2015 Hyundai Genesis Sedan Spy Photos

[dreamofgenesis]

Are you talking about (All-new) 15' Genesis or 14' Genesis which is an update of the current genesis?

 

[ksoze]

Are you talking about (All-new) 15' Genesis or 14' Genesis which is an update of the current genesis?

Who is "you" here. Lot's of conversations in this thread. A reference or quote would help.

Also the 2014 is hardly an update of the 2013 - the addition of a heated steering wheel on the R-Spec is about it.

 

[Seattle Genesis]

Who is "you" here. Lot's of conversations in this thread. A reference or quote would help.

Also the 2014 is hardly an update of the 2013 - the addition of a heated steering wheel on the R-Spec is about it.

There is a 2014 Genesis sedan at my local dealer. i did notice the interior seat color was saddle brown with the shinny plastic wood on the dash (never cared for that). I dont remember that combo on 2012's and 13's. I just may have missed it.

I would think they would add just a few more options just to make it more of a bargain to buy.

 

[Mark_888]

I just noticed that in the interior photo. Not a clear image however the interior looked very blah in the shifter area without the knob. Must be a base model car?

In the US models of Genesis for 2009-2014, only the Tech Package has the DIS nob. Tech Package is standard on the R-Spec and optional on the V6. I believe that on the 2009 V8, Tech Package was optional, but was later made standard for that engine.

 

[Ruissimo]

I suspect to keep the price below the targeted competitors here. In order to compete against the cachet of german sedans, the price and warranty become major weapons. If the price gets too close to those cars, buying decisions get a little more tricky.

Exactly this. The Genesis is a premium sedan in the KDM market, and costs anywhere from $12k to $19k MORE than the equivalent HMA model. They can do that in Korea... and people will pay it.

To keep costs down, some of these features are dropped. The one I cared about the most was in fact the headlight assembly. I wouldn't get TOO attached to the ones you've been seeing online - I can almost guarantee the "halos" won't make it to our version here in the US.

We shall see.

 

[DRS]

Uhmm... Someone should figure out how to do a reverse gray market with that kind of price difference. Must be some kind of VAT. And they charge huge tariffs for Achtung and other cars to enter the country.

 

[Ruissimo]

Uhmm... Someone should figure out how to do a reverse gray market with that kind of price difference. Must be some kind of VAT. And they charge huge tariffs for Achtung and other cars to enter the country.

I got as far as getting in contact with a Korean dealer willing to ship to a US location.

However, I didn't wanna get into the Art Vandeley, Importer/Exporter business for everyone, and it fizzled.

 

[Mark_888]

Uhmm... Someone should figure out how to do a reverse gray market with that kind of price difference. Must be some kind of VAT. And they charge huge tariffs for Achtung and other cars to enter the country.

There were people doing that in 2009 when the difference was about $17K. There is an old thread in this forum somewhere, I think with a link to new article about it (although link may be stale by now).

 

[dreamofgenesis]

I read (from a Korean Owners Website) that New Genesis 15 is coming to the states in February. It'll be May in Europe. I hope it means it'll be sold.

http://www.youtube.com/embed/tlMxbn-rsPo

http://serviceapi.nmv.naver.com/fla...78e7366466fb526a2c868b1e&width=720&height=438

http://serviceapi.nmv.naver.com/fla...453ac90c49a033dae5627d7e&width=720&height=438

 

[037]

I read (from a Korean Owners Website) that New Genesis 15 is coming to the states in February. It'll be May in Europe. I hope it means it'll be sold.

http://www.youtube.com/embed/tlMxbn-rsPo

http://serviceapi.nmv.naver.com/fla...78e7366466fb526a2c868b1e&width=720&height=438

http://serviceapi.nmv.naver.com/fla...453ac90c49a033dae5627d7e&width=720&height=438

I think that's a bit optimistic, wouldn't make sense to release the 2014 versions at all. I am thinking the date is going to be more like end of June/July 2014 like they did when 2012's came out.

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[dreamofgenesis]

I think that's a bit optimistic, wouldn't make sense to release the 2014 versions at all. I am thinking the date is going to be more like end of June/July 2014 like they did when 2012's came out.

I asked him(a clubmaster) what it meant. He said "expected exporting date".
When did Cadenza come out last year in KIA? Maybe similiar timeline?

 

[037]

I asked him(a clubmaster) what it meant. He said "expected exporting date".
When did Cadenza come out last year in KIA? Maybe similiar timeline?

I would say similar timeline to K900 as they are based on the same platform.

And exporting date doesn't mean they'll actually sell them, like Acura had RLX on display for some time before they actually allowed people to buy one.

 

[dreamofgenesis]

I would say similar timeline to K900 as they are based on the same platform.

