2015/2016 Generation Genesis "Dislikes"

[2015g5.0]

Yes, it does.

Thanks. Is there a solution? or please direct me to the right thread to read/follow up on.

 

[joegr]

Thanks. Is there a solution? or please direct me to the right thread to read/follow up on.

No, there is no solution.

Verizon 3g shutdown and our 2015 genesis cars.

Okay, so title says it. Verizon is set to shut down their 3g network Dec 31, 2022. So that means 2015 Gennys will no longer have bluelink access. I know that other hyundais have already experienced this or are about to experience this with the sprint cdma shutdown (I believe that's what they...

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Connected Services going away in December 2022

Anyone get the email this morning saying Genesis Connected Services is being discontinued this December due to Verizon dropping 3g network coverage? Guess I'll start exploring remote start options. I will miss the monthly vehicle reports though.

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Is Connected Services going away?

The user manual says it uses 3G technology that is expectedly to stop working in 2022. I know I would miss the Google search function. If this is true I’m glad I leased this one.

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[surprisinguy]

Thanks. Is there a solution?

Nope, 2015 model = no bueno

 

[technocrat]

Recently bought a 2016 V8 Ultimate(Canadian so with HRAC). Love the car so far but there are some minor annoyances

1. Seat heating is not synched with climate control, my 2015 TLX had it and it was really nice specially when starting the car remotely, atleast heated steering seems to have some memory as it stays on after a restart.
2. No Driver 1 and Driver 2 key system, was very surprised to see that all the memory functions are not synched to your key and have to be manually selected. All of my other cars have had it like that.
3. The Radio interface(FM/AM) while nice has like one row for displaying channel and song information, such a waste of that big screen
4. The trunk release on remote does not close the trunk, very strange.
5. Not a dislike but was surprised to not find a capless fuel filler in a 2016 car.

 

[Fred124]

Exactly my thought on it. The 2015 Genesis 5.0 Ultimate does have some expensive parts that may or may not fail ,however the Lexus GS350 also have parts that could fail as well which could be cheaper or maybe even more expensive like the rear wheel steering system and variable sport steering rack.

Lexus does seem to have an edge for long term reliability and repair cost; but I will have to spend about $6K out of my pocket to get a used one over the Genesis I have now. That same $6k could be used to fix my Genesis if the need arise; plus the $6k does not include any repairs or upkeep that the high mileage Lexus may need.

If I really like the Lexus GS over my Genesis I would make the swap, but I actually do like my Genesis more and I got it the way I like it. So I will just keep it for the time being.

Interesting that you are considering a GS 350 over the Genesis. I actually traded my 2013 GS 350 for my current 5.0 Genesis. Trust and believe, the Lexus GS 350 has its issues as well.
One thing I didn't particularly care for is the Eco mode. The Lexus is very sluggish in Eco mode. The blind spot monitors are known to corrode and go bad. The dealership wanted $3600/$5600 to replace at the Lexus dealership. Overall, the car was decent and mechanically sound. You mentioned performance downgrade coming from a Genesis 5.0... Yep! Especially on the top end.

 

[carguy75]

Interesting that you are considering a GS 350 over the Genesis. I actually traded my 2013 GS 350 for my current 5.0 Genesis. Trust and believe, the Lexus GS 350 has its issues as well.
One thing I didn't particularly care for is the Eco mode. The Lexus is very sluggish in Eco mode. The blind spot monitors are known to corrode and go bad. The dealership wanted $3600/$5600 to replace at the Lexus dealership. Overall, the car was decent and mechanically sound. You mentioned performance downgrade coming from a Genesis 5.0... Yep! Especially on the top end.

I like the Lexus GS models overall. My dream Lexus would be a GS-F sedan with the 5.0 engine, but I would take a more practical GS350 sport model. However, I really like my Genesis 5.0 as is ; so no real need or desire to trade it in for any other car.

