"

After 4 days in the new Ultimate 3.8, the only thing I found not to like is the too-small cup holders. Especially the rear cup holder which is a little smaller than the front one. found that my insulated cup fits in the front one OK, but iwill not fit in the rear one.

Love the heads-up display and the navigation is years better than my 2009. Sound is great. I'm happily loading the Jukebox with my CD collection off USB drives.

Short-legged people really have to duck when getting in and out of the driver's seat. I did not have my seat go back in the 2009, but I have it go halfway back in this one after banging my head a couple of times. I'm 82 and I don't fold as easily as I used to.

 

[Ernie3647]

Re: 2015 Genesis "Dislikes"

You ever notice how many “likes” there are in the “dislikes” thread.

 

[drubush]

Re: 2015 Genesis "Dislikes"

+1

 

[drubush]

Re: 2015 Genesis "Dislikes"

You ever notice how many “likes” there are in the “dislikes” thread.

+1

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[frankmcr]

Re: 2015 Genesis "Dislikes"

I drove a V6 2015 last Friday, and this really bothered me too. Seriously, why would they not put fog lights on a premium luxury sedan? The car has ventilated seats. Automatic rain sensing wipers. My Santa Fe has fog lights. The Sonata has fog lights. The Elantra has fog lights. Hell, the Accent has fog lights!!! This is a serious omission, especially for somebody who lives in a low lying coastal area where we get incredibly dense fog.

Other than that, the car is amazing. But I just don't know if I can bring myself to buy a $40,000 car with no fog lights. This is just stupid. It makes about as much sense as the Hyundai/Kia cars where only the driver's seat is ventilated.

I want an AWD 3.8 Ultimate. No dealer within 200 miles has what I want. The local dealer suggested I may have to order what I wanted. It would take 90 days. I ask if it would be built at the factory to my requirements. He said yes. Ok then tell them I want to add in fog lights. He looked at me a little funny. I pointed out the 5.0 has fog lights and all Canadian 3.8 have fog lights as standard. Same body style. Without even giving it a try he said it was impossible. I didn't place an order. Long time ago when I special ordered a Porsche I got special consideration about something I wanted.

 

[powerslide]

Re: 2015 Genesis "Dislikes"

After 4 days in the new Ultimate 3.8, the only thing I found not to like is the too-small cup holders. Especially the rear cup holder which is a little smaller than the front one. found that my insulated cup fits in the front one OK, but iwill not fit in the rear one....

Yes, the second cup holder is useless unless you drink from 12 oz. cans because that is about the only thing that will fit there. 16 oz. juice or Gatorade bottles don't fit. 95% of the time I'm driving by myself so it doesn't bother me, but it is a stark contrast to have a car with 4 cup holders (only 2 if 5 people in car) compared to my wife's minivan which seems to have an estimated 37 cup holders

 

[keithl]

Re: 2015 Genesis "Dislikes"

I want an AWD 3.8 Ultimate. No dealer within 200 miles has what I want. The local dealer suggested I may have to order what I wanted. It would take 90 days. I ask if it would be built at the factory to my requirements. He said yes. Ok then tell them I want to add in fog lights. He looked at me a little funny. I pointed out the 5.0 has fog lights and all Canadian 3.8 have fog lights as standard. Same body style. Without even giving it a try he said it was impossible. I didn't place an order. Long time ago when I special ordered a Porsche I got special consideration about something I wanted.

Most makes are not set up to custom order options like that. VW Group does have provisions in place for Audi and Porsche, but go ask for special paint on an Audi and it is $2500-$5000 to custom order paint, and all you are doing is getting a color from the Audi line-up that is not available on your specific model, it is not like they are making a custom color. There are numerous things that have to happen logistically when a "one off" is built and most makes do not feel the cost is justified.

 

[keithl]

Re: 2015 Genesis "Dislikes"

Yes, the second cup holder is useless unless you drink from 12 oz. cans because that is about the only thing that will fit there. 16 oz. juice or Gatorade bottles don't fit. 95% of the time I'm driving by myself so it doesn't bother me, but it is a stark contrast to have a car with 4 cup holders (only 2 if 5 people in car) compared to my wife's minivan which seems to have an estimated 37 cup holders

I know they hired the Audi exec and copied a lot of Audi here, but seems they closed the Audi tiny cup holders as well ;-)

 

[joeponds1]

Re: 2015 Genesis "Dislikes"

I just seen a 2015 Genny driving right next to me and then it made a right turn. It looked CHEAP especially with than small 3.8 emblem on the trunk lid, let alone the flying H on top of the deck..Black slits where fog light should be. I was confused for a minute,then identified it as a genny.I was disappointed.
To me generation one never looked better!

 

[italiabrain]

Re: 2015 Genesis "Dislikes"

I just seen a 2015 Genny driving right next to me and then it made a right turn. It looked CHEAP especially with than small 3.8 emblem on the trunk lid, let alone the flying H on top of the deck..Black slits where fog light should be. I was confused for a minute,then identified it as a genny.I was disappointed.
To me generation one never looked better!

I'm confused by this. I know everyone (including myself) has some confirmation bias with buying decisions, but I don't get your comments. You expected a bigger (gaudier?) 3.8 emblem? The flying H is less of an issue than your model considering there's only one to swap. I'm no fan of the V6 not having fogs, but it's not obvious they're faked. If you hadn't already identified it as a Genesis by that point I don't know how you could even pick them out.

 

[joeponds1]

Re: 2015 Genesis "Dislikes"

Italia, In my opinion the engine displacement emblem looks cheap! They should of left it off. Too bad about Italy in the world cup.
Ciao

 

[Midnightsun]

Re: 2015 Genesis "Dislikes"

Italia, In my opinion the engine displacement emblem looks cheap! They should of left it off. Too bad about Italy in the world cup.
Ciao

No big deal, just remove it and the flying H if you do not like it. I will remove the words Genesis on the back. One side will have Tau V8 the other The original HTRAC 5.0 http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=uVRCki2FYls and of course the wings on the trunk. May even do fender candy V8's The beauty of this is it is simply stick on and no damage done if you change your mind.

 

[lncaylor]

Re: 2015 Genesis "Dislikes"

You may not want to remove the "Genesis". I was behind a 2015 Genesis the other day and I was sure it was a Sonata until I got close enough to see the Genesis badge on the rear. To me the rear was uninspiring and the car looked smaller even though I know it is the same size as gen 1 vehicles.

 

[FJRmann]

Re: 2015 Genesis "Dislikes"

Too bad about Italy in the world cup.

nope not really, USA!!