And exporting date doesn't mean they'll actually sell them, like Acura had RLX on display for some time before they actually allowed people to buy one.

Right, that's what I meant. At least we assume the time that genesis hit the port.

 

[italiabrain]

I would say similar timeline to K900 as they are based on the same platform.

And exporting date doesn't mean they'll actually sell them, like Acura had RLX on display for some time before they actually allowed people to buy one.

I don't see Hyundai having the new Genesis sitting in showrooms for an extended time without being for sale. The new RLX is a disaster IMO. The only version available is still front wheel drive as far as I've seen and the base FWD V6 is in Genesis V8 (pre-incentive) price range, as well as being above the fully-loaded AWD TL-SH price range.

As for the 2014 model, I don't know how such decisions are made. I think February is pretty optimistic also for 2015 delivery, but at the same time would there be 2013 inventory to carry over into February?

On the other hand I'm not sure that spending huge amounts of money on Superbowl ads would make much sense if the car wasn't going to be available until the end of June.

 

[alsvt]

Looking at the pics and videos to me it looks like a infiniti Q or M sedan more than anything else

 

[Mark_888]

I don't see Hyundai having the new Genesis sitting in showrooms for an extended time without being for sale. The new RLX is a disaster IMO. The only version available is still front wheel drive as far as I've seen and the base FWD V6 is in Genesis V8 (pre-incentive) price range, as well as being above the fully-loaded AWD TL-SH price range.

As for the 2014 model, I don't know how such decisions are made. I think February is pretty optimistic also for 2015 delivery, but at the same time would there be 2013 inventory to carry over into February?

On the other hand I'm not sure that spending huge amounts of money on Superbowl ads would make much sense if the car wasn't going to be available until the end of June.

I was talking to a Hyundai dealer recently who thinks the 2015 Genesis sedan "may" be available in May, but I would not count on any earlier than that, and maybe later. The 2014 is available now (although some dealers may not have them in stock and probably still have plenty of 2013's to sell).

Acura AWD RLX is coming fairly soon, and has some interesting features according to this Car and Driver blog:

When Acura first introduced the 2014 RLX sedan as its replacement for the RL, the brand only released the front-wheel-drive version, promising that a sportier all-wheel-drive model was on its way. That promise has finally been fulfilled at the 2013 L.A. auto show, where Acura is debuting the Sport Hybrid Super-Handling All-Wheel Drive–equipped RLX. It also released more info on the car, which is due to go on sale this spring.

Okay, so that name is a bit of a mouthful, but the gear that comes along with it is just as complex. As we’ve previously reported after driving a Sport Hybrid SH-AWD–equipped Honda prototype, the RLX gets a trio of electric motors—two on the rear axle and one integrated into the 3.5-liter V-6’s seven-speed dual-clutch automatic transmission—versus the front-drive RLX’s solitary V-6 and six-speed automatic. Total system power stands at around 370 horsepower (final figures are forthcoming), with the V-6 contributing 310 ponies, the front electric motor providing 47 horsepower, and each rear motor contributes 36 more. Each rear wheel is powered by a dedicated electric motor, and the RLX’s brain can distribute torque between the two for rear-axle torque vectoring. Of course, on the hybrid side of things, the front motor recuperates braking energy to recharge the RLX’s lithium-ion battery, and an engine stop-start system minimizes fuel use at stops.

While Acura claims the RLX’s Sport Hybrid setup will be capable of 0-to-60-mph sprints “comparable with competitors’ V-8–powered machines,” perhaps the car’s most important performance measurement has to do with fuel economy. The regular, front-drive RLX is EPA-rated for 20 mpg in the city and 31 on the highway; Acura has revealed that the RLX Sport Hybrid musters an impressive 28/32 mpg. Although the hybrid’s highway efficiency isn’t that much higher than the front-drive RLX’s, the city figure is a whopping 8 mpg better. That’s huge, and all the more impressive given the added weight of the electric motors and battery.

Aside from better urban fuel economy, the RLX Sport Hybrid SH-AWD model also gets Acura’s first electronic push-button gear selector and a new head-up display. The latter projects hybrid-system information, navigation instructions, trip functions, and alerts from the driver-assistance systems onto the windshield ahead of the driver. Like the regular RLX, the Sport Hybrid SH-AWD gets Acura’s Jewel Eye LED headlights, two giant instrument panel displays, and a host of safety technologies.