You are correct that no car is perfect, but Lexus models seem to be a very dependable option due to having a fairly built-proof drive-train(engine and transmission) that means the Lexus will get me to work even if the blind-spot monitor system fails.

The long term reliability (200k miles or more)of Hyundai latest engines(5.0,3.3T,3.5T,etc) are still very much unknown.

In comparison; Lexus has many engines and transmissions surpassing 200k miles without any major drive-train issues.

 

[inisfree]

Not a joke for those of is with 3G modems in the car. Connected services continues on but many of us will not be able to connect. Many thread here about it.

What kind of connected services? Just wondering.
I found myself using Apple/Google car services and not the Hyundai options. I like the Hyundai maps better than Apple/Google.

 

[inisfree]

Llikes: 5.0 L power, oh yeah
Dislikes: Driver seat. Not that comfy. Especially compared to the 2012 4.6L front seat that was as comfy as my recliner. I drove long trips and it was great. The leather was defiantly higher quality in 2012 also, but may be because I had top trim. My 5.0 is not top (top = Ultimate?)
Anyway I'd like to get a new one soon(ish) but man, prices are crazy!!!

 

[EdP]

What kind of connected services? Just wondering.
I found myself using Apple/Google car services and not the Hyundai options. I like the Hyundai maps better than Apple/Google.

Navigation will work, but not remote start, lock, etc.

 

[Alfer]

Adding another dislike to my 2015 3.8 AWD list.

Last night while driving home after dark, I noticed that the top 3rd brake light was reflecting really brightly in the rear window so I couldn't really see well out the back window. I swear it has never been that way but maybe I just didn't notice it??

I went into the back seat and noticed that the black trim under the light was falling off and I could feel all the sticky tape. So my guess is whatever was shielding the light from shining all over my rear window has disintegrated and is failing.

Man this first gen car is full of gremlins now.

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[surprisinguy]

This has been an issue with several ppl on here. Myself included. Replacing the whole rear light part is ~$200 or so. I "fixed" mine with black gorilla duck tape.

 

[inisfree]

My trunk release (outside) cover rotted away. Now just have a little silver tab need to touch. Its actually easier but probably open to weather and possible unexpected openings. Wonder how much that would cost to replace as it may need camera replacement too? Any ideas?

 

[5.0KDM]

My trunk release (outside) cover rotted away. Now just have a little silver tab need to touch. Its actually easier but probably open to weather and possible unexpected openings. Wonder how much that would cost to replace as it may need camera replacement too? Any ideas?

2015 Genesis sedan trunk latch cover

The rubber trunk latch cover has split. Does anyone have experience with replacing this part, Hyundai 81248-B1000 ? The part is available but is it something a DIYer can replace? Would a shop manual help? Thanks in advance!

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[skipgen]

My trunk release (outside) cover rotted away. Now just have a little silver tab need to touch. Its actually easier but probably open to weather and possible unexpected openings. Wonder how much that would cost to replace as it may need camera replacement too? Any ideas?

My outer trunk release cover was fine until I took a trip to West Texas (desert) - then it promptly disintergrated w/ in 2 days.

 

[Kyser_Soze]

No Driver 1 and Driver 2 key system, was very surprised to see that all the memory functions are not synched to your key and have to be manually selected. All of my other cars have had it like that.

You're using the key differently than I use it. It's a proximity key, so I don't take it out of my pocket. I just walk up to the car and it senses the key is near so I place my hand on the door handle to open it and press the unlock button right before my hand pulls the handle open, in one smooth motion. I don't remove the key from my pocket to start the car and when I exit, I press the lock button as I'm shutting the door. So there is no fumbling for the key and no putting it back in my pocket because it just stays there. If I have passengers, I press the door handle button twice to unlock all doors. The keys are equal, so of course they wouldn't change seating. You would need a key 1 and a key 2. But I would rather have a proximity key because it's like my car knows me. My wife has her own car and rarely drives my car anyway.