Final pricing has yet to be announced, but figure on the RLX Sport Hybrid requiring a couple-thousand-dollar premium over the front-drive RLX. One thing’s for sure: We’re looking forward to driving this unique sedan, especially given the similarities between its powertrain and the running gear in the upcoming NSX.
http://blog.caranddriver.com/2014-a...ee-electric-motors-32-mpg-2013-l-a-auto-show/
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[037]

I was talking to a Hyundai dealer recently who thinks the 2015 Genesis sedan "may" be available in May, but I would not count on any earlier than that, and maybe later. The 2014 is available now (although some dealers may not have them in stock and probably still have plenty of 2013's to sell).

Acura AWD RLX is coming fairly soon, and has some interesting features according to this Car and Driver blog:

When Acura first introduced the 2014 RLX sedan as its replacement for the RL, the brand only released the front-wheel-drive version, promising that a sportier all-wheel-drive model was on its way. That promise has finally been fulfilled at the 2013 L.A. auto show, where Acura is debuting the Sport Hybrid Super-Handling All-Wheel Drive–equipped RLX. It also released more info on the car, which is due to go on sale this spring.

Okay, so that name is a bit of a mouthful, but the gear that comes along with it is just as complex. As we’ve previously reported after driving a Sport Hybrid SH-AWD–equipped Honda prototype, the RLX gets a trio of electric motors—two on the rear axle and one integrated into the 3.5-liter V-6’s seven-speed dual-clutch automatic transmission—versus the front-drive RLX’s solitary V-6 and six-speed automatic. Total system power stands at around 370 horsepower (final figures are forthcoming), with the V-6 contributing 310 ponies, the front electric motor providing 47 horsepower, and each rear motor contributes 36 more. Each rear wheel is powered by a dedicated electric motor, and the RLX’s brain can distribute torque between the two for rear-axle torque vectoring. Of course, on the hybrid side of things, the front motor recuperates braking energy to recharge the RLX’s lithium-ion battery, and an engine stop-start system minimizes fuel use at stops.

While Acura claims the RLX’s Sport Hybrid setup will be capable of 0-to-60-mph sprints “comparable with competitors’ V-8–powered machines,” perhaps the car’s most important performance measurement has to do with fuel economy. The regular, front-drive RLX is EPA-rated for 20 mpg in the city and 31 on the highway; Acura has revealed that the RLX Sport Hybrid musters an impressive 28/32 mpg. Although the hybrid’s highway efficiency isn’t that much higher than the front-drive RLX’s, the city figure is a whopping 8 mpg better. That’s huge, and all the more impressive given the added weight of the electric motors and battery.

Aside from better urban fuel economy, the RLX Sport Hybrid SH-AWD model also gets Acura’s first electronic push-button gear selector and a new head-up display. The latter projects hybrid-system information, navigation instructions, trip functions, and alerts from the driver-assistance systems onto the windshield ahead of the driver. Like the regular RLX, the Sport Hybrid SH-AWD gets Acura’s Jewel Eye LED headlights, two giant instrument panel displays, and a host of safety technologies.

Final pricing has yet to be announced, but figure on the RLX Sport Hybrid requiring a couple-thousand-dollar premium over the front-drive RLX. One thing’s for sure: We’re looking forward to driving this unique sedan, especially given the similarities between its powertrain and the running gear in the upcoming NSX.
http://blog.caranddriver.com/2014-a...ee-electric-motors-32-mpg-2013-l-a-auto-show/
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biggest problem for RLX will be a price starting at $60 and going up to almost $70. They aren't competing directly with the Genesis.

As a previous Acura RL owner, I am curious to see how the e-awd system handles. And from prior history, discounts of 10k off msrp aren't unheard of less than a year after release, just look at the regular RLX @ truecar.

 

[Mark_888]

biggest problem for RLX will be a price starting at $60 and going up to almost $70. They aren't competing directly with the Genesis.

As a previous Acura RL owner, I am curious to see how the e-awd system handles. And from prior history, discounts of 10k off msrp aren't unheard of less than a year after release, just look at the regular RLX @ truecar.

I believe that even the regular RWD RLX has 4 wheel steering (rear wheels turn up to 1.5 degrees) to assist with handling.

I don't know of any cars that can compete with Genesis based on price.

 

[Seattle Genesis]

I'm sure we will see a huge price increase in the 15 MY if they bring all the options currently on the KDM models. They need to compete better with what they set out to compete with. Such as the RLX, MB, Audi's, etc... Our current Genesis really don't compete with them. They don't have all the goody options the others do. Don't get me wrong. It's an outstanding car for the price and I would most likely get into my 3rd Genesis in the 15 MY. I just hope if they do carry over the KDM options it's not out of my price point to afford it.

 

[DominicJE]

I won't be surprised if they do raise the price a lot, how do we expect all these new goodies that we often complained about not having without increasing the price?

If new goodies are added that would be very nice features to have (HUD, etc) then I don't mind the price increase if that is what's needed to get them included on this car.