 

[joegr]

You're using the key differently than I use it. It's a proximity key, so I don't take it out of my pocket. I just walk up to the car and it senses the key is near so I place my hand on the door handle to open it and press the unlock button right before my hand pulls the handle open, in one smooth motion. I don't remove the key from my pocket to start the car and when I exit, I press the lock button as I'm shutting the door. So there is no fumbling for the key and no putting it back in my pocket because it just stays there. If I have passengers, I press the door handle button twice to unlock all doors. The keys are equal, so of course they wouldn't change seating. You would need a key 1 and a key 2. But I would rather have a proximity key because it's like my car knows me. My wife has her own car and rarely drives my car anyway.

I don't understand why you think that the proximity key can't be used just like this and still cause the car to change seating and such depending on which smart key is present. Other brands do this without issue. Please note that the smart keys are all unique. They all have their own serial number. The car is programmed to accept the two different serial numbers that your two smart keys have. It does know which key is there, you can verify that with the Hyundai/Genesis scan tool.

 

[technocrat]

You're using the key differently than I use it. It's a proximity key, so I don't take it out of my pocket. I just walk up to the car and it senses the key is near so I place my hand on the door handle to open it and press the unlock button right before my hand pulls the handle open, in one smooth motion. I don't remove the key from my pocket to start the car and when I exit, I press the lock button as I'm shutting the door. So there is no fumbling for the key and no putting it back in my pocket because it just stays there. If I have passengers, I press the door handle button twice to unlock all doors. The keys are equal, so of course they wouldn't change seating. You would need a key 1 and a key 2. But I would rather have a proximity key because it's like my car knows me. My wife has her own car and rarely drives my car anyway.

I dont take mine out of pocket either A car with proximity keys can have 2 separate driver keys as well, my TLX had it and was convenient whenever my wife would drive it (if her car was in service or more convenient to use, our old place had back to back parking, thats not the case anymore so she now rarely drives my car LoL).

It's not a deal breaker was just surprised to see that a 'Luxury' brand would not have this as most do. Also by manual selection I didn't mean fumbling with the keys LOL I meant using the memory button on the door

 

[carguy75]

I have a new major dislike(or a few) of the 2015 Genesis 5.0. After owning my 2015 Genesis since 2018(bought used with about 40k miles); I never had to repair any major component until recently at 90k miles. I ended up needing to repair my Genesis due to an possible error in the service manual that caused me to damage my front timing cover for a simple oil pressure sensor change. The cause is from incorrect data in the service manual that seems to state too much torque which cracked the timing cover. Not good since a new timing cover is an expensive fix. That is my first dislike. Well, it also turns out that the timing cover is a back ordered part and expensive($500-600); which is way too much for a cast aluminum part without any gaskets or seals included.

My next dislike; expensive parts that are in Mercedes and BMW territory. I bought a Hyundai; not a German luxury car, but the parts for the 5.0 Genesis are just as expensive and as elusive.

My third dislike; is that there is not much repair data on the 5.0 engine available outside of the Hyundai service manual(which has some errors). Which make owning a 5.0 Genesis a risky car to own out of warranty unless you are willing to spend a lot of money at a dealership to address issues that occur with high mileage engines such as valve and timing cover leaks among other common age related issues. A mistake while working on this engine can be costly while not even being able to buy the part you need even if you can fix it yourself.

Buyer beware if the 5.0 Genesis has high mileage and is out of warranty. It will cost as much as a used Mercedes to repair at a Hyundai dealership. DIY owners will have problems buying parts and finding accurate repair data on the 5.0 engine.

The 3.8 V6 seems to be the better option as an easier to maintain used Genesis. The 3.8 engine has more repair information online and the parts are much cheaper than the 5.0 parts while being more readily available.

 

[skipgen]

I hate that the gears in the power folding mirrors are apparently made from Hot Garbage....

 

[Andyj]

hot plastic garbage.